Elon’s Epstein Island Update

If Trump is guilty and there is evidence in the Epstein files, why did Biden and Kamala not release them? Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Because "trump is guilty" has never meant anything to MAGA. His supporters are in a cult, and he is Dear Leader. All the evidence in the world wouldn't mean shit.

Why is MAGA suddenly no longer interested in the Epstein files after foaming at the mouths over it for years? Because Dear Leader called it a "hoax". That's why. Cults have never felt the need to make sense.

Because "trump is guilty" has never meant anything to MAGA. His supporters are in a cult, and he is Dear Leader. All the evidence in the world wouldn't mean shit.

Why is MAGA suddenly no longer interested in the Epstein files after foaming at the mouths over it for years? Because Dear Leader called it a "hoax". That's why. Cults have never felt the need to make sense. Originally Posted by tommy156

You still can’t give a logical answer to the question.

If Trump is guilty and part of the Epstein files why did Biden and Kamala not release them vs trying lawfare, bankrupt Trump, imprisonment, etc?

If they had the smoking gun on Trump it would have been released dude.

Get out of your bubble for 10 seconds.

"trump is guilty" meaning nothing to MAGA is a fact. These are the same people who sane-wash every one of his crimes.

Let the record show that Timmy cannot answer the question.

It would shoot a hole in his TDS and that’s not allowed.

For the record, who's Timmy?

For the record, who's Timmy? Originally Posted by HDGristle

Good question.

Is Timmy in the room with us right now?

You still can’t give a logical answer to the question.

If Trump is guilty and part of the Epstein files why did Biden and Kamala not release them vs trying lawfare, bankrupt Trump, imprisonment, etc?

If they had the smoking gun on Trump it would have been released dude.

Get out of your bubble for 10 seconds. Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

The problem for Trump is that his name is probably peppered throughout the Epstein files. The same for individuals who the Democrats would not want to be associated with Epstein. That’s why the democrats never released the full documents. Without enough proof of wrongdoing to bring to a grand jury releasing the names would just bring on a witch hunt and accusations from Trump of election tampering. The current issue of the Epstein files is purely a problem created by MAGA for MAGA.

Take a look at https://archive.ph/chDO9

An Accuser’s Story Suggests How Trump Might Appear in the Epstein Files
A former Jeffrey Epstein employee said that she told the F.B.I. in 1996 and 2006 about what she considered a troubling encounter with Donald J. Trump.

It was the summer of 1996 when Maria Farmer went to law enforcement to complain about Jeffrey Epstein.

At the time, she said, she had been sexually assaulted by Mr. Epstein and his longtime partner, Ghislaine Maxwell. Ms. Farmer, then in her mid-20s, had also learned about a troubling encounter that her younger sister — then a teenager — had endured at Mr. Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico. And she described facing threats from Mr. Epstein.

Ms. Farmer said that when she discussed her concerns with the New York Police Department, then with the F.B.I., she also urged them to take a broader look at the people in Mr. Epstein’s orbit, including Donald J. Trump, then still two decades from being elected president. She repeated that message, she said, when the F.B.I. interviewed her again about Mr. Epstein in 2006.

Her account is among the clearest indications yet of how Mr. Trump might have come to be named in the unreleased investigative files in the Epstein case, a matter that has generated another political uproar in recent weeks.

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‘She’s Not Here for You’

The encounter with Mr. Trump, Ms. Farmer said, occurred in 1995 as she was preparing to work for Mr. Epstein. She said she told the authorities that late one night, Mr. Epstein unexpectedly called her to his offices in a luxury building in Manhattan, and she arrived in running shorts.

Mr. Trump then arrived, wearing a business suit, and started to hover over her, she said she told the authorities.

Ms. Farmer said she recalled feeling scared as Mr. Trump stared at her bare legs. Then Mr. Epstein entered the room, and she recalled him saying to Mr. Trump: “No, no. She’s not here for you.”

The two men left the room, and Ms. Farmer said she could hear Mr. Trump commenting that he thought Ms. Farmer was 16 years old.

Click the link above to read the full article. There is a lot more information available.

We can agree to disagree.

If the Epstein files have information showing Trump in a guilty light they would have been released. The Dems would have done anything for Trump not to win in 2024 and we saw lots of it.

The problem for Trump is that his name is probably peppered throughout the Epstein files. The same for individuals who the Democrats would not want to be associated with Epstein. That’s why the democrats never released the full documents. Without enough proof of wrongdoing to bring to a grand jury releasing the names would just bring on a witch hunt and accusations from Trump of election tampering. The current issue of the Epstein files is purely a problem created by MAGA for MAGA.

Take a look at https://archive.ph/chDO9

An Accuser’s Story Suggests How Trump Might Appear in the Epstein Files
A former Jeffrey Epstein employee said that she told the F.B.I. in 1996 and 2006 about what she considered a troubling encounter with Donald J. Trump.

It was the summer of 1996 when Maria Farmer went to law enforcement to complain about Jeffrey Epstein.

At the time, she said, she had been sexually assaulted by Mr. Epstein and his longtime partner, Ghislaine Maxwell. Ms. Farmer, then in her mid-20s, had also learned about a troubling encounter that her younger sister — then a teenager — had endured at Mr. Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico. And she described facing threats from Mr. Epstein.

Ms. Farmer said that when she discussed her concerns with the New York Police Department, then with the F.B.I., she also urged them to take a broader look at the people in Mr. Epstein’s orbit, including Donald J. Trump, then still two decades from being elected president. She repeated that message, she said, when the F.B.I. interviewed her again about Mr. Epstein in 2006.

Her account is among the clearest indications yet of how Mr. Trump might have come to be named in the unreleased investigative files in the Epstein case, a matter that has generated another political uproar in recent weeks.

…

‘She’s Not Here for You’

The encounter with Mr. Trump, Ms. Farmer said, occurred in 1995 as she was preparing to work for Mr. Epstein. She said she told the authorities that late one night, Mr. Epstein unexpectedly called her to his offices in a luxury building in Manhattan, and she arrived in running shorts.

Mr. Trump then arrived, wearing a business suit, and started to hover over her, she said she told the authorities.

Ms. Farmer said she recalled feeling scared as Mr. Trump stared at her bare legs. Then Mr. Epstein entered the room, and she recalled him saying to Mr. Trump: “No, no. She’s not here for you.”

The two men left the room, and Ms. Farmer said she could hear Mr. Trump commenting that he thought Ms. Farmer was 16 years old.

Click the link above to read the full article. There is a lot more information available. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

you left out the next paragraph ...


After her encounter with Mr. Trump, Ms. Farmer said, she had no other alarming interactions with him, and did not see him engage in inappropriate conduct with girls or women.


there is no client list and if anything salacious that was in any data the DOJ has on Trump it would have been used to prevent Trump from running again. No way Biden and the Dem's DON'T use it against Trump.

you left out the next paragraph ...


After her encounter with Mr. Trump, Ms. Farmer said, she had no other alarming interactions with him, and did not see him engage in inappropriate conduct with girls or women.


there is no client list and if anything salacious that was in any data the DOJ has on Trump it would have been used to prevent Trump from running again. No way Biden and the Dem's DON'T use it against Trump. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

That’s why I included the following: “Click the link above to read the full article. There is a lot more information available”. https://archive.ph/chDO9

there is no client list and if anything salacious that was in any data the DOJ has on trump it would have been used to prevent trump from running again. No way Biden and the Dem's DON'T use it against trump. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

No client list, eh? Are you sure about that this time? Then why all the salivating over it for years by MAGA? Why was it a principal campaign issue for trump? Why did Pam Bondi say she had it on her desk in February?

Are you really that gullible? Will you continue to flip flop when trump's story inevitably changes again? He keeps playing MAGA for fools, and MAGA is all too happy to go right along with him. It's sheer absurdity.

There is most definitely a client list and trump's name is most definitely on it.

Watching this clip Bill O'Reilly get fact checked in real time on Epstein facts might have been my favorite part of this weekend

https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeople...e/s/9G9ojgcz1g

I know it's from last week but was new to me and oh so glorious.

No client list, eh? Are you sure about that this time? Then why all the salivating over it for years by MAGA? Why was it a principal campaign issue for trump? Why did Pam Bondi say she had it on her desk in February?

Are you really that gullible? Will you continue to flip flop when trump's story inevitably changes again? He keeps playing MAGA for fools, and MAGA is all too happy to go right along with him. It's sheer absurdity.

There is most definitely a client list and trump's name is most definitely on it. Originally Posted by tommy156

what flip flop? i never said there was a list. here's Epstein's client list


Les Wexner


end of list

Watching this clip Bill O'Reilly get fact checked in real time on Epstein facts might have been my favorite part of this weekend

https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeople...e/s/9G9ojgcz1g

I know it's from last week but was new to me and oh so glorious. Originally Posted by HDGristle

and this shows why exactly the BIDEN Admin had all this info and didn't release it?


bahahahahaaa

what flip flop? i never said there was a list Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

But trumpy bear said there was a list. Releasing the list was a major campaign promise of his.

MAGA drooled over the prospect of releasing the list for years. Pam Bondi had it on her desk in February. Then they told us it didn't exist. Then they told us Obama and Hillary wrote the list.

I guess you missed the MAGA Triple Lindy flip flop on this issue? What will you do when they change their story again? Still believe there's no list? Lol

there is no client list and if anything salacious that was in any data the DOJ has on Trump it would have been used to prevent Trump from running again. No way Biden and the Dem's DON'T use it against Trump. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Prove to us there isn't a list.

There's surely a flight log.

..... and there's also eye-witness testimony from the girls who were at island. They are the ones who should be listened to since it's they who are making the accusations; you know the ones that put Epstein and his girlfriend in jail.

....so when you say there isn't a list, maybe you should say- there isn't likely a complete list, but the fact that those two were ever charged and in jail proves that INDEED, there is a list of one or more people who were involved with the actions and charges. To believe elsewise- it's truly astonishing that REDHATS are so gullible. There are public name lists of over 150 ppl who went to the island, including celebs and joe Shmoes.

THe lists have been created by researching civil court records, flight logs and attorneys who represent the victims, and the banks who arranged payoffs such as Deutche bank and others. To be clear- not all who are on those lists are likely guilty of the same crimes as Epstein, but the facts are clear. He didnt' get arrested for NOTHING, and plead guilty to his crimes. AND further - DJT's name DOES show up on several documents also. Also the " LIST" may not be of Epstein's creation but of the investigators who detailed the coming and going, and also the testimony that was provided when charge Maxwell and Epstein.


Trump telling Bondi- 'to release pertinent and reliable information' is completely up to Bondi on how to proceed and with allegiance to Dumb-Dumb, then she's not gonna release anything. But the truth has a nasty habit of coming out regardless.