Lastly,
Is what you guys are saying is that it was mostly Black people Owning slaves here in America ?
I don't remember seeing any Black neighbors in Gone with the Wind ?
You mean most of those Plantation Homes on those southern tours were owned by Blacks ?
Were whites not complicit ?
Does that absolve the white Americans of any part in things ?
Originally Posted by sportfisherman
While it was pretty easy to predict that one or more of the geniuses on this forum would totally misinterpret the point or purpose of the blurb about Koger's book, I did not anticipate it would be missed by such a wide margin. Impressive.
The point is that slavery was a globally accepted institution practiced in many unique ways by peoples of all races against others as well as their own. Nowhere did I or the post I made attempt to convey that more blacks in this country owned slaves than whites did. That would be preposterous and it's factually not true. Hard to fathom that you could read that into it.
Do you really think 'Gone With the Wind' is a documentary? Don't answer.
The biggest mistake you make, although not the only one, is confusing what white people owe blacks as a society and as an individual. As a society we owe them the real opportunity to better their communities without easily corruptible giveaway programs and without penalizing those who had nothing to do with committing the injustices of the past. There are adult conversations to be had about some sort of real reparation but what's been done to this point has been a disaster. The problems of the black community however, go deeper than just the legacy of slavery in this country. Blacks need to be committed to fixing the issues of violence and fathering if they are to succeed. Whites alone cannot be the "savior" blacks and the idea that they can is in fact racist. I think that what most black folks want is the same as most white folks, self determination. And we should afford them that.
As for what we owe black folks on an individual level, we owe them the the civility, dignity and fairness we extend to anyone we encounter in our daily lives. I refer back to Marcus Aurelius.
I would also refer you to Glenn Loury or John McWhorter if you are interested in an adult conversation about race. Luke will love them. They're Ivy Leaguers like him!