government shuts down

...Yet Dems are holding Americans hostage and admitting they're doing it to try to get $1.5 trillion for illegals and other garbage. And refuse to do any real reform to health care costs. Originally Posted by Lantern2814

While I suspect there are some that would prefer to utilize the USDA for such things, there is a new government website dedicated to illegal aliens on Medicade. I believe they refer to them as criminals.

Imma do a bit of random reassembly, to build a more congruent timeline.
While it may seem to start out off topic, it finishes on point - IMMHO.. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

kk

...You may remember the O'Bama-nation 2008 campaign trail refrain to Joe the Plumber: "And I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody". Joe was not a "concentrated wealth" kinda guy. He was a plumber wanting to purchase a business for $250K. ... Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

keep going.

... Notwithstanding the glaring denials that Trump won 2024, perhaps you recall the O'Bama-nation's phrase right after inauguration in 2009: "Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won". Ironically enough, he was also reported to have said: "So I think on that one I trump you". .. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Where do you see me acting like a maggie claiming fraud, etc. on 2024? You don't "trump" me. But you act like a senile Trump stating such.

...It was actually HillaryCare from the early 1990s, created in secret and cut-n-pasted into a deleted Veterans health bill to become the ACA on March 23, 2010. It was an abortion then and has remained an albatross since.

As you may recall, he received a devastating "shellacking" for it in that same year at the November 3, 2010 midterm elections. To his credit and far different than today's Democrats, he stated: "I'm not recommending for every future President that they take a shellacking like I did last night," and admitted he had been "humbled" by the results.

In other words, he owned it and attempted to move on. Although, in September, 2013 he was faced with his own 2 month long shutdown and guess what it was about. He wanted even more of Other Peoples Money, to pretty-up his ugly baby, i.e. ACA.

In fact, he was rather peeved about it. How dare they! He was slamming shutdowns as “irresponsible” and accusing Republicans of trying to "blackmail a president”... You can view the 60 second subtitled pontification here. I dunno, maybe that's just how he does open dialog and all. ... Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Hmmm. Than why are y'all maggies in an uproar since you call it Hillary Care? Better than what y'all still aren't presenting for a comprehensive healthcare plan.

... Interesting transference and ducking of responsibility. Let's see how that plays out. Let us recollect pResident AutoPen's American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 initially provided enhanced subsidies for the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplaces for the 2021 and 2022 plan years. How? You guessed it: More of Other People's Money.

This was followed up with pResident AutoPen's Inflation Reduction Act of 2022, which extended enhanced premium tax credits (PTCs) for three additional years, covering plan years 2023 through 2025. How? You, know. The thing... More of Other People's Money. Come on man!

So here we are. You have a 15 year old, fugly baby, from day 1, that has morphed into an albatross around your own neck, which you've continuously shoveled endless streams of; go ahead, you can tells us, we already know: More of Other People's Money and it's actually uglier than the day it was born.

Transference, ducking responsibilities, even throwing tons-o Other People's money at it has not fixed a ding-danged thing. But now it's all the Republican's fault. That's your whole shutdown argument?!? And whatever happens, Republicans have to fix it this very second, even after 15 years of your expensive and feeble minded attempts, or we shut the government down STAT, because we are totally willing to "leverage" the bejesus outta the most vulnerable people we have at hand!

Either that or we deleverage the most vulnerable, keep planes from falling out of the sky, put on our big boy pants and work for We the People, which in all irony is the purpose of a CR, much as I dislike them.

Going with the we ain't never had the power to do nut'n 'bout nut'n it in all those 15 years and it's all yous guy's fault, just ain't gonna cut it. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Donny of the 1600+ autopen that he used but admits doesn't know the people you talking about? Why you keep bringing up that senile blight that by y'all maggies admission is too old to be in office? I don't blame him for not having a plan. But all the spineless sheeple that do his bidding and not address the will of their constituents. Spin how you like. But show us how y'all maggies care about your constituents and address the legislation that you have not done anything to replace the obamacare that those same people would not let the maggies on the Hill repeal.

Spin it how you will. But this is 'Merica and we are all about What Have You Done For Me Today? And today, it is that all the maggies on ACA are getting the shaft. And they know who is doing it.

Looks like Democrats will block the reopening of the Federal Government for the 15th time and yet they are the same ones who put the blame on President Trump and the GOP for the shutdown, for the SNAP, for the FAA Flights 10% reductions, etc etc


https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/s...rnment-funding

No negotiation. My buddy, John Michael Johnson, said a vote on a settlement of the subsidies won’t happen in the house. So there’s no need to reopen the govt until the entire piece of legislation is completed and passed out of the senate. A CR that doesn’t address those issues would serve no purpose and the govt would close again in 7 weeks.

... isn't a few repubs absent from DC? If they were so hot to open goverment you'd think they be there *AND* open to communicating.

Typical my way or the highway maggies. Even the court says as much in that they aren't acting in good faith.

Let the maggies keep screeching. Once their toddler temper tantrum cools, maybe just maybe they will show up and have a dialog.

...or wake up from their malaise and realize the true consequences of doing Fearless Leaders bidding while they've been ignoring the voters.

...Transference, ducking responsibilities, even throwing tons-o Other People's money at it has not fixed a ding-danged thing. But now it's all the Republican's fault. That's your whole shutdown argument?!?... Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Schmuck Shumer has a new, ground breaking and fresh idea to end the government shutdown that he is responsible for.
Take a wild guess...

Did you guess Borrowing More of Other People's Money to keep the floundering albatross afloat??

After Holding Americans Hostage for 38 Days, Schumer Unveils New, INSANE Plan to End Shutdown on Senate Floor

Friday is day 38 of the Schumer Shutdown.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and the Democrats previously shut down the government because they want to give illegal aliens taxpayer-funded healthcare.

After failing to reopen the government more than a dozen times, Schumer on Friday proposed a new plan to end the shutdown.

Senate Democrats are now proposing a one-year extension of Obamacare – Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies, which are set to expire soon...

I find no mention of Schmuky dropping healthcare for citizens of other countries either.


You may recall, the sunsetting of subsidies after subsidies was the Demonicrat's doing to prop up their 15+ year old fugly baby. He may have forgotten to shed a tear for the currently staving citizens of this country, as well as the citizens, aka interlopers, but you can still call them illegal aliens, from ~160 other countries.

Them democrats senators should had done this 40 days ago


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen...ing-government


also if a deal is reached and the government reopens, this deal will still be only good for funding the government until January 26th.

So in January, they will have to do it all over again and we might see another shutdown

I have a solution on how to avoid all this in the future. Whenever the government is shutdown or operating without a full year of passed funding:


everyone in Congress do not get paid, do not get their $500 martini lunches paid by the taxpayers, do not get their private jets and they fancy hotels and homes and townhouses and condos (when they are in Washington DC, they have to sleep somewhere), their limousine service, their protection (not all of them get it) and any other perks they enjoy and take for granted at the expense of the hard working American taxpayer.

Democrats unwittingly admit the shutdown was always the fault of the democrats by having democrats change their votes and end the shutdown.

I like this headline


Democrats fold on biggest government shutdown demand


https://www.axios.com/2025/11/10/gov...x-credits-vote

That's the thing about cheap suits, they fold easily enough.
Leastwise, after you've stiffed the peasants first.

Democrats Finally Caved and Lost Everything in the Shutdown Showdown

Democrats finally caved.

After weeks of posturing, sound bites, and hashtags, Senate Democrats folded like a cheap lawn chair. The government will reopen after a handful of Democrats finally agreed to vote with Republicans to end the shutdown—without giving Chuck Schumer and his caucus anything close to a win.

This is what capitulation looks like, and the left knows it.

The deal is simple. Schumer’s caucus agreed to advance a package of spending bills that will reopen the government and extend funding through January.

That’s it.

No sweeping policy concessions, no big wins tucked into the fine print, no “historic framework” or “moral victory.” Just a basic continuing resolution, dressed up with some boilerplate back pay for furloughed workers and funding for food assistance through next fall. In other words, exactly what Republicans had put on the table before the Democrats decided to make a scene.

This shutdown began because Schumer thought he could strongarm the GOP into extending Obamacare subsidies that were set to expire and repealing Medicaid reforms that closed a loophole handing out free healthcare to illegal immigrants. President Trump and Republican leaders had already said they planned to address those subsidies separately, aiming to rein them in and curb abuse. But Schumer wanted drama. He shut down the government over it, thinking Republicans would blink.

They didn’t.

After 40 days of a shutdown over a laundry list of demands, Democrats have nothing to show for it. Their only “win” is a vague promise of a future vote on Obamacare subsidies in December—a meaningless gesture that even they know is dead on arrival.

If you want to know how bad this looks for the Democrats, just scroll through social media. The left is in full meltdown. Harry Sisson called the outcome “absolutely pathetic” and accused his party of surrendering to a “wannabe dictator.” Gavin Newsom chimed in with a simple “Pathetic.” Rep. Ro Khanna threw Schumer under the bus, saying he “should be replaced” for failing to protect ObamaCare and rein in healthcare costs.

And then there’s Bernie Sanders. He was furious.

“Tonight, eight Democrats voted with the Republicans to allow them to go forward on this, uh, Continuing Resolution,” Sanders said in a video posted to social media. “And to my mind, this was a very, very bad vote.”

Behind all the drama and doomsaying, the reality is plain: they overplayed their hand and lost...

No matter how MAGA propagandists spin it, this will ever be on them.

I expected a fair modicum of gloating over this, but not by people whose lives were untended by the shutdown and who starved for a month and still have to pay twice the health care premium to get a government benefit.

Yuk it up,boys. Trumpism lost this one.

I suppose now it’s business as usual? Like it never happened, right?

LOLLING!

Nah, LOSING!

Yes, the Dems are indeed losing. They're taking full blame for this shutdown and no amount of gaslighting will change that. The Dems caused all the suffering by refusing to vote on resolutions. Seems some Dem constituents likely had enough and started leaning on their Senators to end this crap.

Yes, the Dems are indeed losing. They're taking full blame for this shutdown and no amount of gaslighting will change that. The Dems caused all the suffering by refusing to vote on resolutions. Seems some Dem constituents likely had enough and started leaning on their Senators to end this crap. Originally Posted by Lantern2814

You’ll note that none of the ones who caved are up for reelection in 2026.

Yes, the Dems are indeed losing. They're taking full blame for this shutdown and no amount of gaslighting will change that. The Dems caused all the suffering by refusing to vote on resolutions. Seems some Dem constituents likely had enough and started leaning on their Senators to end this crap. Originally Posted by Lantern2814

This will forever be yet another skid mark on Trump's tighty whiteys, just like the last one.

The administrations will forever be remembered as CHAOS.

The actual math... Originally Posted by Lantern2814

Where do you get those numbers? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Seems he never showed it, right? No matter. We are gonna find out SOON when this shit hits for real.

Cuz the Dems fell for it when the GOP said "I'll just put the tip in."

While I suspect there are some that would prefer to utilize the USDA for such things, there is a new government website dedicated to illegal aliens on Medicade. I believe they refer to them as criminals. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Are you that desperate to try to show me up these days that you refer to me out of context and off topic?

Amazing.

Ummm...yeah, I did use the USDA for my point back in the thread about motherfucking SNAP. In reference to SNAP, and a lie that you posted about who gets the benefit. I used the USDA. You know, the government agency that ADMINISTERS SNAP?

(oh wait! Since this isn't the first time you mentioned that...is it possible that you didn't even fucking KNOW that they did?! That would explain a lot.... and would be classic!)

Then again, Trump et al run that group. And it is the same ridiculous shit-head shills that host your "new government website."

It is not even worth responding to that site beyond saying this: you truly have no scruples when it comes to vetting any information that you post here.

That's okay. I'll be along every so often to... comment.