All of this wanting to pay less for less..

Well of course men want to pay more for less...what are we stupid? Why the long discussion smh. Charge you rate and move on

Go Royals Originally Posted by Tsmokies

Oh yes, you're right.. Sorry to interrupt the oh so sophisticated conversation with something so trivial..........

Where do you work and who is your boss? Can I let him know that he can pick and choose what is important to him and less work for you and he can pay you accordingly?
Thanks. I'm sure he will appreciate it.

P.s. You should re read your reply. It's not a good representation of trying to defend that you're not stupid.

Quit comparing this business to other businesses they are nothing alike for many reasons Originally Posted by Jules Jaguar

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Smartest post of the thread.

We are dealing here with women that is sharing their most intimate self with a comllete stanger and taking huge risks at the same time. There absolutely no comparison to plumbers or restaurants.

While normal market rules still apply,any man worth his weight in salt should understand and be thankfull for the ladies to share that with us. And shoukld also understand why it is offensive to them the haggling.

Edit: skrry for all the typos. Using a phone.

^^^^^^^
Smartest post of the thread.

We are dealing here with women that is sharing their most intimate self with a comllete stanger and taking huge risks at the same time. There absolutely no comparison to plumbers or restaurants.

While normal market rules still apply,any man worth his weight in salt should understand and be thankfull for the ladies to share that with us. And shoukld also understand why it is offensive to them the haggling.

Edit: skrry for all the typos. Using a phone. Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

Finally a man that gets it! Thank you

Some providers will say yes and some will say no. Whatever the middle ground is, is up to the two adults. It's a part of the business Originally Posted by ketchmm

That's so true, I sent a few pms last week about short stay rates, I got turned down by a few, some didn't respond but some did and found a provider that came through for me and she was great, probably the best I've had in a while.

These are all business transactions so nobody should get butt hurt or take anything personal when asked about rates.

Yes, I apologize. Let's go back to talking about NBA, or getting scammed by a backpage girl... So sorry for some adult feedback on an escort board, what on earth was I thinking?? Originally Posted by Alyssa Marie

I love it when I don't have to read between the lines. There has been some very direct, borderline poignant straight talk from women in this thread, and aside from some usual ass-kissing and some flat-out missed the fucking point makes me embarrassed to be male guys who should keep their commerce is commerce dollars for snatch discussions somewhere else, it has been informative and eye opening.

I have caught two timeless thoughts in here while letting the mud run through the holes in the net. What women think is intimacy, men do not. And whether it is commercial or otherwise, communication during sexual intimacy shouldn't be a deal breaker. If you don't like the way some guy's eating your pussy, fucking let him know, and if he's not man enough to listen to you and your body through his ego, tough shit what he thinks. Life is too short for bad intimacy, no matter how you "come" by it. Sending a man out the door believing his shit skills just made your day is wrong. Make him a lover, and make his next one glad he met you, whether he asks you or not. It'll make us all look better.

Exactly...I'm not one for the Samo hot girl vizit. I much prefer the lady take charge. I have no ego here. It's eAsy to tell with a meet n greet if you click or not....I have enough to do in my RW...I want good fun bossy playtime.

It may not work for everybody

And bty Alyssa in Md...I was being stupid in my last post silly butt
So charge your rate an move on....again

There are many girls out there with many different models, so trying to figure out what is what is damn near impossible on this board or any other. First time clients have no idea who they are dealing, pimps, boyfriends, husbands "managers" etc is dangerous for us. We (clients)can never really be sure who is waiting on the other side of the door regardless of the reputation of the provider...such is the nature of the beast. I am more careful, more serious about investigating who I see...even in my careful investigation I have been severely blindsided by providers who were "independant", "safe" and "drama free" and paid a price. This is part of the strange game we play.

I wonder if girls and guys are getting stuck in a matter of semantics. Negotiating and investigating are very different concepts but maybe they are being taking as synonyms. I investigate alot...I never negotiate because a girl can charge whatever they want...more power to you!

However because of Backpage, eccie and the new more cryptic p411 its harder to know what my money is actually getting. I have no idea how guys play in the backpage model where three quarters of the girls don't even tell you how much or what it is that they offer. I appreciate Alyssa and Jules and their point of view, but the hobby world is murky in its nature and indeed has to be. So questions are bound to occur and should be expected. But since the hobby is an illegal undertaking discretion and understanding should go both ways.

The hobby is risky for all involved. If we all want to play nice with each other...treat each other with the proper respect.

I don't mean the legal jargon of it..
This discussion of a la carte came up the other week.. With references to brothels..

When it comes to independents we can all pick and choose our rates. And sure, we can all pick and choose if we want to be a la carte. I guess I just prefer to be the buffet and I don't understand why someone would want to go through the hassle of making it anything less.

And, ummm... I enjoy sex. Sorry to break it to ya. There are just as many men who use relationship activities (sex, merging accounts, putting a ring on it) as there are women. It doesn't only go one way. I hate the commitment side of things. I love the intimacy side of things. We all have seratonin and when it starts to flow, you can't stop it! Originally Posted by Alyssa Marie

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Finally a man that gets it! Thank you Originally Posted by Jules Jaguar

+1

Look this is a Bp with forums & reviews the same guys that are on here looking for providers. Are on Bp, CL, moco space " that speaks for it self". Then you got sorry but you lost your hobby stamp when you go down the south Dallas start picking up hoes.. You just a trick then. And then got the nerve write that shit up.. So if anything you are right Eccie is not above backpage, at the end of the day it's just smoke and mirrors, it's modern day discrete tricked. Trust and believe if they can get the same girl for half the cost regardless of how many good reviews you got they going to take there chances with the other girl. the quality of hobbyist have gone down too. Many of the. Jumping on p411 to avoid the bs.

My corner. Special $20 for head $40 for around the world..
Watch somebody going pm me.

So, I'm trying to understand this Alyssa. Not trying to bust your femballs or anything.
We should contribute $300. for one hour of time whether we spend it hugging, kissing, a HJ, or a full blown PSE fukfest. That makes no sense but it's your perogative.

Some days I feel like GFE, some days PSE, some days just a HJ and great conversation, some days...my load swallowed, some days just a good ol fashioned massage and a happy ending. Every day is a different day....and moods change. But we should be charged the same amount regardless? So I should pay my electrician $1000. whether he installs a ceiling fan, or replaces the breaker box and while house rewire? C'mon!

No wonder I love all my geisha experience Asian providers, my awesome ATF latinas, and Relax where you can get a massage, SS and CIM for 160 roses. With my 300-400 ATF's, you know you're barely walking out without being ravaged and everything is available....and even then sometimes GFE ++ is a factor.

PS- get out of that shithole Baltimore before it totally ruins your outlook. Trust me....I know....I'm from there originally. Only thing that would solve Baltimores issues is the pointed end of a nuke. After being in Vegas, then Dallas, why racist Baltimore? I hear Dearborn Michigan is nice this time of year.

Another thing about rates is, We the clients get to choose who is worth the donation amount we are willing to pay, The way some guys see it, Why pay $300hr for a provider that looks a certain way when we have the same option for a $100? posting on eccie doesn't make you more valuable. As a provider when you need a product or service, do you shop around or say F-it, ill pay the much higher price?

I will pay a premium or going rate for something I cant find for a lower rate or cant get in the rw for free, This is a competitive business, You women are competing with 700+ showcase ladies + new eager talent coming daily on eccie and 100s of bp providers, moco hoes, craigslist talent, sw cum slurping hoes, UTR's, sugar babies and sluts who give away for free

if you're fat, don't expect the same rate as the provider who takes care of her body, if your old, don't expect the same rate as the younger provider, If you're ugly, don't expect the rate of the pretty provider, if you're a bitch on the forum who would want to see you in the first place?

I have said before, this hobby is for everybody and if you ladies got something going that works, more power to you BUT don't knock what works for others.

Another thing about rates is, We the clients get to choose who is worth the donation amount we are willing to pay. Originally Posted by biglatinmale

Exactly and some guys actually prefer what you don't like.

if you're fat, don't expect the same rate as the provider who takes care of her body, if your old, don't expect the same rate as the younger provider, If you're ugly, don't expect the rate of the pretty provider, if you're a bitch on the forum who would want to see you in the first place? Originally Posted by biglatinmale

I am what some would call "OLD", I have a little meat on my bones and I EXPECT, ASK FOR and RECEIVE my, what some call "too high for an old lady" rate. Why? Because I don't have to be a Perfect 10 or a 20yr old.. to treat guys how they deserve to be treated.
If someone simply feels like paying a 44 yr old woman my rate is too much, more power to them. They do not have to contact me.... I am more than sure that they are doing me a favor. WALDT

I have said before, this hobby is for everybody and if you ladies got something going that works, more power to you BUT don't knock what works for others. Originally Posted by biglatinmale

I think you are "knocking" a little yourself. :wink:


Back on topic...Don't haggle, it's not sexy.

Congrats RF on finding men that will pay a 44yr old for a good time, the hobby has something for everyone.

Congrats RF on finding men that will pay a 44yr old for a good time, the hobby has something for everyone. Originally Posted by biglatinmale

Wait for it.....
Wait for it.....