Odds on Trump's Impeachment

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Come on garhkal, you've been online quite a bit but for some reason can't address my question.


Okay, I have a question for you. But first a little bit about myself.

I am a registered Republican and have been since I was first able to vote, which I believe was 1968. I have voted for every Republican candidate for POTUS from that time until 2008 when the economy crumbled while George Bush was in office (and I don't want to go into whether or not it was his fault) and the Republican party gave the American people a ticket of McCain/Palin. I was never fond of McCain, but Sarah Palin was an insult so I voted for the Democratic candidate for the first time in my life. The stock market soared during Obama's first term in office, which was of utmost important to me with impending retirement, so I voted for him again in 2012. And, despite my dislike for Hillary Clinton, I personally considered her a better option for this country than Donald Trump. But I certainly can accept why people would vote for Trump over Clinton

So, with that said, I would like to know why you make this statement about me personally:

"Their talking points are directly from the Democrat's propoganda. I hear the same bullshit no matter what Democrat I talk to. They clearly have no understanding of what they are proffering."

Exactly what "bullshit" are you referring to? And I'd appreciate it if you would reference specific posts I've made so I'm 100% certain where you have problems with my opinions.
Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

That stock market increase that you wanted so much....quantitative easing or a transfer of over 3 trillion from the regular taxpayers to the stock market most of which went to people who don't worry about their retirements. So thanks us the taxpayers next time you go out for pizza or visit your vacation cabin. We helped make it possible for you to retire and make the guys on Wall Street richer.
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That stock market increase that you wanted so much....quantitative easing or a transfer of over 3 trillion from the regular taxpayers to the stock market most of which went to people who don't worry about their retirements. So thanks us the taxpayers next time you go out for pizza or visit your vacation cabin. We helped make it possible for you to retire and make the guys on Wall Street richer. Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
What are you talking about??? What has the rise in the stock market over the last 8 years have to do with my question addressed to garhkal?
Business Conflicts or Russian Collusion

Anyone wanna predict how long till he is impeached and removed from office?

I say within 2nd year if that.

Anyone think he will be impeached but remain in office? Originally Posted by grean
If the two jackasses before him were never impeached, what makes you think Trump will be?


Jim
You really want news, the USA is no longer the Leader of the free world. Thanks DJT Originally Posted by themystic

Tsk, tsk, tsk.....you've made that same statement per this thread (or others...can't recall) before, Mystic.

Again....pray tell....if the United States of America is NOT the leader of the free world as you claim...which nation(s) has moved to the front? Which country...and it's current leadership...is the lead dog?
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Tsk, tsk, tsk.....you've made that same statement per this thread (or others...can't recall) before, Mystic.

Again....pray tell....if the United States of America is NOT the leader of the free world as you claim...which nation(s) has moved to the front? Which country...and it's current leadership...is the lead dog? Originally Posted by Chateau Becot
I dont know. There is a void. Our values have changed. We may be the baddest dude on the block still, but we are now just a big bully. Whats next, do you want to take down the Statue of Liberty. Or maybe Trump can build a better one, ( with his branding of course). DJT has taked 80 years of diplomacy and thrown it in the toilet
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I dont know. There is a void. Our values have changed. We may be the baddest dude on the block still, but we are now just a big bully. Whats next, do you want to take down the Statue of Liberty. Or maybe Trump can build a better one, ( with his branding of course). DJT has taked 80 years of diplomacy and thrown it in the toilet Originally Posted by themystic
It's the dim-retards that are tearing down statues, the mistake.
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It's the dim-retards that are tearing down statues, the mistake. Originally Posted by I B Hankering
They built 'em they own them.

https://yournews.com/2017/05/30/1517...e-confederacy/
They built 'em they own them.

https://yournews.com/2017/05/30/1517...e-confederacy/ Originally Posted by bamscram

Careful, careful.....if stories like this get out SissyChaps might very possibly stroke out on us. Can't have that.....we need that comedic rhetoric of our fave race-baiting homeboy to remind us all of the greatness that was once Barry Hussein's.

Speaking of this article...what's next, ladies and gents? Where does erasing history in this country end?

What about removing other offensive reminders of days of slavery (or those who fought to keep it during the American Civil War)? There's plenty of targets, that's for sure.....

How about we start by plowing up Cedar Hill Cemetery (Vicksburg, MS) where some 5,000 graves of Confederate soldiers are resting? I'm sure some libturd politician could make that happen. And get that land zoned for something really useful....like more government housing.
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Careful, careful.....if stories like this get out SissyChaps might very possibly stroke out on us. Can't have that.....we need that comedic rhetoric of our fave race-baiting homeboy to remind us all of the greatness that was once Barry Hussein's.

Speaking of this article...what's next, ladies and gents? Where does erasing history in this country end?

What about removing other offensive reminders of days of slavery (or those who fought to keep it during the American Civil War)? There's plenty of targets, that's for sure.....

How about we start by plowing up Cedar Hill Cemetery (Vicksburg, MS) where some 5,000 graves of Confederate soldiers are resting? I'm sure some libturd politician could make that happen. And get that land zoned for something really useful....like more government housing. Originally Posted by Chateau Becot

One of the problems with the GOHP is that you all seem to think one size fits all. Ill say for the hundreth time, Im a moderate liberal. I dont like the far left anymore than I like the far right. You remember who the GOHPs number two choice was? Ted Cruz! Talk about extremists. Yall are the ones with extremist views. We do need to honor our past, but we dont need to glorify the hateful aspects. Im not asking to remove history, but why does this administration want to move backwards. " Good old days syndrone"..... "When a Ford and Chevy would last 10 years like they should, are the good times really over for good". Give me a break. These are the best times in this History of the World. While Mr Money Bags Trump fleeces the people he preaches a message of hate and lack. I aint buying it

Trying to compare Lincolns Republican Party to Trumps? Your kidding right?
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One of the problems with the GOHP is that you all seem to think one size fits all. Ill say for the hundreth time, Im a moderate liberal. I dont like the far left anymore than I like the far right. You remember who the GOHPs number two choice was? Ted Cruz! Talk about extremists. Yall are the ones with extremist views. We do need to honor our past, but we dont need to glorify the hateful aspects. Im not asking to remove history, but why does this administration want to move backwards. " Good old days syndrone"..... "When a Ford and Chevy would last 10 years like they should, are the good times really over for good". Give me a break. These are the best times in this History of the World. While Mr Money Bags Trump fleeces the people he preaches a message of hate and lack. I aint buying it

Trying to compare Lincolns Republican Party to Trumps? Your kidding right? Originally Posted by themystic
A better analogy would be comparing Kennedy's party to Obamas. Most modern Democrats definition of a "extreme" conservative view is pretty laughable. Kennedy would be considered "extreme" by modern Liberals standards.

We are living in a time where manly Liberals consider not having a open border policy and deporting illegal aliens is extreme.
Many Liberals think having to pay for their own college loans and health insurance is extreme.
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A better analogy would be comparing Kennedy's party to Obama's. Most modern Democrats' definition of an "extreme" conservative view is pretty laughable. Kennedy would be considered "extreme" by modern Liberals standards. Originally Posted by goodolboy
+1

Yep... JFK would be kicked off the libtard reservation today! But they don't want to talk about that, let alone admit it. Here's proof:

https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1122802
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A better analogy would be comparing Kennedy's party to Obamas. Most modern Democrats definition of a "extreme" conservative view is pretty laughable. Kennedy would be considered "extreme" by modern Liberals standards.

We are living in a time where manly Liberals consider not having a open border policy and deporting illegal aliens is extreme.
Many Liberals think having to pay for their own college loans and health insurance is extreme. Originally Posted by goodolboy
I pay taxes, lots of them. I pay health insurance. I dont owe anyone any money
Im not sure what that has to do with being a liberal.
Going back to the original topic of this thread. My opinion is that the odds of a Trump impeachment increased yesterday & today. It's sad and fascinating at the same time. As Mueller moves forward and builds a case, he now has a new piece of a puzzle. The new piece is a willingness and thirst of the Trump family and campaign to gain Clinton dirt from a Russian backchannel source. The emails even reference the presidents long time personal assistant, Rhona, to start to close the door for DJT's deniability. In addition, the cover story changing twice in two days also provides additional support that all of the Russian omissions by Trump people is much more than forgetfulness.

Mueller still needs more pieces, which he could already have, but gawd those Trump kids are dumbasses. When this is all said and done, it is going to be interesting to learn who the insider is that is playing the Trumps like this. My guess is Flynn but there must be others also.
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Keep watching, same pattern over and over, MSM has breaking news, then the facts come out and it is yet another nothing burger. The evidence is going to show this was all a set up by the DNC and Hillery to stop Trump.

"These revelations bring to light for the first time the likely involvement of Democratic operatives in fomenting the Russia-Trump collusion conspiracy theory that is now the subject of multiple Federal and Congressional investigations, which have had the (convenient) effect of slowing Trump’s legislative agenda." http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/10/ny...piracy-theory/

From this the following timeline emerges:
  • April 26th, 2016: Trump declares himself the presumptive GOP nominee.
  • April 29th, 2016: DNC learns its computer system has been breached.
  • April 30th, 2016: DNC hires CrowdStrike.
  • [Late April-Early May]: Democrats begin funding Fusion GPS.
  • May 1st, 2016: CrowdStrike determines Russia perpetrated the hack.
  • May 3rd, 2016: Reince Priebus declares Trump the presumptive GOP nominee.
  • June 9th, 2016: Don Jr. meets with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at the apparent request of a Fusion GPS operative.
  • June 14th, 2016: The DNC publicly discloses the Russia hacked its computer network.
The DNC refused to disclose that Russia hacked its computer network for a month-and-a-half, and only disclosed that fact after the Fusion GPS-brokered meeting between Don Jr. and Veselnitskaya.
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The new piece is a willingness and thirst of the Trump family and campaign to gain Clinton dirt from a Russian backchannel source. Originally Posted by futbolhead

Remember this?

"Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country. Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found" http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ackfire-233446