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I just checked it out to search for my old reviews and nope only 1 was still there and I had quite a few, I don't think the whole database made it

Lustfully
Nico
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  • WTF
  • 02-15-2010, 01:51 PM
Look on the bright side.

All of the inflated memories from the old P will stop.....................becau se now, we can check.

The ISO alone makes it worth it.

Too many people re-inventing themselves. Originally Posted by dearhunter
No shitttttttttttttttttt. Gotta love that some of these new Saints will get their horn's exposed if anyone care to take a peek-a-boo!



Not sure but last I checked it wasn't a either/or. I know people that post on several sites. I'll be one of them. I like this site. Liked it so much I actuall paid money to join it. I liked the other too.

In my view double dealing moderation is what drives people from one site to another. Competition should be good for posters in that regard. Let's hope they do not share moderators!

It appears I am more Polyamorous than I thought! LOL




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However, with their history of lack of planning, I would just be hesitant to make the recommendation to anyone to "try again." Originally Posted by ferdburf
Why are you projecting the actions of someone deceased onto her family members and friends?

How are the actions of someone deceased relevant to the credibility of Deuce or Angelimnot?

My family has no input on my estate planning. Nor do I have any on that of my Mother who will be leaving behind quite a mess of her own by her refusal to deal with her own mortality.

You state that "since Angelimnot blasted me as a classless jerk (in this thread, which she later deleted), I doubt I'd be welcome on that board anyway.....

I didn't see that post but let me officially 2nd that opinion..... Your consistent bashing of how someone deceased screwed you over and how you feel their surviving family should cowtow and kiss your ass in some manner is definitely without class....
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In my view double dealing moderation is what drives people from one site to another. Competition should be good for posters in that regard. Let's hope they do not share moderators! Originally Posted by WTF
Amen.... There is no way anybody can take the time to handle more than one of these sites nor do I believe they can switch hats from one site to the other where sites have different philosophies....
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Why are you projecting the actions of someone deceased onto her family members and friends?
How are the actions of someone deceased relevant to the credibility of Deuce or Angelimnot? Originally Posted by Whispers
Because plans for a family business should be talked about in advance, if it's desired that the business enterprise be ongoing, especially when it's known that the family member/owner is dying.

My family has no input on my estate planning. Nor do I have any on that of my Mother who will be leaving behind quite a mess of her own by her refusal to deal with her own mortality. Originally Posted by Whispers
Then your family will benefit/suffer by solely your/your mother's planning.


I didn't see that post but let me officially 2nd that opinion..... Your consistent bashing of how someone deceased screwed you over and how you feel their surviving family should cowtow and kiss your ass in some manner is definitely without class.... Originally Posted by Whispers
The post is above in this same thread. However, Angelimnot deleted her post after my response was posted. Since most everything I've said on this matter is contained in this thread, I'll invite you to find one single sentence that suggests "bashing" or that it's my feeling that the "surviving family should cowtow and kiss my ass."

Class, like beauty, is in the eyes of the beholder. I've got my opinions regarding class, but I think it's probably more important to stick to facts here.

Thanks for your response, Whispers!
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I thinck ferd would be surprised at how tolerent they would be if he chose to pop in.

After all, he put in the time to add information to the old P.

I would hope they prove to be as tolerent as TBone.

Although, I suspect that there are questions you can ask around here that would get you a "none of your business" response.........rightly so.

If ferd choses not to pay to be on that sight, who is whispers to judge that.

If ferd choses not to trust the new ownership, that is his right as well.

But, let's be honest. What he is really trying to do is goad them into responding in this thread............he is beating this horse too hard for it to be otherwise.....and whispers is not helping.

But, that is his right too.

If he really had questions he wanted answered he would go over there and ask.
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DH, you're not going to delete your post if I respond to it, are ya, bud? Kinda leaves one hangin, and not in a good way.

I'm sure the mods on the E (is it the "E," if it's not the P or the Y?) are fair and considerate people. I have nothing but glowing things to say about mods on the former P, the E, and here. They've got a tough job as I see it, and they do a stellar job.

Regarding my trying to goad anyone into responding to this thread, listen up! I ain't joining ERAPS, end of story; I ain't responding to (nor starting) any more posts about "that other woman" known as ERAPS. If you want to, have at it.
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To be clear, ASPD was closed as a result of the outing of ownership's family members. That despicable act, clearly intended to close ASPD, was the only conspiracy involved in the closing of ASPD. The scumbag or scumbags responsible for that despicable act of outing would be alone in any attempt to "hoodwink" anyone.

Quite frankly, there were those of us in the community, both on and off the staff at ASPD then or ERAPS now, that were not willing to accept that 10 years of history, data, and effort would be lost due to the anonymous act of one or more individuals willing to do anything it took to make it go away.
Rather than accept that it would all end that way, we chose to try and do something instead of nothing. We spent the time, effort, and money to not only save the database, but to reproduce it in an updated format with different ownership, staff, and philosophy.
We chose to try and provide the information instead of letting it disappear forever.

With all due respect, there were threads on ASPD, eccie, and every other site on the procedure for contacting Verotel about requesting refunds for what was lost due to the closing of ASPD at the hands of those outing the family members of ASPD's ownership.
ERAPS doesn't claim anyone owes them anything, but it's hard for me to understand how ERAPS owes a debt to ASPD's Verotel customers. How would ERAPS verify that someone did NOT have any funds paid to Verotel refunded to them?
In any event, I've stated that any such people could contact me through ERAPS to discuss their particular situation. To this point, not a single person has contacted me.

When we began the effort to restore the database, we did not know for sure the extent to which we would be able to do it and in what form it would be. It was a difficult task and we held our breathe all along the way. That effort alone is one major difference between ERAPS and ASPD. That was something promised by ASPD for literally years that was never done.
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  • WTF
  • 02-15-2010, 03:17 PM
DH, you're not going to delete your post if I respond to it, are ya, bud? Kinda leaves one hangin, and not in a good way.
) Originally Posted by ferdburf
Do this and it don't make a fiddling fuc what they delete.

Come on ferdburf....this ain't that hard to figure if ole WTF can ace it.
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I don't know, ferd..............you are sounding kind of gay with this talk of "buttered buns"............and I promise not to delete this post. Just for you.


but, don't fret it. This board and the new one has the "Other Reviews" forum for whatever floats your boat.

...........and just to make this fun. Because, you seem to want to play.........................I agree with you. You should not join the new site.

You have nothing of value to add over there.
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Do this and it don't make a fiddling fuc what they delete.

Come on ferdburf....this ain't that hard to figure if ole WTF can ace it. Originally Posted by WTF
Hell, I'm still working on getting some class. What, you expect me to get class and intelligence all in one day?

Yeah, I've now learned to quote other people just in case they delete their nasties after I respond, whether it's on aspd/eraps or ECCIE.
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I don't know, ferd..............you are sounding kind of gay with this talk of "buttered buns"............ Originally Posted by dearhunter
You've obviously been snorkling Sophie's blue water just a tad too much, DH. I didn't say a word about "buttered buns."

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Now, that is fucking funny..............if you people did not see the humor in that, you need to go somewhere else.

Dude, I will miss you over there.............but, it is what it is.
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Sorry, but both apply: I thought it was funny . . . and I need to go somewhere else. I gotta go work on estate planning matters.
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If ferd choses not to pay to be on that sight, who is whispers to judge that. Originally Posted by dearhunter
ahh... But NOONE HAS to pay.... They have stated that they will grant 2 mnths BCD access for 1 review and will announce plans for continued earned BCD access....


If ferd choses not to trust the new ownership, that is his right as well.

But, let's be honest. What he is really trying to do is goad them into responding in this thread............he is beating this horse too hard for it to be otherwise....and whispers is not helping.

But, that is his right too.
yeah... well...... I was bored.....