Hunters laptop

So flynn is guilty. Thanks for clearing that up.
As for the rest of it, The owner's attorney's statement is nothing more than that. A statement. It carries no more weight than anyone else's statement at this point.
Biden's signature has not been verified according to Fox.https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...-fbi-paperwork
or by the WaPo,
"The Washington Post has been unable to verify the authenticity of any of the emails published by the New York Post, and the Biden campaign has disputed the New York Post’s claims about what the emails show."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...1be_story.html

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman View Post
It is an interview. He isn't under oath. He isn't being cross examined.


You don't have to be under oath when you talk to the FBI. Lying to the FBI is a crime, period. You seem to be suggesting that the FBI doesn't cross examine/ ask questions of people who bring them evidence. Is that your position?

What are you babbling about? We were talking about Bobulinski's interview. The one you posted that I didn't read either. That wasn't with the FBI.

The reason there is no coverage of the story by 99% of the media is because of the letter sent by the FBI to radcliff. They have nothing to say and won't confirm or deny any info about the laptop until after the election if at all.
hhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/context/read-the-fbi-s-letter-to-sen-ron-johnson/ceb43329-a894-4c02-b5b2-5a926a6fdc5d/?itid=lk_interstitial_manual_4

The New York Post on Wednesday published an article based on emails purportedly obtained from a laptop that Hunter Biden, the son of former vice president Joe Biden, had supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. Here’s a brief explainer to help readers evaluate its significance.

What’s new?
The key thrust of the article is that an April 17, 2015, email suggests Hunter Biden arranged for a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm to meet with the then-vice president when he was in charge of U.S. policy toward Ukraine. “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure,” reads the email, supposedly written by Vadym Pozharskyi, an adviser to the board of Burisma.

Why would that be important?
Hunter Biden in 2014 became a board member of Burisma, which news reports at the time suggested was a conflict of interest, given his father’s position. The former vice president has said he did not discuss Burisma with his son. The email is not specific about the nature of the meeting and is written in a way that it could be talking about a possible future meeting. Nevertheless, Republicans have long sought to tie Joe Biden to his son’s business interests, even launching a Senate investigation, so any indication that the vice president helped his son could be politically damaging. The New York Post claimed it was a “smoking-gun email.”

How do we know the email is authentic?
We do not. The New York Post published PDF printouts of several emails allegedly taken from the laptop, but for the “smoking-gun” email, it shows only a photo made the day before the story was posted, according to Thomas Rid, the author of “Active Measures,” a book on disinformation. “There is no header information, no metadata.” The Washington Post has not been able to independently verify or authenticate these emails, as requests to make the laptop hard drive available for inspection have not been granted. The New York Post said it obtained the material from former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, a personal lawyer to President Trump.
Moreover, another alleged email published by the New York Post contradicts the notion that Hunter Biden could influence his father. “What he will do and say is out of our hands,” Hunter Biden wrote in an email that the New York Post said was sent April 13, 2014.

What does the Biden campaign say?
Andrew Bates, a campaign spokesman for Joe Biden, said a review of Biden’s schedules from 2015 finds no record of any such meeting. Officials who worked for Biden at the time told The Fact Checker that no such meeting took place.

“I was with the vice president in all of his meetings on Ukraine,” said Michael Carpenter, Biden’s foreign policy adviser in 2015. “He never met with this guy. In fact, I had never heard of this guy until the New York Post story broke.”
The New York Post article also cites an email from Pozharskyi to Hunter Biden saying he was “going to share this information with the US embassy here in Kyiv, as well as the office of Mr Amos Hochstein in the States.”

“I know for a fact he never contacted me or my office,” said Hochstein, who at the time worked closely with Biden as special envoy and coordinator for international energy affairs. “I provided every record to the Senate investigation, and no mention of this guy was ever made, no emails, no correspondence. I know almost every player in the energy sector in Ukraine. I never met this guy.”

Carpenter said that the vice president wouldn’t have had a meeting with a company executive. “He was the vice president of the United States,” he said. “He met with prime ministers.”

This does not exclude the possibility that Biden briefly shook hands and chatted with Pozharskyi during a public event. Hunter Biden, for instance, helped arrange for a potential business partner, Jonathan Li, to shake hands with his father in the lobby of a Beijing hotel when the vice president made an official trip to China.
Pozharskyi, in the April 17 email, mentions that he spoke to Hunter “yesterday evening.” At the request of The Fact Checker, a Biden aide reviewed Biden’s schedule for April 16, 2015. The vice president gave remarks at the White House Greek Independence Day Reception, between 5 and 6 p.m., and then spoke to the Congressional Fire Services Institute Gala, from 6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m., the aide said.

What does Hunter Biden say?
Asked to verify whether the email is genuine, Hunter Biden’s attorney George Mesires told The Fact Checker: “We have no idea where this came from, and certainly cannot credit anything that Rudy Giuliani provided to the NY Post, but what I do know for certain is that this purported meeting never happened.”

Are there errors in the New York Post report?
A separate article, about another email, claims that a public relations company that worked for Burisma was allowed to take part in a conference call about an upcoming visit by Joe Biden to Ukraine. But there was nothing secret about this call, and the transcript was released publicly and posted on the White House website.
More broadly, the New York Post repeats the falsehood, advanced by Trump, that the “elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company.”

We have fact-checked this repeatedly. During President Barack Obama’s second term, Biden was in charge of the Ukraine portfolio, keeping in close touch with the country’s president, Petro Poroshenko. Biden’s brief was to sweet-talk and jawbone Poroshenko into making reforms that Ukraine’s Western benefactors wanted to see as part of Ukraine’s escape from Russia’s orbit. But the Americans saw an obstacle to reform in Viktor Shokin, the top Ukrainian prosecutor, whom the United States viewed as ineffective and beholden to Poroshenko and Ukraine’s corrupt oligarchs. In particular, Shokin had failed to pursue an investigation of the founder of Burisma, Mykola Zlochevsky.

The U.S. Embassy in Kyiv proposed that Biden, during his 2015 visit there, use a pending delivery of $1 billion of loan guarantees as leverage to force reform. Biden addressed the Ukrainian parliament, decrying the “cancer of corruption” in the country and criticizing the prosecutor’s office. During that visit, Biden privately told Poroshenko the loan guarantees would be withheld unless Shokin was replaced. After repeated calls and meetings between the two men over several months, Shokin was removed and the loan guarantees were provided.
Pavlo Klimkin, Ukrainian foreign minister from 2014 until Aug. 29, 2019, said that the firing of Shokin was universally urged by Ukraine’s benefactors. “The demand came not just from the U.S., and not just from Biden,” he said. “I heard it in every meeting with the international financial institutions, especially the IMF and World Bank. It was not just Biden. Clearly.”

Colin H. Kahl, Biden’s national security adviser at the time, told The Fact Checker that “our policy on corruption and Shokin in Ukraine kept getting tougher across 2015, so the whole theory of the case [in the New York Post] makes no sense.”

Why is this coming out now?
Good question. The FBI supposedly obtained the hard drive earlier this year from John MacIsaac, who said he owns the Wilmington Mac Shop.

MacIsaac told reporters on Wednesday that a MacBook laptop was dropped off at his shop in Wilmington, Del., in April 2019. MacIsaac, who said he was legally blind, said that he was almost certain that it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer. He said that he made several attempts to get in touch with Hunter Biden but the equipment was still in his hands 90 days after it had been left there, and he said that he became curious about what he’d seen.
He made a copy of the hard drive and gave it to Giuliani. This past weekend, Giuliani passed a copy to the New York Post. But presumably the laptop would have been of use to the year-long Senate investigation, which found no wrongdoing by Biden.

As Giuliani has sought to locate information about Hunter Biden and Ukraine, he has regularly interacted with a Ukrainian lawmaker who was recently sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department as being an “active Russian agent for over a decade” and was engaged in an influence operation to affect the 2020 election. Those interactions have given rise to fears that the emails could be part of a broader disinformation campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-an-explainer/






https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/feds-examining-if-alleged-hunter-biden-emails-are-linked-foreign-n1243620

More than 50 former senior intelligence officials have signed on to a letter outlining their belief that the recent disclosure of emails allegedly belonging to Joe Biden’s son “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...disinfo-430276

They don't say it is Russian



Yes, I know the FBI has the laptop. The emails being shown around are not the originals. The FBI has all that. Since Dec. of 2019 was it? Would the FBI sit on actionable info all that time? Only if there was an active investigation going on. Which you won't know anything about.

And congrats. You're the only trumpy who knows why flynn is guilty of the crime he pled guilty to. Per you; ("you don't have to be under oath when you talk to the FBI. Lying to the FBI is a crime, period. You seem to be suggesting that the FBI doesn't cross examine/ ask questions of people who bring them evidence. Is that your position?") My position is the same as yours in this case. Lying to the FBI is a crime. Period. It seems strange you're afraid to tell that to your trumpy-flynn supporters.

You're so locked into your "their side" evidence that you won't read the info I posted. Because you're "afraid to".

No big deal because it is now easily accessible if needed.

Why do you think Pelosi and Mnuchin have been negotiating all this time? It is for a stimulus. Because the recovery so far is "not enough". You seem to be one of the few that don't know that. The sticking point isn't that it isn't needed. It is over how much.

In case you have forgotten what this is about, you know nothing more about the facts of the actual content than they knew Oct. 21 (the FBI letter)

It does but it is heading in the right direction. To hear Biden and Pelosi tell it, it is "not enough". Originally Posted by HedonistForever

https://www.washingtonpost.com/conte...itial_manual_4

Done any boat inspections lately?
Set any medical experts straight?

Figured out the difference between the burden of proof in a criminal vs. a civil case?

How many people have accessed your personal information available on this site? I could hear your tears when you posted,

"Little insecure, immature pukes on Eccie look up members' personal information and share it with other members .... then try to use it to intimidate. It's what small-minded juveniles do."
You were intimidated by someone online who said they would kick your ass?
So you're uneducated, a liar, and a pussy. The whole package.

I noticed that you're considered to be a flaming prick by many people in numerous forums. That's probably because you are.

Plus you've pretended to be many occupations but you always slip up and demonstrate a fundamental lack of knowledge in your "chosen" field.

Now fuck off and crawl back into your hole.

Neither was Bitten when he was asked about what he knew of Hunter's bribery and extortion ... and said he knew nothing about it.

Now here's a relevant question:

Who would want someone to be President who didn't know his son was extorting money from foreign governments?

Answer: The same person who would vote for someone for President who didn't know her spouse was getting blow jobs in the same house with her .... downstairs and down the hall!

Would that be YOU, MUNCHIE? Originally Posted by LexusLover

So flynn is guilty. Thanks for clearing that up.


According to the FBI but I'm not inclined to take the FBI's word for anything these days after the Carter Page fiasco. Have you seen the evidence that Flynn lied to the FBI or are you merely taking their word for it after having seen evidence that the original FBI agents didn't think Flynn was lying but I guess that changed when the top dogs didn't like that answer. Anybody seen those original 302's of the White House meeting with Flynn that Lisa Page had to make up even though she had no authority to do so? Then there is the point that Flynn had no good reason to lie about what he said on the phone call to the Russian Amb. because we now what he said, it's in the public record and what he said was not illegal and would never have been prosecuted had he not lied about it. Maybe he'll tell us why someday.


As for the rest of it, The owner's attorney's statement is nothing more than that. A statement. It carries no more weight than anyone else's statement at this point.



It is Bobulinski's testimony that is carrying weight now. Whether it will be enough to bring a prosecution of either Hunter or Joe, I do not know but it sounded like the crime of influence peddling to me. You might think so to if you had the guts to watch it.



Biden's signature has not been verified according to Fox.https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...-fbi-paperwork
or by the WaPo,

"The Washington Post has been unable to verify the authenticity of any of the emails published by the New York Post, and the Biden campaign has disputed the New York Post’s claims about what the emails show."

Nor have they ruled it out. They have not said "we did an exhausted comparison and found the signature not to be that of Hunter Biden". It cuts both ways. And I do not believe the Biden campaign has disputed the claims about what the e-mails show. They are either saying nothing or are saying it's all Russian disinformation.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...1be_story.html

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman View Post
It is an interview. He isn't under oath. He isn't being cross examined.


You don't have to be under oath when you talk to the FBI. Lying to the FBI is a crime, period. You seem to be suggesting that the FBI doesn't cross examine/ ask questions of people who bring them evidence. Is that your position?

What are you babbling about? We were talking about Bobulinski's interview. The one you posted that I didn't read either. That wasn't with the FBI.



Kinda hard to post an interview with the FBI, right? Bobulinski was interviewed by the FBI, you would know that if you were willing to read anything other than what you want to read. The interview posted was with Fox news.


The reason there is no coverage of the story by 99% of the media is because of the letter sent by the FBI to radcliff. They have nothing to say and won't confirm or deny any info about the laptop until after the election if at all.
hhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/context/read-the-fbi-s-letter-to-sen-ron-johnson/ceb43329-a894-4c02-b5b2-5a926a6fdc5d/?itid=lk_interstitial_manual_4


Did the FBI have anything to say about Trump publicly before the media started guessing in writing what the FBI had? I'm not asking the media to draw a conclusion, I'm asking them to tell us they are investigating just like they did to Trump without the FBI telling them anything.


The New York Post on Wednesday published an article based on emails purportedly obtained from a laptop that Hunter Biden, the son of former vice president Joe Biden, had supposedly left behind for repair in a Delaware shop in April 2019. Here’s a brief explainer to help readers evaluate its significance.

What’s new?
The key thrust of the article is that an April 17, 2015, email suggests Hunter Biden arranged for a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm to meet with the then-vice president when he was in charge of U.S. policy toward Ukraine. “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure,” reads the email, supposedly written by Vadym Pozharskyi, an adviser to the board of Burisma.

Why would that be important?
Hunter Biden in 2014 became a board member of Burisma, which news reports at the time suggested was a conflict of interest, given his father’s position. The former vice president has said he did not discuss Burisma with his son.



Which is where the Bobulinski interview comes into play had you bothered to listen to it



The email is not specific about the nature of the meeting and is written in a way that it could be talking about a possible future meeting. Nevertheless, Republicans have long sought to tie Joe Biden to his son’s business interests, even launching a Senate investigation, so any indication that the vice president helped his son could be politically damaging. The New York Post claimed it was a “smoking-gun email.”


And could be true but the media has no interest in finding out if it true unlike their appetite to investigate all things Trump.


How do we know the email is authentic?
We do not.

Nor do we know it isn't which is the whole reason to investigate, duh!

The New York Post published PDF printouts of several emails allegedly taken from the laptop, but for the “smoking-gun” email, it shows only a photo made the day before the story was posted, according to Thomas Rid, the author of “Active Measures,” a book on disinformation. “There is no header information, no metadata.” The Washington Post has not been able to independently verify or authenticate these emails, as requests to make the laptop hard drive available for inspection have not been granted. The New York Post said it obtained the material from former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, a personal lawyer to President Trump.
Moreover, another alleged email published by the New York Post contradicts the notion that Hunter Biden could influence his father. “What he will do and say is out of our hands,” Hunter Biden wrote in an email that the New York Post said was sent April 13, 2014.

Which Bobulinski clears up by going to a meeting with both Hunter and Joe so the Big Guy could make the final decision without taking his son's word for it.


What does the Biden campaign say?
Andrew Bates, a campaign spokesman for Joe Biden, said a review of Biden’s schedules from 2015 finds no record of any such meeting. Officials who worked for Biden at the time told The Fact Checker that no such meeting took place.


Sure, you would expect to find a meeting that should not be happening on his schedule? Good fucking grief! Biden's staff trying to be cute, admitting there there were a few hours on Biden's schedule that day that couldn't be accounted for. Kinda like hedging one's bet, huh? "WE didn't lie, we just weren't sure what he did in those un-accounted for hours".


“I was with the vice president in all of his meetings on Ukraine,” said Michael Carpenter, Biden’s foreign policy adviser in 2015. “He never met with this guy. In fact, I had never heard of this guy until the New York Post story broke.”

And you're going to ask me of course "what reason would he have to lie", right?


The New York Post article also cites an email from Pozharskyi to Hunter Biden saying he was “going to share this information with the US embassy here in Kyiv, as well as the office of Mr Amos Hochstein in the States.”

“I know for a fact he never contacted me or my office,” said Hochstein, who at the time worked closely with Biden as special envoy and coordinator for international energy affairs. “I provided every record to the Senate investigation, and no mention of this guy was ever made, no emails, no correspondence. I know almost every player in the energy sector in Ukraine. I never met this guy.”

He was "going to share, not that he did share".


Carpenter said that the vice president wouldn’t have had a meeting with a company executive. “He was the vice president of the United States,” he said. “He met with prime ministers.”

Unless he was involved in shady deals which Bobulinski says he has evidence of. You would know that had you watched the Fox interview but you are afraid to.


This does not exclude the possibility that Biden briefly shook hands and chatted with Pozharskyi during a public event. Hunter Biden, for instance, helped arrange for a potential business partner, Jonathan Li, to shake hands with his father in the lobby of a Beijing hotel when the vice president made an official trip to China.
Pozharskyi, in the April 17 email, mentions that he spoke to Hunter “yesterday evening.” At the request of The Fact Checker, a Biden aide reviewed Biden’s schedule for April 16, 2015. The vice president gave remarks at the White House Greek Independence Day Reception, between 5 and 6 p.m., and then spoke to the Congressional Fire Services Institute Gala, from 6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m., the aide said.

What does Hunter Biden say?
Asked to verify whether the email is genuine, Hunter Biden’s attorney George Mesires told The Fact Checker: “We have no idea where this came from, and certainly cannot credit anything that Rudy Giuliani provided to the NY Post, but what I do know for certain is that this purported meeting never happened.”

And never repeated the word "no, it is not genuine". Seems like the simplest answer to me.


Are there errors in the New York Post report?
A separate article, about another email, claims that a public relations company that worked for Burisma was allowed to take part in a conference call about an upcoming visit by Joe Biden to Ukraine. But there was nothing secret about this call, and the transcript was released publicly and posted on the White House website.
More broadly, the New York Post repeats the falsehood, advanced by Trump, that the “elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company.”

That's a bit more tricky since there is ample evidence that the US government and European governments wanted the prosecutor fired but that doesn't mean Ole Joe didn't get a two-fer, two birds with one stone.


We have fact-checked this repeatedly. During President Barack Obama’s second term, Biden was in charge of the Ukraine portfolio, keeping in close touch with the country’s president, Petro Poroshenko. Biden’s brief was to sweet-talk and jawbone Poroshenko into making reforms that Ukraine’s Western benefactors wanted to see as part of Ukraine’s escape from Russia’s orbit. But the Americans saw an obstacle to reform in Viktor Shokin, the top Ukrainian prosecutor, whom the United States viewed as ineffective and beholden to Poroshenko and Ukraine’s corrupt oligarchs. In particular, Shokin had failed to pursue an investigation of the founder of Burisma, Mykola Zlochevsky.

The U.S. Embassy in Kyiv proposed that Biden, during his 2015 visit there, use a pending delivery of $1 billion of loan guarantees as leverage to force reform. Biden addressed the Ukrainian parliament, decrying the “cancer of corruption” in the country and criticizing the prosecutor’s office. During that visit, Biden privately told Poroshenko the loan guarantees would be withheld unless Shokin was replaced. After repeated calls and meetings between the two men over several months, Shokin was removed and the loan guarantees were provided.
Pavlo Klimkin, Ukrainian foreign minister from 2014 until Aug. 29, 2019, said that the firing of Shokin was universally urged by Ukraine’s benefactors. “The demand came not just from the U.S., and not just from Biden,” he said. “I heard it in every meeting with the international financial institutions, especially the IMF and World Bank. It was not just Biden. Clearly.”


You can explain it from here to Sunday, it still meets the definition of a Quid pro quo. You either do this for me/ us or you don't get the money. Kinda like what Trump did, you either do the investigation or you don't get the money except with Trump, there was no investigation of Biden and they got the money anyway. As in "no quid pro quo".


Colin H. Kahl, Biden’s national security adviser at the time, told The Fact Checker that “our policy on corruption and Shokin in Ukraine kept getting tougher across 2015, so the whole theory of the case [in the New York Post] makes no sense.”

The story in the Post is mostly about Hunter's laptop having nothing to do with the firing of the prosecutor. You are mixing apples and oranges.


Why is this coming out now?
Good question. The FBI supposedly obtained the hard drive earlier this year from John MacIsaac, who said he owns the Wilmington Mac Shop.

MacIsaac told reporters on Wednesday that a MacBook laptop was dropped off at his shop in Wilmington, Del., in April 2019. MacIsaac, who said he was legally blind, said that he was almost certain that it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer. He said that he made several attempts to get in touch with Hunter Biden but the equipment was still in his hands 90 days after it had been left there, and he said that he became curious about what he’d seen.
He made a copy of the hard drive and gave it to Giuliani. This past weekend, Giuliani passed a copy to the New York Post. But presumably the laptop would have been of use to the year-long Senate investigation, which found no wrongdoing by Biden.


It is my understanding that the Senate report knew nothing of the laptop so couldn't have included it in their report and you conveniently left out that he made a copy and gave it to Guiliani only after not hearing anything from the FBI who he gave it to after rejecting it but when the story got hot, went back for it and figured it was "another" cover up attempt by the FBI which we now know has been going on ever since the day Comey left and Wray took over.


As Giuliani has sought to locate information about Hunter Biden and Ukraine, he has regularly interacted with a Ukrainian lawmaker who was recently sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department as being an “active Russian agent for over a decade” and was engaged in an influence operation to affect the 2020 election. Those interactions have given rise to fears that the emails could be part of a broader disinformation campaign.


"Could be" being the key words. One more reason for further investigation that Dem's and the media do not want to do unlike Trump.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-an-explainer/


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/feds-examining-if-alleged-hunter-biden-emails-are-linked-foreign-n1243620

More than 50 former senior intelligence officials have signed on to a letter outlining their belief that the recent disclosure of emails allegedly belonging to Joe Biden’s son “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...disinfo-430276

They don't say it is Russian


Of course they don't because they know that would be a lie or they simple don't know at all but want to leave the impression they, the big shots, ought to know even if they don't have the proof, which they do not and openly admit they do not.




Yes, I know the FBI has the laptop. The emails being shown around are not the originals. The FBI has all that. Since Dec. of 2019 was it? Would the FBI sit on actionable info all that time?


If they are as corrupt as I believe them to be. Not to long ago you would have asked "would the council for the FBI change the wording of an official document to further the investigation into Carter Page and lie to the FISA court"? The answer to that is yes, that happened.


Only if there was an active investigation going on. Which you won't know anything about.


And neither do you but word has leaked from the FBI and DOJ that a criminal investigation into Hunter has been opened and if the Bobulinski material is pertinent to that case, Joe Biden is dead meat and could very well be looking at being impeached before his first hundred days in office which would suit the radical left just fine. They would rather have the most left leaning Senator in the Senate to be President anyway.


And congrats. You're the only trumpy who knows why flynn is guilty of the crime he pled guilty to. Per you; ("you don't have to be under oath when you talk to the FBI. Lying to the FBI is a crime, period.


Been saying that since day one. He lied, I just can't figure out why since he did nothing prosecutable other than lying that he didn't discuss sanctions with the Russian Amb., something an incoming National Security Adviser had the right to do. I don't know of a single official who has said that without the lie, Flynn would have been prosecuted for violating the Logan Act which is what their objection was based on.


You seem to be suggesting that the FBI doesn't cross examine/ ask questions of people who bring them evidence. Is that your position?")


My position is the same as yours in this case. Lying to the FBI is a crime. Period. It seems strange you're afraid to tell that to your trumpy-flynn supporters.

Afraid? I've probably said it a dozen times in the many threads I have discussed it in. I'm not responsible for what others believe. I'm not the leader of the pack here, though I wouldn't turn down the job if offered.





You're so locked into your "their side" evidence that you won't read the info I posted. Because you're "afraid to".


I just read everything you posted and commented line by line dumbass. See, that's the difference between you and me. You admitted you are to afraid to watch the Bobuilinski interview while I fear nothing, certainly not somebody else opinions. I'll debate you till the cow's come home.



No big deal because it is now easily accessible if needed.


Accessible if "I" need it Should the Biden's end up prosecuted for influence peddling.


Why do you think Pelosi and Mnuchin have been negotiating all this time? It is for a stimulus. Because the recovery so far is "not enough". You seem to be one of the few that don't know that. The sticking point isn't that it isn't needed. It is over how much.


As I pointed out in another post, it is not merely about how much, it is about what the money can be spent on like giving illegals $1200 and giving the right to those who have been deported to come back and make their case at the expense of the American taxpayer and a myriad of other stupid things that have no business in a stimulus package affected by Covid.


In case you have forgotten what this is about, you know nothing more about the facts of the actual content than they knew Oct. 21 (the FBI letter)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/conte...itial_manual_4 Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

Nor do you. We are simply two onlookers giving our opinions, nothing more nothing less. You just seem to do it with anger and hostility to anybody that would dare question your interpretation of the issue. Me, I'm cool as a cucumber!


FYI for those trying to follow along, I had to change some of Muncie's words to Blue and mine are in Black.

BoBo Belinsky's testimony that is carrying weight now ??

What weight ?

The election is Over !!

You are operating from a stance of Trump in the White House and with a Senate Majority.

Those days are already Over.

This is not going Anywhere !

Most elections it is "It's the Economy Stupid"

This election it is "It's the Virus Stupid".

This election is not about a laptop of screwy provenance.

This is Friday before the election Tuesday !! It's too late.

BoBo Belinsky's testimony that is carrying weight now ??

What weight ?

The election is Over !!

You are operating from a stance of Trump in the White House and with a Senate Majority.

Those days are already Over.

This is not going Anywhere !

Most elections it is "It's the Economy Stupid"

This election it is "It's the Virus Stupid".

This election is not about a laptop of screwy provenance.

This is Friday before the election Tuesday !! It's too late. Originally Posted by sportfisherman

Yep....my right wing friends are grasping for dildo's once again.

BoBo Belinsky's testimony that is carrying weight now ??

What weight ?

The election is Over !!

You are operating from a stance of Trump in the White House and with a Senate Majority.

Those days are already Over.

This is not going Anywhere !

Most elections it is "It's the Economy Stupid"

This election it is "It's the Virus Stupid".

This election is not about a laptop of screwy provenance.

This is Friday before the election Tuesday !! It's too late. Originally Posted by sportfisherman

I believe it is carrying weight and this of course is just my opinion, because it is a backup to the laptop. As a matter of fact, I think it has surpassed in importance to the laptop. The laptop is an easy target for "Russian disinformation" BS which you'll be happy to know 51% of Americans apparently accept as truth. The other 49 are apparently watching Fox News.


One can postulate how the Russians could manipulate a laptop, alter e-mails but a respected person in the business community, a family of veterans, all proud to have served their countrtry who can corroborate what is on the laptop with his own documents and recordings, that adds weight to just the laptop in my opinion.


This whole story can come down to one thing and if Bobulinski can prove that, maybe just maybe more people will take notice and start to wonder if all this is really true which I happen to believe is true.


If Joe Biden had nothing to do with Hunter's deals, why would Joe Biden ask to meet Bobulinski? Twice. If Bobulinski can put himself in the same room with Joe, Hunter and James, now you have something. You have proof that Joe Biden lied about knowing what Hunter was doing and once you prove that, it's 1,2,3 to proving that Joe was the mastermind behind the pay for play, influence peddling game. But I'm telling you things you didn't want to hear in the interview.


Oh, yeah, Bobulinski definitely added weight to the matter. Whether it will be enough to make a difference since it appears the entire Deep State including the 50 former Intelligence people and the majority of the MSM, are in on playing this story down in order to help Biden win, could possibly face impeachment if the FBI has so much evidence that they can no longer hide it.


Maybe, just maybe after Trump is ousted, the media won't care any more and would be willing to then investigate because if Biden goes down, who cares? Commala takes over. Biden said he is just a place holder for the next generation of Democrats but I'll bet he wasn't counting on being taken out so early.


Just imagine the next 6 months if it becomes clear to everybody that everything on the laptop and all of Bobulinski's testimony turns out to be true as I believe it to be.


Won't that be some fun.


And what if by May, after Biden's first hundred days, he has been unable to turn the corner on the virus and has called for more draconian measures and the people say "fuck that" and revolt? Just how long will Joe Biden get to prove he was the better choice? But it won't matter will it because nothing matters but getting rid of Trump even if we fall into a great depression.


Oh and Tucker reported to night that he has definite word that the FBI has now opened a criminal investigation of Hunter Biden. Maybe the laptop wasn't enough to convince them but add Bobulinski to the mix and you just might have a whole different story. Will it be to late for the election, probably but I'll settle for impeachment as a runner up prize.

Let us recall; the FBI has been investigating shady deals around the globe, revolving around Humter and Joe-entia's business partners for at least a year or two - resulting in prison terms for three of their associates. So the now fully vetted and verified emails, just go on top of the mountain of evidence.


Report: Forensic Analysis Shows ‘Smoking Gun’ Hunter Biden Email Is ‘Unquestionably’ Legit

A forensic analysis reportedly concluded this week that an April 2015 email suggesting Hunter Biden introduced his then-vice president father to an executive at the corruption-linked Ukrainian gas conglomerate Burisma is authentic.

The April 2015 message — which lies at the heart of the bombshell emails obtained by the New York Post, purportedly from a laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter — suggests Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden likely lied about not being involved with his son’s overseas business dealings, described as shady by critics...

But wait! There's more...


Report: Second Hunter Biden Laptop Seized by DEA

A second laptop belonging to Hunter Biden, son of former Vice President Joe Biden, was reportedly seized in February during a raid on a psychiatrist by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA). Hunter Biden was reportedly not the target of the raid.

NBC News first reported the best Friday afternoon at the end of an article in which it defended its reporting — or lack thereof — about the emails on an abandoned laptop, which purportedly connect Joe Biden to his son’s businesses...


Seems that narrative the Hunter is an honorable man is looking pretty weak.

Seems that narrative the Hunter is an honorable man is looking pretty weak. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Honorable men do not get kicked out of the Service for drug use. Most get BCDs... Biden managed to get an admin discharge because of Daddy.

The boy is what passes for a man with the left. He may be grown, but he's never taken responsibility for anything he's ever done. He's a boy.

This isnt over by a long shot , the only hope the Cr**khead has is daddy winning

This dude has more laptops than a WalMarts, right guys?

Maybe Tucker Carlson will be able to hang on to this one!

I hear egg is good for the skin. You should all be looking younger now!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!

Dream on in Fantasyland !!

Any impeachment charges arise in the House. (Democrats)

Impeachment cases are tried in the Senate (More Democrats)

Honorable men do not get kicked out of the Service for drug use. Most get BCDs... Biden managed to get an admin discharge because of Daddy.

The boy is what passes for a man with the left. He may be grown, but he's never taken responsibility for anything he's ever done. He's a boy. Originally Posted by texassapper

Sounds like Trump.

Just brilliant ,

This thread may need to be closed due to it's irrelevance !!

A laptop ?

Hunter Biden ?

Rudy G. ?

Ukrainian Spies ?

BoBo Belinsky ??

A new administration headed by Biden ?

A House full of Democrats ?

A Senate full of Democrats ?

Right !!

Lemme see if'n I got this correctly; some pedestrian says this thread should be closed and there is no reason to bother voting because they have already declared who the winner will be, as it's over already. Probably be wrong to hope they try crossing an 8 lane highway at night, on foot.