It's up to the lady to decide where her boundaries are and how to enforce them. And sorry kids, I think it's ridiculous to think any type of person is more needier than another. We's all just flesh and blood. Originally Posted by ClairJordan
It's up to the lady to decide where her boundaries are and how to enforce them. And sorry kids, I think it's ridiculous to think any type of person is more needier than another. We's all just flesh and blood. Originally Posted by ClairJordanyou`re right abot the boundaries. where you are wrong is when the provider is WAY younger than the guy in question and not mature enough to see what is comeing to her.
You didn't understand anything I wrote. The original post was about people who are clingy and needy. . Originally Posted by acp5762OK, got that clingy/needy part and I do not agree with your first sentence after this explaination.
. Nobody really appreciates a person who is overly needy and clingy. . Originally Posted by acp5762That is just not true. Most do not but some do. Haven't you read, they exploit them. They need needy people if you will.
What I was trying to convey and apparently you didn't get it, is a person who is clingy or needy is born out of an individual who has not developed a sense of self. . Originally Posted by acp5762Oh, I got it. I do not totally agree with it but I got it.
In other words they look for validation from other people instead of from within. . Originally Posted by acp5762We all do that, some more than others. Marshall does not look for it in others as much as many on here seem to, yet if there was a poll taken he migght fall short on the 'healthy' side according to the tone of all the replys he has generated.
They almost go around asking people " Am I ok, do you like me. Now go back and read the very first post and all those that follow. And write back and tell me what you've learned. Originally Posted by acp5762I have learned that we all have different versions of what is needy....wait, I already knew that. I have learned that on philosophical questions there is not a right or wrong. Just what is right or wrong for each....wait I knew that.
OK, got that clingy/needy part and I do not agree with your first sentence after this explaination.You ask if I have learned anything. Yes, but not particularly from you at this point anyway. Everything you stated maybe true, and quite frankly generalized and matter of fact. Yes people seek out needy people and exploit them. As people we are social beings we certainly need eachother we need interaction with eachother. If we are not in the company of others we are quite often thinking about someone, thats how important others are to us. You stated something in your last post that " No Man Is an Island" that is absolutly correct. We all must have relationships in our lives. But to recap what these escorts were saying in the main post was they saw guys that from what I could gather wanted to be viewed by their escort as a significant other be in a relationship of some sorts. They were getting phone calls, Text Mesg, emails they appeared clingy or needy as if they needed this escort for something more than was initially offered. These escorts could not accomodate that. They had other clients, other areas of their life that required more of their attention than this overwhelming client. This sort of behavior happens in conventional relationships as well and the outcome is seldom favorable. So to narrow this down to the Escort Client interaction. You know why you're there, so does she. You place some cash on her dresser, you aren't going to sit and talk about the economy, no. You're there for sex. She's human. she may find you nice, attractive. She may even find you to be the type she would date under normal circumstances, but thats not the deal. Some guys go away thinking that though. It doesn't matter if you see an escort numerous times, take her on extended vacations with you. You are still paying for sex and her time and she is not your girlfriend. She will do with others as she has done with you. She has provided you with something you feel you needed, for compensation. Thats an escort, thats all she is. Now a guy who contacts her with a purpose and understands what the limits and provisions are, not only understands her, but himself as well. But the guy thats unable to decipher the true meaning and reason for their meeting and crosses boundries with an escort comes off as being clingy, needy or just plain creepy. I'll say this. What you do and how you interact with an escort may very well be how you'll interact with any women you're in a relationship with.
That is just not true. Most do not but some do. Haven't you read, they exploit them. They need needy people if you will.
Oh, I got it. I do not totally agree with it but I got it.
We all do that, some more than others. Marshall does not look for it in others as much as many on here seem to, yet if there was a poll taken he migght fall short on the 'healthy' side according to the tone of all the replys he has generated.
I have learned that we all have different versions of what is needy....wait, I already knew that. I have learned that on philosophical questions there is not a right or wrong. Just what is right or wrong for each....wait I knew that.
May I ask if you have learnt anything? Originally Posted by WTF
" I need you to need me" is classic co-dependency.Hey Cammy , here is another point, many co dependents are the addicts spouses, they cling to the addict in hopes of changing them. That is usually borne from some condition response from their childhood. Mom trying to save Dad...... What generally happens is they in fact whined up enabling them. A viscous pattern of a dog chasing its tail. We are creatures of habit, good and bad!
Both parties suck the life out of EACH OTHER.
Whilst ex addicts have long been identified of being one of the most susceptible groups to engage in co-dependent behavior (loads of data out there to support this) they are by no means the only ones by a long shot. As Clair and WTF said, co-dependency is not restricted to certain groups and is not always viewed as unattractive.
C Originally Posted by Camille
" co-dependency is not restricted to certain groups and is not always viewed as unattractive.Great point, afterall what would AA be without their alcoholics!
C Originally Posted by Camille
You ask if I have learned anything. Yes, but not particularly from you at this point anyway. . Originally Posted by acp5762I was not asking if you had learnt anything from me. God help us all if that was my purpose in life!
Hey Cammy , her is another point, many co dependents are the addicts spouses, they cling to the addict in hopes of changing them. That is usually borne from some condition response from their childhood. Mom trying to save Dad...... What generally happens is they in fact whined up enabling them. A viscous pattern of a dog chasing its tail. We are creatures of habit, good and bad! Originally Posted by WTFexactly. that is how some marriages sustain with the help of secret lovers and how some pretentious wanna be HDHs sustain their inflated sense of self instead of the long overdue knock on realities door :-)
Breath play is certainly on my menu. so you`re in for some fisting and some breath play?LOL.Originally Posted by ninasastri
Breath play is certainly on my menu. so you`re in for some fisting and some breath play?Good thing my SERE training is up to date!
LOL.
nina tightens the blindfold around Marshal's head. She leans close and whispers...."Not too tight?"
Marshal. "I'm OK." He pants.
Marshal hears her heals "click click" and stop right behind him. His heart beats faster.
What he doesn't see. What he can't see, is WTF greasing a baseball bat with Vaseline. Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius
You had me worried up to the point you said WTF had the bat....I figure he swings like a girl and probably has the Vaseline end in his hands [nasty habit]...... Originally Posted by Marshall
Other threads are posting fine, maybe it was a small corruption for just this thread. We will now join our program already in progress.I thought it was TFF, people quoting people saying chit they didn't say!
