Prostitution notwithstanding, is the word whore - in any way - a pejorative or is it not?

Interesting reading. I don’t post often but am obliged to comment on this.

Daphne, I doubt you have helped your business with your posts. You are coming across as an angry young lady. Your post on the original(?) calendar topic Originally Posted by TGBeldin
Thanks, for your assessment. Thank goodness, that that is YOUR assessment. Anyone here that is familiar with me know I am quite the opposite of angry... I just do not have an appreciation for BS. Either way, if the shoe fits, wear it well is my philosophy, not the pretentious diluting I've seen here. Now I'm off to ice my foot, I sprained it dancing the other day.
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AMEN! It took a collective 30+ pages for someone to get my point.

My point is not to call women derogatory names, but rather to open our eyes and others that this hobby is not so different than what happens in their lives. Therefore, why are they so concerned about keeping it illegal.

I'm an advocate for safe and legal behavior between consenting adults. When you expand the technical definition of "whore" to include more situations, including women and men, you force more people to consider other aspects of prostitution and possibly see that 99% of the time, it will not affect them. Originally Posted by LilMynx69
Minx
I am very respectful of your thought but you know that the context was derogatory the reason I call her out
Between ladies I do believe right and wrongs words
You may not agree..however you do know what was initial intention of miss Daphnee to call me whores..

I saw on treads that apparently I didn't respond because if was in wrong and I knew it..no..I just rather work on my advertising and work side of it and any arguing something is a waste

Minx and others realise that I leave and work in Canada where my work is way accepted than in Texas..I can attest that our community would be upset. If they had the same comment that was been done to anymore

I don't even recall girls accepting from guys or boys
We are by far more open than you toward the laws

I won't feed on those treads I'm sorry..I spoke. My. Mind and it bother a Houston
Lady's.okay life move one
Vj
Thanks for taking the time to check in, Victoria Jolie. I respect and appreciate your thoughts.

However, I still don't believe that Daphne originally meant to insult you with her ORIGINAL comment. She simply referred to 12 prostitutes as whores. I won't weigh in on what happened after, but I think the original comment was blow out of proportion.

Stay warm!

Xoxo,
LMx
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Thanks for taking the time to check in, Victoria Jolie. I respect and appreciate your thoughts.

However, I still don't believe that Daphne originally meant to insult you with her ORIGINAL comment. She simply referred to 12 prostitutes as whores. I won't weigh in on what happened after, but I think the original comment was blow out of proportion.

Stay warm!

Xoxo,
LMx Originally Posted by LilMynx69
We had different opinions

As for miss dahpne she actually got what she originaly what she was seeking attention
Got for her!!!'
She definite accomplished goal!
VJ
Thancks, whore!

Did you vote?
Thanks for your thoughts. As you stated, you're NOT a legal expert. Well, luckily I am. Which also means that I DO getto play word games each abd everyday. I've sitting at my desk manipulating words for my own purpose all day, and I'm not talking about ECCIE.

And I'm quite certain of the legal basis for my arguments. But that doesn't mean you must agree. It just means I'd kick your butt in a court of law.

Seriously, I appreciate your viewpoint. The world would be a dull and dreary place if we all agreed. I love a gentleman you can disagree in a polite and logical way. You can Voluntarily leave a stack of $$$ on my bedside table any day. And if you choose not to, that's fine, too. So let me know when you're in Houston.

Yours truly,
LMx

PS. For the record, I don't have a large number of guys beating down my door to give me cash. But the handful that are, kick some serious ASS! Originally Posted by LilMynx69
This is the kind of reply that might convince me to post more often. Thank you. I agree with you on most your points, most importantly that you would indeed whip my ass in a courtroom. I leave legal arguing to professionals in that field, and I am not one. Whenever I start to forget that my sister--who is one--reminds me in not very subtle ways that I am a legal neophyte. Manipulating words is something I do for a living, but not legalistic ones.

The whole point of a web site such as this is to express differing opinions on largely subjective topics so I agree with you there as well. It would be very dull if everyone agreed on every topic. The key point you add but many forget is "polite and logical". That is why I do not post here frequently. I find that there are some who see difference of opinion as an insult to their manhood or womanhood so they respond with less than polite rebuttals. Old-T pointed me to this set of threads and told me I would find you intriguing. He and I are on opposite sides of many, many issues. We can have long e-mail/PM discussions that convert neither of us, but usually enlighten both of us. That in my mind is what these boards should do more of. If there was more of that I would post more, but as it stands I will read something here that piques my interest and follow up with a PM. That seems to keep discussions more civil, more interesting, and more informative. Now it looks like I have to write him back and admit he was correct in his assessment of you. Oh how I hate to admit he is right about anything!

In closing, I promise you I will not only let you know if I am in Houston but I will let you know if I am anywhere in eastern Texas, so if your schedule allows I will travel to Houston for the sole and explicit purpose of meeting you.
Thanks, for your assessment. Thank goodness, that that is YOUR assessment. Anyone here that is familiar with me know I am quite the opposite of angry... I just do not have an appreciation for BS. Either way, if the shoe fits, wear it well is my philosophy, not the pretentious diluting I've seen here. Now I'm off to ice my foot, I sprained it dancing the other day. Originally Posted by Luxury Daphne
I think your subsequent reply to Victoria contradicts what you say here. You may not have intended your original whore comment to be insulting to her, but after she explained that she takes it as derogatory you come back and use it to her a second time. There is nothing else to thing about your most recent whore comment other than it was an intentional insult.
This is the kind of reply that might convince me to post more often. Thank you. I agree with you on most your points, most importantly that you would indeed whip my ass in a courtroom. I leave legal arguing to professionals in that field, and I am not one. Whenever I start to forget that my sister--who is one--reminds me in not very subtle ways that I am a legal neophyte. Manipulating words is something I do for a living, but not legalistic ones.

The whole point of a web site such as this is to express differing opinions on largely subjective topics so I agree with you there as well. It would be very dull if everyone agreed on every topic. The key point you add but many forget is "polite and logical". That is why I do not post here frequently. I find that there are some who see difference of opinion as an insult to their manhood or womanhood so they respond with less than polite rebuttals. Old-T pointed me to this set of threads and told me I would find you intriguing. He and I are on opposite sides of many, many issues. We can have long e-mail/PM discussions that convert neither of us, but usually enlighten both of us. That in my mind is what these boards should do more of. If there was more of that I would post more, but as it stands I will read something here that piques my interest and follow up with a PM. That seems to keep discussions more civil, more interesting, and more informative. Now it looks like I have to write him back and admit he was correct in his assessment of you. Oh how I hate to admit he is right about anything!

In closing, I promise you I will not only let you know if I am in Houston but I will let you know if I am anywhere in eastern Texas, so if your schedule allows I will travel to Houston for the sole and explicit purpose of meeting you. Originally Posted by TGBeldin
Thank you for your kind words. I had a feeling once you understood me a bit better, you'd realize that we really are mostly on the same page!

Please do let me know when you're passing through, I know a great piano bar. Very old school...almost a speakeasy. I'll take you there. It's loud enough to be fun and quiet enough for intimate conversation. Keep in touch!

xoxo,
LMx
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Fuck this polite shit.......can we see some more "whores" and "bitches" rants.........pretty please?
I never indictated that people should use the word WHORE as a perjorative. Because I don't think that. I'm merely stating that showing people that's one……………………….. And none of them are going to start calling their demand loved ones whores because if what I've said. Originally Posted by LilMynx69


Then you are wrong; whore is a pejorative. In no situation is the word whore not a pejorative. You are also wrong to think that they ever did or ever will call the females in their lives whores unless they are being abusive.

Think you are TOFTT all you want, but allowing people to convince you that they are not degrading you when they call you a whore or worse when the sway you to call yourself one they are not just calling your names but they are holding you down. You are fooling no one but yourself.

You say you’ve come back to the boards after a long absence; I believe you. And with that in mind, I think you started out your reemergence trying to blast the other women by sniping at them. Calling them names, starting controversy where none existed, condescending to them and in general putting on a softly peddled mud show for the men. I have no problem with putting on your show lady bug, I just have a problem with the way you do it. You’ve been nothing but challenging to any woman you think are successful and condescending to all attempting to be the top I don’t fuck for money Queen Bee in the Houston market. I’ve got no problem with that you wanting or being the top Queen Bee in Houston. I have no problem with your unchecked ego – Everybody here knows about mine. But again, my problem is your method of trying to trample the other women and stand on their shoulders.

AMEN! It took a collective 30+ pages for someone to get my point.

My point is not to call women derogatory names, Originally Posted by LilMynx69


No, that has not at all been your point. Your points have been that YOU can call women names by virtue of you calling yourself derogatory names. And you do that to further your agenda which is to spin the whore thingie in a sexy light so you get your inbox cranking. But unfortunately it’s transparent and you simply have come off as a condescending know it all.

However, I still don't believe that Daphne originally meant to insult you with her ORIGINAL comment. She simply referred to 12 prostitutes as whores. I won't weigh in on what happened after, but I think the original comment was blow out of proportion. Originally Posted by LilMynx69


Then may I suggest you take that up with LD since she is the one that blew it out of proportion when someone called LD on her anger and abusive ways.

Now, we have the “technical” definition of what you think you are, frankly, it leaves me flat. You started out feeding on the other women, and now you’re feeding on your own tail. I truly wish you as much luck with your PM’s as you do with your scraps. The Stonewall Jackson quote still comes to mind, “May you be whatever you resolve to be.” However none of this mitigates the fact that if you’d wrapped up your last man properly, you wouldn’t be back on the board hoping for stacks of bills on the night stand.

Now if you will excuse me, I have asked for you already, if you are not prepared I understand; but I’m done trying to dance around your condescension and transparent marketing. I’m no more willing to feed off of you publically than I am any other woman. I’ll address any more merits you have regarding the thesis, but I’ll leave you to your client gathering and undercurrents of discord by simply re-posting these last two paragraphs. Sound good?
Olivia, I followed your lead and copied from the other thread. Xoxo

You're totally entitled to your opinion about me. I'm not going to stoop to personal attacks about you or your character or your history, because it's not my style. Not the way I choose to make my point or who I am, personally.

I'll say it again, I try really hard to like you, and I think I do, but the way you argue and throw out insults makes it very hard.

While it may have been condescending to post a link about developing non-emotional cogent arguments, it was sincere. You have something important to say but it gets very lost in emotion and disparagement. I'm sure in real life this is not the case...but it is how it appears here. Which is ironic, because that is basically the comment that I originally made about Wakeup and dearhunter. That asshole online behavior aside, I think they're likely decent guys if we were all sitting together at the bar at The Palm.

Clearly, from your comments here and your comments yesterday, you haven't read my exhaustive posts in D&T about my current situation. I don't expect you to care about my life and what is going on, why should you? I'm just saying that many of the accusations you make have been explained fully in the past.

I agree with you that your fans and readers read you because hey think your fun (and smart) and that mine read me because they are trying to figure out my angle. Fair enough. That's why I get PMs asking about my life. I'm rather open about it there. But much like you (e.g., your ethnicity), there are a few tidbits I don't publicize on the open board simply because they might make me VERY easy to find in real life.

The thing I have the most issue with is that you think I'm unkind to the other ladies here. I don't agree. I know many of these ladies in person. We socialize and share advice and stories. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a lady here who will say she's come to me for any reason and been treated with anything but care and respect.

Additionally, because of my respect for the man in my life who makes many things possible and easier for me, I can't let one comment stand without specifically addressing it:

"However none of this mitigates the fact that if you’d wrapped up your last man properly, you wouldn’t be back on the board hoping for stacks of bills on the night stand. "

As stated previously, I haven't "wrapped up" my last man properly or improperly. He's still very present in my life and we have a wonderful relationship that is truly mutually beneficial. Unfortunately, as he gets older and his health begins to fade, he doesn't have the ability to spend as much time with me as we both would like. Quite frankly, it's very hard in me and it's hard to imagine my life beyond him. And not because of the money. He's been quite generous to be sure that I am well taken care of after he's gone. That said, I can't just go out and have a "real relationship." Quite frankly, my type is the classic Type A womanizer...but the type that truly LOVES women. Not the whore mongering stereotype to which you refer. That's the type of guys I like, and attract. So it only makes sense that this is a good place for me to socialize online.

Sometimes I go to lunch with guys from ECCIE, sometimes drinks. So? I'm not charging them, so I'm not competition here. It's just a good fit. And I'm still not not sure why it's a problem for you.

When I do hook up with guys and they give me money, they don't do it because I asked or I need it. I make good money at my job and that's not including my allowance from my generous benefactor. They give me money because they know it turns me on and many men find that extremely sexy. It also makes them feel like they are paying for my silence and to be their confidante. Other things the high powered type of guys I like find important and sexy.

In closing, Olivia, I wish you the best. I didn't intend to trample you or others and step on them. If you truly feel that way, then please accept my sincere apologies. That's not who I am.

Take care and I am,

Truly yours,
LMx
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Fuck this polite shit.......can we see some more "whores" and "bitches" rants.........pretty please? Originally Posted by dearhunter
Just click on your own posts.


harhar hehe
Fuck this polite shit.......can we see some more "whores" and "bitches" rants.........pretty please? Originally Posted by dearhunter
How was that, Dear dearhunter...I even gave you props in my post, you whore mongerer. Happy hour drinks, later? On me...that way you know I want more than your wallet.

Come on you know you find me alluring!

xoxo,
LMx
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Really depends on a girls attitude and persona.

Act like and present yourself as a whore, and don't be surprised
if you get treated like one.

Present yourself as a lady and expect to be treated as one.

Money really is a secondary aspect, unless it is not.

Halfwitted, uncultured, idiotic, inbred, chauvinistic, frat-tarded- cromagnon-mentality guys.
will always be a factor in your line of occupation

Guys you wouldn't give a single consideration to in civilian life, but are the
ever present useless fodder. that have some use, be it ever so minimal,
in your present purpose.

That is the real heart of the factor, personally I wish someone would
put those guys on a big ship and dump them all out at sea, how you
deal with them is your business.

If I were a woman in this line of work I wouldn't have anything for them.

Silly, stupid, blips on a screen, that they are.

But, hey, a girls gotta eat.

My apologies to all you gals as well, this post is only my severely limited
attempt to understand your perspective. Love to all of you.
How was that, Dear dearhunter...I even gave you props in my post, you whore mongerer. Happy hour drinks, later? On me...that way you know I want more than your wallet.

Come on you know you find me alluring!

xoxo,
LMx Originally Posted by LilMynx69
I give it a 4 of 10, and it had nothing to do with the thesis and entirely to do with bullshit so:

Now, we have the “technical” definition of what you think you are, frankly, it leaves me flat. You started out feeding on the other women, and now you’re feeding on your own tail. I truly wish you as much luck with your PM’s as you do with your scraps. The Stonewall Jackson quote still comes to mind, “May you be whatever you resolve to be.” However none of this mitigates the fact that if you’d wrapped up your last man properly, you wouldn’t be back on the board hoping for stacks of bills on the night stand.

Now if you will excuse me, I have asked for you already, if you are not prepared I understand; but I’m done trying to dance around your condescension and transparent marketing. I’m no more willing to feed off of you publically than I am any other woman. I’ll address any more merits you have regarding the thesis, but I’ll leave you to your client gathering and undercurrents of discord by simply re-posting these last two paragraphs. Sound good? Originally Posted by OliviaHoward