Robert Mueller passed!!!

Bob Mueller was clearly senile when he appeared before Congress in July 2019 to explain how he came up with bupkis after a 2-year investigation into alleged Russian collusion. It was apparent that other members of his Special Counsel staff were calling the shots and Mueller was their sock-puppet. I didn't dislike the guy, I just felt sorry for him. Had he been in full control of his faculties, my expectations would have been higher. I would have expected him to come clean and say - sorry, but there is no there, there.

That said, Trump is a major league jackass for saying I'm glad he's dead. Trump was also a jackass when he said the same thing about Rob Reiner. What useful purpose was served by those Truth Social posts, other than proving Trump is a major league jackass? There is a time to fight, fight, fight and a time to stfu and let the dead RIP.

I hate to break it to you but that’s Trump and the MAGA playbook. And he applies it to his own party just as much as to his political opponents.

Oppose him or the party and you become the enemy. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

and i hate to break it to you but stop with the blinders tex,

the libs eat their own all the time and anyone who doesnt follow the party line, same is true of the woke libs in hollywood

and i hate to break it to you but stop with the blinders tex,

the libs eat their own all the time and anyone who doesnt follow the party line, same is true of the woke libs in hollywood Originally Posted by oldman2525

I will admit that like all human beings those that identify as liberals can be as judgmental as anyone else. What happened to Al Franken is a case in point.

But Donald Trump and his Acolytes have taken things to the extreme in both tone and actions. The level of political violence escalated after the 2016 election cycle. That’s not a coincidence it’s a direct result of Donald Trump’s violent political rhetoric.

“Donald Trump has normalized political violence through his aggressive rhetoric, which often includes threats and dehumanizing language directed at opponents. This has contributed to a culture where violent actions are increasingly seen as acceptable responses to political grievances, reflecting a broader breakdown in democratic norms.”

https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2023/10...nce-in-america

Is Donald Trump normalizing political violence in America?

When Donald Trump suggested that General Mark Milley should be executed, it was the latest in a long line of violent rhetoric from the former President.

"When Mr. Trump says something through social media or at his rallies that deprecates another person names another person, those people then get threatened. They get threatened with violence," Mary McCord says.

"Their families get threatened for violence."

No way you, or whoever you copy/pasta’d those paragraphs from, wrote them with a straight face.

But Donald Trump and his Acolytes have taken things to the extreme in both tone and actions. The level of political violence escalated after the 2016 election cycle. That’s not a coincidence it’s a direct result of Donald Trump’s violent political rhetoric.

“Donald Trump has normalized political violence through his aggressive rhetoric, which often includes threats and dehumanizing language directed at opponents. This has contributed to a culture where violent actions are increasingly seen as acceptable responses to political grievances, reflecting a broader breakdown in democratic norms." Originally Posted by txdot-guy

GTFOH TxDot. The left normalizes violence at this point and you have the judicial system largely in place to turn a blind eye to the criminals and blame the victims. Mueller and his fake Russian case on Trump didn’t help.

Since 2016, left-wing political violence and extremism in the US have increased measurably, especially in riots, property damage, and plots targeting symbols of authority or conservatives.Key data points:CSIS tracking shows left-wing attacks/plots rising from ~1.3 per year (2001–2015) to ~4 annually (2016–2024), with further upticks in 2025.

2020 George Floyd protests/riots caused $1–2 billion in insured damages, dozens of deaths linked, and sustained anarchist/Antifa actions (e.g., Portland).

Notable examples:Widespread 2020 riots with Antifa involvement and organized funding for activist networks.

Heightened anti-Trump rhetoric coinciding with two 2024 assassination attempts on Trump (perpetrators with mixed/anti-Trump signals).

Increased street-level clashes, campus disruptions, and anti-government extremism.

GTFOH TxDot. The left normalizes violence at this point and you have the judicial system largely in place to turn a blind eye to the criminals and blame the victims. Mueller and his fake Russian case on Trump didn’t help.

Since 2016, left-wing political violence and extremism in the US have increased measurably, especially in riots, property damage, and plots targeting symbols of authority or conservatives.Key data points:CSIS tracking shows left-wing attacks/plots rising from ~1.3 per year (2001–2015) to ~4 annually (2016–2024), with further upticks in 2025.

2020 George Floyd protests/riots caused $1–2 billion in insured damages, dozens of deaths linked, and sustained anarchist/Antifa actions (e.g., Portland).

Notable examples:Widespread 2020 riots with Antifa involvement and organized funding for activist networks.

Heightened anti-Trump rhetoric coinciding with two 2024 assassination attempts on Trump (perpetrators with mixed/anti-Trump signals).

Increased street-level clashes, campus disruptions, and anti-government extremism. Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

The common denominator between your argument and mine is the entry of Donald Trump into the political arena in 2016.

Is the liberal left really that violent or are they just reacting to the violent rhetoric bandied about by Trump and the right wing media sphere?

Conservatives need to take responsibility for their part in the rise of political violence not just blame the opposing party.

The common denominator between your argument and mine is the entry of Donald Trump into the political arena in 2016.

Is the liberal left really that violent or are they just reacting to the violent rhetoric bandied about by Trump and the right wing media sphere?

Conservatives need to take responsibility for their part in the rise of political violence not just blame the opposing party. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Do you realize how outright woke that statement is?

U r saying violent rhetoric is a justifiable reason for violence by the left?

One is words.... that can only hurt feelings, ahh poor babies

The other is physical violence which can cause death

And thats ur excuse?

What the fuck is wrong with liberals..... i think mommy coddled u guys too much

Again. What the fuck

You think it's all just rhetoric on the right, and the violence is only coming from the left? WTF planet have you been living on for the past decade?

Do you realize how outright woke that statement is?

U r saying violent rhetoric is a justifiable reason for violence by the left?

One is words.... that can only hurt feelings, ahh poor babies

The other is physical violence which can cause death

And thats ur excuse?

What the fuck is wrong with liberals..... i think mommy coddled u guys too much

Again. What the fuck Originally Posted by oldman2525

I’m saying violence begets violence. There has been plenty of violence to go around on both sides since 2016. It’s the lack of civility by our leaders both political and civilian that is pushing the violence. It’s up to the President to cool things down. Good luck getting Trump to do anything like that.

P.S. Your own language in this post is insulting and violent in its own right.

You think it's all just rhetoric on the right, and the violence is only coming from the left? WTF planet have you been living on for the past decade? Originally Posted by jayzee43

He’s been living on planet blinders for a while now.

I’m saying violence begets violence. There has been plenty of violence to go around on both sides since 2016. It’s the lack of civility by our leaders both political and civilian that is pushing the violence. It’s up to the President to cool things down. Good luck getting Trump to do anything like that.

P.S. Your own language in this post is insulting and violent in its own right.

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Ur last sentence just proved my point. Woke as hell

What the fuck is wrong with liberals..... i think mommy coddled u guys too much

Again. What the fuck Originally Posted by oldman2525

Ur last sentence just proved my point. Woke as hell Originally Posted by oldman2525

And I think your previous post proves my point. Stop the victimhood nonsense and take responsibility for your own language and actions. Because what you’ve written is the very example of the type of violent rhetoric we’re talking about.

how many you had tonight eye?

you guys are pathetic, where was all this when charlie kirk was murdered?

pathetic

like i said, liberals are the most tolerent people on earth...............as long as you agree with them Originally Posted by oldman2525

I felt the same way about Charlie Kirk as I did Alex Pretti and Renee Good. Three people who I didn't know and never heard of, who were tragically murdered. What do they have to do with Trump's hateful statement?

how many you had tonight eye?

you guys are pathetic, where was all this when charlie kirk was murdered?

pathetic

like i said, liberals are the most tolerent people on earth...............as long as you agree with them Originally Posted by oldman2525

Well this thread is about Mueller and So I don't see the connection regarding Chaz Kirk. (Plus I never said anything about him after he passed.) I think thou protest too much and are derailing the convo.

And I think your previous post proves my point. Stop the victimhood nonsense and take responsibility for your own language and actions. Because what you’ve written is the very example of the type of violent rhetoric we’re talking about. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Violent.....lmfao

Grow up ....