Use of MisLeading Images. What is your opinion? NovaTx?

Sorry you see it that way... Believe it or not.

Hmm... or

I like better... It's more me.
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I guess is better than

LoL!





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Oh, come on now Karla. Now you're just insulting our intelligence Too obvious Too transparent.

If what you are stating is true, that you were "just showing guys how easy it is to search images", then this,

was all you needed to say.


Instead you continue to twist the knife that you jabbed into her back by first, showing who's image Cara was using in her avatar. and then, offering a bogus hint of compassion and concern by stating,



Well, if she has a good reason, and she's claiming it's for "security purposes", why in the hell would you go and shine such a spotlight on her?

(I'm not even going to get into the P411 and the rest of your posts in her regard. This ought to suffice)

Don't get me wrong, I do not condone anyone using someone else's images and passing them off as their own. It's dishonest and deceitful...but it's not any more dishonest or deceitful than what you're claiming with your bullshit above.

You knew precisely what you were doing and it's far from what you're claiming

You know it and anyone with half a lick of sense knows it.

If you're going to post it, at least have the guts to own it.



Regards,
SofaKingFun

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Originally Posted by SofaKingFun
So…

I have to admit that I was SURPRISED to wake up this morning and see the comments CRITICIZING KARLA for calling Sweet Cara out on her FAKE PHOTOS!! Seriously, I am REALLY SHOCKED!!

First, let's address the issue of using FAKE PHOTOS. It is WRONG. THERE is no SOFT WAY of saying that… It is identity theft… If a provider is worried about her security then she should not have ANY PHOTOS in her showcase. It is issues like these that give EVERY PROVIDER a BAD NAME!!

As a provider/escort/hooker/whore… whatever, you want to call us… we fight an UPHILL BATTLE every day… Society in general thinks very little of us and we are criticized and portrayed as villains on a DAILY BASIS. The LAST THING that we need to do is ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE!! Yes, it is possible to have INTEGRITY and be a PROVIDER.

Now, that being said… How as a COMMUNITY should we handle this situation? Personally, I believe that each of us at different times of our lives has SCREWED UP… We have made JUDGEMENT CALLS that we should not have… These mistakes and poor decisions choices are OPPORTUNITIES for HUGE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT!!

In my personal opinion I would rather have someone LOVE AND ADORE ALL OF ME and not just the PRETTY parts of my personality. I try to always be the best that I can be but on those times that I MESS UP I want to know that my friends, family, colleagues and clients are willing to give me a SECOND CHANCE to make amends and to allow me to grow from that mistake…

Sweet Cara is an ADORABLE WOMAN…She is beautiful and sweet and I am soooo happy to have her in San Antonio. I believe that she has learned her lesson and I believe that we should help her become the best provider that she can be… I love and respect her no less because she made this error in judgment.

Now, back to Karla… Our wonderful KARLA is a SPITFIRE!! For us to try and change her is WRONG!! I didn't see her posting of these photos as her being mean… as a matter of fact this is a MUCH SOFTER KARLA then we have seen in the past…

In December Karla received a great deal of criticism because of a comment that she made on one of Candi's threads… She was woman enough to offer a sincere apology… and even after she did that she received criticism after criticism for her forthright manner…

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=929574

I saw THESE COMMENTS as a way for her to still be HER… Karla is a truth seeker and it is in her nature to call those out when they have misbehaved… I believed that she was trying to deliver her message in a MUCH SOFTER WAY then she has done in the past… I saw this as growth on her part…

She heard the criticism from the prior month… and she took it a step further and she tried to IMPROVE HER COMMUNICATION SKILLS… BRAVO KARLA!! All of us need to follow your example… We need to each be able to receive constructive criticism and be able to take those words and to try implement changes in our character… We are NEVER TOO OLD to learn and grow…

San Antonio is great because we have sooo many wonderful LADIES AND GENTLEMAN who truly appreciate each other… But we are all different and it is those DIFFERENCES that make each and every one of us sooo special…

Just as we need the SWEET CARA'S of the WORLD… We also need our little SPITFIRES like KARLA XOXO…

With love to both of you ladies…

Your adoring slave,

Guinevere
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Oh, come on now Karla. Now you're just insulting our intelligence Too obvious Too transparent.

If what you are stating is true, that you were "just showing guys how easy it is to search images", then this,

was all you needed to say.


Instead you continue to twist the knife that you jabbed into her back by first, showing who's image Cara was using in her avatar. and then, offering a bogus hint of compassion and concern by stating,



Well, if she has a good reason, and she's claiming it's for "security purposes", why in the hell would you go and shine such a spotlight on her?

(I'm not even going to get into the P411 and the rest of your posts in her regard. This ought to suffice)

Don't get me wrong, I do not condone anyone using someone else's images and passing them off as their own. It's dishonest and deceitful...but it's not any more dishonest or deceitful than what you're claiming with your bullshit above.

You knew precisely what you were doing and it's far from what you're claiming

You know it and anyone with half a lick of sense knows it.

If you're going to post it, at least have the guts to own it.



Regards,
SofaKingFun

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Originally Posted by SofaKingFun
Not sure what's going on with you SKF? Why are "you" going after Karla? She directed nothing at "YOU". Seems if someone has an issue it would be Cara... NO? Did you post this same kind of post directed at Cara for braking the rules and using fake pictures? Maybe I missed it? I like you SKF but this really seems out of character for you.

Oh, come on now Karla. Now you're just insulting our intelligence Too obvious Too transparent.

If what you are stating is true, that you were "just showing guys how easy it is to search images", then this,

was all you needed to say.


Instead you continue to twist the knife that you jabbed into her back by first, showing who's image Cara was using in her avatar. and then, offering a bogus hint of compassion and concern by stating,



Well, if she has a good reason, and she's claiming it's for "security purposes", why in the hell would you go and shine such a spotlight on her?

(I'm not even going to get into the P411 and the rest of your posts in her regard. This ought to suffice)

Don't get me wrong, I do not condone anyone using someone else's images and passing them off as their own. It's dishonest and deceitful...but it's not any more dishonest or deceitful than what you're claiming with your bullshit above.

You knew precisely what you were doing and it's far from what you're claiming

You know it and anyone with half a lick of sense knows it.

If you're going to post it, at least have the guts to own it.



Regards,
SofaKingFun

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Originally Posted by SofaKingFun

Yup!
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Yup! Originally Posted by Novatx
Huh...
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Yup! Originally Posted by Novatx
Huh... Originally Posted by Still Looking
What?
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So…

I have to admit that I was SURPRISED to wake up this morning and see the comments CRITICIZING KARLA for calling Sweet Cara out on her FAKE PHOTOS!! Seriously, I am REALLY SHOCKED!!

Could you possibly be any more dramatic? Geez...breathe. Inhale. Exhale. It ain't that big a deal...

First, let's address the issue of using FAKE PHOTOS. It is WRONG.

Yes, I stated as much. I do not condone using images that are not your own (so I'm going to cut out the rest of this since we are in agreement on this matter)


In my personal opinion I would rather have someone LOVE AND ADORE ALL OF ME and not just the PRETTY parts of my personality. I try to always be the best that I can be but on those times that I MESS UP I want to know that my friends, family, colleagues and clients are willing to give me a SECOND CHANCE to make amends and to allow me to grow from that mistake…
Second chances are great and I'm all for second chances. All a person can do is to extend the olive branch, it's up to the other to take hold. Originally Posted by Slave Guinevere
...it's called forgiveness.

Sweet Cara is an ADORABLE WOMAN…She is beautiful and sweet and I am soooo happy to have her in San Antonio. I believe that she has learned her lesson and I believe that we should help her become the best provider that she can be… I love and respect her no less because she made this error in judgment.

Awesome! Take this line of thincking with you when you read my explanation. If she has, "learned her lesson", then you'll easily understand my gripe-there was no need for Karla to pile on.



Now, back to Karla… Our wonderful KARLA is a SPITFIRE!! For us to try and change her is WRONG!! I didn't see her posting of these photos as her being mean… as a matter of fact this is a MUCH SOFTER KARLA then we have seen in the past…

In December Karla received a great deal of criticism because of a comment that she made on one of Candi's threads… She was woman enough to offer a sincere apology… and even after she did that she received criticism after criticism for her forthright manner…

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=929574

I saw THESE COMMENTS as a way for her to still be HER… Karla is a truth seeker and it is in her nature to call those out when they have misbehaved… I believed that she was trying to deliver her message in a MUCH SOFTER WAY then she has done in the past… I saw this as growth on her part…

She heard the criticism from the prior month… and she took it a step further and she tried to IMPROVE HER COMMUNICATION SKILLS… BRAVO KARLA!! All of us need to follow your example… We need to each be able to receive constructive criticism and be able to take those words and to try implement changes in our character… We are NEVER TOO OLD to learn and grow…

Well that might be your perception, but to me it showed a pattern. She was rude as fuck in Candi's thread and she went out of her way to pile on this one. It might have been different words, but certainly not any "SOFTER", as you seem to believe. Try taking a step back and reading it from an objective point of view, this time and remember that line of thincking I mentioned earlier...

San Antonio is great because we have sooo many wonderful LADIES AND GENTLEMAN who truly appreciate each other… But we are all different and it is those DIFFERENCES that make each and every one of us sooo special…

Just as we need the SWEET CARA'S of the WORLD… We also need our little SPITFIRES like KARLA XOXO…

With love to both of you ladies…

Your adoring slave,

Guinevere
Originally Posted by Slave Guinevere


Not sure what's going on with you SKF? Why are "you" going after Karla? She directed nothing at "YOU". Seems if someone has an issue it would be Cara... NO? Did you post this same kind of post directed at Cara for braking the rules and using fake pictures? Maybe I missed it?

I made mention of the fact that I do not condone using other people's images, So yes, you missed it. However, my issue was NOT with the fact that Cara was using other people's pictures. Since you completely missed my point, please direct your attention to the explanation below.
I like you SKF but this really seems out of character for you.

Well the admiration is mutual,thank you however my reaction is totally in-character. Hopefully my explanation will clarify the reason behind my comments.

Originally Posted by Still Looking

lmmfao!

Okay, ...let me try to explain it to you.

My Karla-gripe is NOT about anything else other than the fact that Karla claims, she was just showing how easy it is to look up images. That's it!

Do NOT get sidetracked thincking that I condone using fake pictures or anything else because I do not. . Focus solely on that one specific claim (which she restated 3 different times in as many pasts)

Karla claimed that "ALL she was doing was showing guys how easy it is to look up a photos to see whether they're real or not",


Which she did here.



TinEye and google image search is a good tool for checking pics.

Anyone can take showcase/avatar pics and check them... It is easy. Originally Posted by XOXO Karla
Okay. No problem. She made her point and gave two different methods or tools that people could use to verify images, as well as posted each and every image that Cara had in her showcase. There.

If she was just showing how easy it was, then that's all that needed to be said.

But, no, let's take this one step further and cite a specific example, Cara's avatar.


As for SweetCara's avatar... It seems as if an escort located in Florida who goes by Chloe is the (possible?) owner of that particular photo.

http://www.eros-miami.com/files/333916.htm Originally Posted by XOXO Karla

This was a dig. She's passing it off as an example, yet does not explain what tool she used to or how she obtained it...? (because I guess one more example proves how easy it is to use something to find this information...not sure what that something is, but nonetheless..it's easy. heh!)

It's a dig, but, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and call it an example.


Now then. We've got BOTH the links to the tools to verify photos as well as SIX (6) examples. That should be enough to meet the criteria of her claim that "all she was doing...", would you not agree?

If your answer is yes, then why would this be necessary??



I have met SweetCara and she was absolutely adorable... She would have no problem getting business using her own photos so I figure if she is using them... She must have a good reason... Security purposes maybe... I actually think it would be best to go off "word of mouth" rather than have misleading pictures. I also notice P411 https://www.preferred411.com/P122522 is allowing her to use a couple of these pics as well as another photo. I assume P411 is not aware of this since I believe they do not allow this kind of stuff. I could be wrong though. Originally Posted by XOXO Karla
Now if you can't see what's going on here, then you need to take the blinkers off, take a step back, and check yourself. because she starts off with a back-handed compliment by telling her how pretty she is, and buttering her up with all this flattery and confirms, that "Cara must have a good reason for using these images...Security" for using these images only to play the "innocent role" by going out of her way to look up her P411 account and dumping her into the grease there by posting *another* example

Now, I have stated that I do not condone using someone elses images. That is not what my gripe with Karla was about. My ENTIRE gripe was that karla was trying to play Little Miss Innocent by claiming "ALL she was trying to do was show how easy it was to check images". Well, IF that was the case, don't ya' thinck that mission was accomplished AFTER she posted the first FIVE (5) examples?

If not, then ESPECIALLY after the example number SIX (6) IN THE VERY NEXT POST?


There was no need for this. This isn't showing how easy it is, this is blatant piling-on and it's Karla getting another dig in on another provider.

Still don't believe me?

(Again, it's her claim that "all she was doing was showing how easy it is to check pictures", where my gripe lays.)...



SweetCara, just so you know... I wasn't the one who reported your pics... I was just showing guys how if they really wanted to know if they were real or fake... They could just search the image. Originally Posted by XOXO Karla
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See that little smilie? That's Karla being smug. She knew precisely what she was doing. She's NOT just showing how easy it is to look up an image, she's being the "c" word and Sonya, Nova, and I, knocked that right off.



How you didn't catch that it is easy to understand. (me and Sonya agreed. nuff said). But perhaps you should remove those rose-colored Karla glasses, take a step back, and re-read Karla's back-to-back-to-back-posts, only this time, do it under the guise that ,"all she was doing was "just" showing how easy it is to check images". You'll likely catch it this time. If not, keep re-reading it until you do. lol


So if this is so "SHOCKING" to you, then that's on you.

My whole contention in all of this is simply that
Karla was being just as deceitful as Cara by not being honest with her claim. She was not *just* showing how easy it was to look-up images. Her point was made after post #1. All the subsequent posts by Karla were nothing more than a dog-pile with her being the lead bitch. THAT is the point I was trying to make and that was my entire gripe.

Yes, it is wrong for anyone to use another person's images. I fully agree. It's deceitful. Just as it's deceitful to claim one thing with the purpose of something entirely different...it just makes it easier to detect when it's this obvious. LoL!

Well hopefully that cleared the air. I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

Regards,
SofaKingFun

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SKF…

I THINK that you have LOST that LOVING FEELING…





Your heartbroken slave,

Guinevere
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Just For You Slave...



Your Assistant Cabana Boy
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Your Assistant Cabana Boy Originally Posted by Still Looking
Hmmm…

Rumor has it that there is a FULL TIME POSITION for SG'S CABANA BOY…

Only ONE QUESTION REMAINS…

Will you wear the PINK THONG?

Your flirty slave,

Guinevere
Hmmm…

Rumor has it that there is a FULL TIME POSITION for SG'S CABANA BOY…

Only ONE QUESTION REMAINS…

Will you wear the PINK THONG?

Your flirty slave,

Guinevere Originally Posted by Slave Guinevere
My Slave, I would wear anything for you....or nothing. ANYTIME! You sexy goddess!!!
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Hmmm..

NOTE to SELF… Go buy ALPHA a HOT PINK BIKINI with a PINK THONG BOTTOM…

Sweetheart… Do you think that ONE CABANA BOY is enough for the TWO OF US?

Or do we need MORE? WE could HOLD AUDITIONS!!! What do you THINK?

Your bikini loving slave,

Guinevere

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Hmmm…

Rumor has it that there is a FULL TIME POSITION for SG'S CABANA BOY…

Only ONE QUESTION REMAINS…

Will you wear the PINK THONG?

Your flirty slave,

Guinevere Originally Posted by Slave Guinevere
I'm thinking.....
I read what I wrote earlier and I do see how my posts comes across as me being the "mean girl" to Cara. In the thread http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=954223 the picture thing came up and I decided to post this. Smartest thing? Eh, maybe not... Mean thing? No. Well, I don't think so. The authenticity of pics came up and I decided to post a girls pics that were false... What? I didn't do the popular thing and be scared it would hurt my business? Have your opinion... It doesn't bother me. At least I'm not afraid of defending my opinion when I make the choice to air it unlike you SKF.