Tariff Man and his tariff plan cause market plunges

OK then. I think the tariffs are eating the dogs and eating the cats, too. Check with AI on that one.

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you know how everyone else can tell you are full of shit?

your comrade in hatred of trump hasn't come on here to post ur claim of 32% is correct. HD knows it's bullshit and he loves to be right. Originally Posted by oldman2525
Yeah, at least HDGristle knows enough to pick his fights carefully. Notice how he stayed out of the Minnesota Somali Fraud thread? Trying to defend the indefensible is NOT a good look. Some people get that.
And YOU would know defending the indefensible!

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whi...ariff-strategy

Well, well, well... softening his tariff strategy to focus on affordability.

Who could have predicted this outcome?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whi...ariff-strategy

Well, well, well... softening his tariff strategy to focus on affordability.

Who could have predicted this outcome? Originally Posted by HDGristle

"This indicates that on some level the White House understands that president trump’s tariffs are driving up consumer prices, and that trump and the Republican Party are incurring substantial political damage from higher prices,"



But, but...wait... I thought affordability was a "Democrat hoax"?

trump is such a fucking CLOWN
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...it/ar-AA1TFEdO

Easy to connect dots for those interested
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...it/ar-AA1TFEdO

Easy to connect dots for those interested Originally Posted by HDGristle
This just shows that the effects of tariffs (i.e. taxes) are disproportionately borne by the consumer and small businesses. Large corporations have the ability to avoid tariffs in a number of ways that small businesses can’t.
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Seems we may get a ruling from the Supremes on Fri
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Oh dear!

The Atlanta Fed just doubled its GDPNow estimate for Q4 real GDP growth from 2.7% to 5.4%!

It's beginning to look like trumpy's tariff policy is contributing to an economic boomlet at home and a dramatic shrinkage in our trade deficit vis-a-vis the rest of the world!

Both are good trends! I mean, ALL of us prefer stronger US economic growth combined with a smaller trade deficit... don't we?

Maybe tariffman knows what he's doing!


Sizzling 5.4% Growth: Atlanta Fed Doubles Q4 GDP Estimate, Signaling Unprecedented U.S. Resilience

January 08, 2026 at 17:55 PM EST

In a move that has sent shockwaves through global financial markets, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta drastically revised its GDPNow tracker for the fourth quarter of 2025. On January 8, 2026, the estimate for real GDP growth was effectively doubled, jumping from a projected 2.7% to a staggering 5.4%. This revision marks one of the most significant upward adjustments in the model's history, suggesting that the American economy is not merely avoiding a recession but is currently in the midst of a high-octane expansion that few analysts saw coming.

The immediate implications of this "sizzling" forecast are profound. With official government data currently delayed due to an ongoing federal shutdown, the Atlanta Fed’s nowcast has become the primary North Star for investors and policymakers alike. The 5.4% figure suggests that despite high interest rates and global geopolitical tensions, the U.S. consumer remains undeterred and the domestic trade balance has shifted in a way that provides a massive tailwind to national output.

The revision occurred on the morning of January 8, 2026, following a series of data releases that painted a picture of a rapidly narrowing trade deficit and robust year-end consumer activity. Just three days prior, on January 5, the GDPNow model sat at a respectable but modest 2.7%. The leap to 5.4% was primarily driven by a collapse in the U.S. trade deficit, which shrank by nearly 40% in the final months of 2025. This contraction in the deficit - the lowest level since 2009 - was fueled by a 2.6% rise in exports against a 3.2% drop in imports, a trend many economists attribute to the aggressive tariff policies implemented throughout the previous year.

This event fits into a broader trend of "economic nationalism" and the restructuring of global trade. The fact that the GDP estimate doubled largely due to a massive swing in net exports - from a -0.30 percentage point drag to a +1.97 percentage point addition - highlights how sensitive the U.S. economy has become to trade policy. Historically, GDP growth is driven by consumption; seeing such a massive contribution from the trade balance is a rare occurrence that mirrors the protectionist eras of the 20th century.

The Atlanta Fed’s doubling of the Q4 GDP estimate to 5.4% is a watershed moment for the 2026 economic outlook. It confirms that the U.S. economy possesses a level of underlying strength that has defied the gravity of high interest rates and global instability. The primary takeaways are clear: the consumer is still spending, and the narrowing trade deficit has become a powerful, if controversial, engine for growth.

https://markets.financialcontent.com...oogle_vignette
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Oh dear!

The Atlanta Fed just doubled its GDPNow estimate for Q4 real GDP growth from 2.7% to 5.4%!

It's beginning to look like trumpy's tariff policy is contributing to an economic boomlet at home and a dramatic shrinkage in our trade deficit vis-a-vis the rest of the world!

Both are good trends! I mean, ALL of us prefer stronger US economic growth combined with a smaller trade deficit... don't we?

Maybe tariffman knows what he's doing!


Sizzling 5.4% Growth: Atlanta Fed Doubles Q4 GDP Estimate, Signaling Unprecedented U.S. Resilience

January 08, 2026 at 17:55 PM EST

In a move that has sent shockwaves through global financial markets, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta drastically revised its GDPNow tracker for the fourth quarter of 2025. On January 8, 2026, the estimate for real GDP growth was effectively doubled, jumping from a projected 2.7% to a staggering 5.4%. This revision marks one of the most significant upward adjustments in the model's history, suggesting that the American economy is not merely avoiding a recession but is currently in the midst of a high-octane expansion that few analysts saw coming.

The immediate implications of this "sizzling" forecast are profound. With official government data currently delayed due to an ongoing federal shutdown, the Atlanta Fed’s nowcast has become the primary North Star for investors and policymakers alike. The 5.4% figure suggests that despite high interest rates and global geopolitical tensions, the U.S. consumer remains undeterred and the domestic trade balance has shifted in a way that provides a massive tailwind to national output.

The revision occurred on the morning of January 8, 2026, following a series of data releases that painted a picture of a rapidly narrowing trade deficit and robust year-end consumer activity. Just three days prior, on January 5, the GDPNow model sat at a respectable but modest 2.7%. The leap to 5.4% was primarily driven by a collapse in the U.S. trade deficit, which shrank by nearly 40% in the final months of 2025. This contraction in the deficit - the lowest level since 2009 - was fueled by a 2.6% rise in exports against a 3.2% drop in imports, a trend many economists attribute to the aggressive tariff policies implemented throughout the previous year.

This event fits into a broader trend of "economic nationalism" and the restructuring of global trade. The fact that the GDP estimate doubled largely due to a massive swing in net exports - from a -0.30 percentage point drag to a +1.97 percentage point addition - highlights how sensitive the U.S. economy has become to trade policy. Historically, GDP growth is driven by consumption; seeing such a massive contribution from the trade balance is a rare occurrence that mirrors the protectionist eras of the 20th century.

The Atlanta Fed’s doubling of the Q4 GDP estimate to 5.4% is a watershed moment for the 2026 economic outlook. It confirms that the U.S. economy possesses a level of underlying strength that has defied the gravity of high interest rates and global instability. The primary takeaways are clear: the consumer is still spending, and the narrowing trade deficit has become a powerful, if controversial, engine for growth.

https://markets.financialcontent.com...oogle_vignette Originally Posted by lustylad
The OP certainly looks like the fool on the hill!!!!!! He’s still saying Trumps tarriffs are bad!!!!!

BAHAHAHA
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsl...-trump-tariffs

All eyes on the Supremes and the markets today.
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https://www.barrons.com/articles/bet...riffs-1ba90930



Great article showing what traders are betting on as far as thr outcome.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsl...-trump-tariffs

All eyes on the Supremes and the markets today. Originally Posted by HDGristle
Hopefully, the beginning of the end for trump's idiotic, and wholly unnecessary, tariffs. Hopefully, laws are still laws.
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Tariffman's Treasury Secretary says the Treasury is perfectly capable of handling refunds if the Supremes strike down any tariffs.

A substantial departure from Tariffman's dool amd gloom

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...asury-refunds/