Trump said he could put several blue states in play. It’s clear he can’t.

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Do the math, folks.

This is why Drumpf flip flops on his major campaign issues (other than calling HRC names) every time he takes a podium.

He's a shameless demagogue.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...clear-he-cant/

By Stuart Rothenberg August 30 at 6:00 AM

Donald Trump and his advisers said the candidate could put several Democratic-leaning states in play, but a convincing Clinton electoral win looks likely. (Chris Goodney/Bloomberg News)
For months, Donald Trump and members of his political team promised to put reliably Democratic states like New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Oregon into play. But now, with only two months until Election Day, it’s clear that those promises were empty boasts.

The presidential electoral map shows Trump losing key swing states and even barely holding on in some GOP bastions. Given the current numbers, the major question is the size of Hillary Clinton’s electoral vote victory.

Over the past 10 presidential contests, there have been three narrow Electoral College wins (1976, 2000 and 2004) and three true blow-outs (1980, 1984 and 1988). The remaining four contests (1992, 1996, 2008 and 2012) produced something in between — a comfortable victory for the winner but not quite a landslide. The winners in those four elections received between 332 and 379 electoral votes, while the losing candidate drew between 159 and 206 electoral votes. (In four of the 10, there was a faithless elector.)

At this point, Clinton is more likely to approach the size of Obama’s wins, whether his 365-to-173 electoral vote win over John McCain in 2008 or his more narrow 332-to-206 victory over Mitt Romney four years later. A 1980-style blow-out does not seem to be in the cards given the country’s current political divide or the two major-party nominees.

It was only a month ago that Paul Manafort, then-Trump’s campaign chairman, told The Washington Post’s Dan Balz and Philip Rucker, “We can carry Michigan. We can compete in Wisconsin and win.”

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Manafort also said Democrats were “smoking something” if they thought that Clinton had locked up Colorado, and he warned that the Clinton campaign was going to have to spend resources in Connecticut and Oregon. Ten days earlier, Manafort told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that “Pennsylvania’s in play. I mean, with Mike Pence, Wisconsin is gonna be in play. Michigan is gonna be in play. Connecticut is in play.”

But it wasn’t only Manafort who sounded delusional about the electoral map. In April, then-Trump adviser Corey Lewandowski told a Boston radio station that Trump would put Massachusetts in play.

Of course, the candidate himself set the stage for these kinds of wild promises. According to CNN, Trump said in January, “We are going to win New Jersey.” In May, he asserted, “We are going to focus on New York.” “We’re going to play heavy as an example in California,” he also promised, along with, “I put so many states in play: Michigan being one. Illinois.”

None of these promises rested on serious political strategy or logic. As often is the case with Trump, they were little more than braggadocio.

According to RealClearPolitics.com, state polls now show that the Midwest Rust Belt strategy of Trump has gone nowhere. Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin are not currently in play.

Iowa, with a very old and white electorate, could be competitive in November, and surveys in Nevada, which was hit badly when the real estate bubble burst and has the lowest percentage of college graduates in the country, suggest that the state is also worth watching. But the 12 electoral votes that those two states have combined wouldn’t move the needle much for Trump in the unlikely event that he carries them.

On the other hand, Colorado and Virginia, two swing states in 2012, look like potential blow-outs, with Clinton currently holding double-digit leads in both, according to RealClearPolitics.com. Both states may be trending blue these days, but the presidential swing from 2012 to 2016 surely has more to do with the relative appeal of the Republican nominees than with long-term demographic shifts in both states.


Many analysts and journalists note that polls show both Florida and Ohio are competitive in the general election. That’s true, but all four recent Ohio polls show Clinton leading by four to six points, and seven of the past eight Sunshine State surveys show her ahead, with the most reliable of the bunch, the NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll, putting the Democrat’s lead at five points.

A five-point victory in Florida would translate into a 52.5 percent to 47.5 percent victory (in a two-way race), certainly not a blow-out but not exactly a photo finish either, especially in possibly the “swingiest” state in the nation.

Four years ago, Obama beat Romney 50 percent to 49.1 percent in Florida, a margin of less than one percentage point. And in 2008, Obama carried the state by 2.8 points. In other words, a five-point win in Florida by Clinton would be convincing given the state’s recent performances.

Can Clinton expand her likely victory by carrying Georgia and Utah, or even Arizona and Indiana? It’s too soon to know whether any normally Republican presidential states other than North Carolina may flip to the Democratic column. But if Trump loses nationally by eight or nine points, which is possible, he certainly could lose some Republican states (as McCain did in 2008).

But what if Trump rallies and loses the presidential contest by only a couple of percentage points? Some GOP strategists believe that he could win at least 270 electoral votes even if he falls a few points short in the popular vote.

With Trump performing poorly in both Colorado and Virginia and not yet making large Rust Belt states competitive, it is hard to see the Republican nominee being able to put together enough electoral votes to win the White House. Even adding Florida, Ohio, Iowa and Nevada to Romney’s 2012 vote would leave Trump short of the 270 electoral votes he would need for victory.

A solid Clinton electoral vote victory looks to be the most likely outcome, with her floor probably somewhere near Obama’s 332 electoral vote total against Romney.
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Wait for it....



KABOOM!!!
  • DSK
  • 08-30-2016, 09:33 AM
So what, Hillary sucks even worse and she is afraid of the press.
bambino's Avatar
Wait for it....



KABOOM!!! Originally Posted by gfejunkie
Wiki isn't the only thing she has to worry about. Her lead is shrinking despite spending $200 million on negative ads in battleground states. Trump is just staring to spend money. She's in hiding. It's a non campaign. People are figuring her corrupt ass out.
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Has YouRong already called the race?
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Has YouRong already called the race? Originally Posted by LexusLover
He doesn't know what the fuck he's doing other than hitting the RTM button crying to the mods about being called a cocksucking pig.
  • DSK
  • 08-30-2016, 12:45 PM
He doesn't know what the fuck he's doing other than hitting the RTM button crying to the mods about being called a cocksucking pig. Originally Posted by bambino
Why would it be against the rules to call a cocksucking pig a coscksucking pig?

He is what he is.
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He doesn't know what the fuck he's doing other than hitting the RTM button crying to the mods about being called a cocksucking pig. Originally Posted by bambino
He must have learned the thingy about hitting the RTM button ...

.... when he crew tall enough to look in the mirror!

Hit RTM!!!

And he exclaimed: "God, who created that piece of shit looking back at me"!
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Why would it be against the rules to call a cocksucking pig a coscksucking pig?

He is what he is. Originally Posted by DSK
Because cocksucking pigs are offended when they are compared to Assup.
Actually this is the only forum that you can get away with it. As Bambi found out.
  • DSK
  • 08-30-2016, 02:46 PM
Because cocksucking pigs are offended when they are compared to Assup. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
That makes sense. Cocksucking pigs receive enough humiliation as it is. They have to make a stand somewhere.
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Actually this is the only forum that you can get away with it. As Bambi found out. Originally Posted by i'va biggen
No shit you fucking idiot. But when it comes to calling out cocksuckers, I don't give a fuck. The Bulgarian cocksucker is now banned for life. I did my part to get him banned. Asswipe is almost as despicable as the Bulgarian Cocksucker. Only Asswipe isn't clever enough to out someone's identity. He's too dumb and lazy. He would if he could. But like the Bulgarian cocksucker, Asswipes a world class liar.
No shit you fucking idiot. But when it comes to calling out cocksuckers, I don't give a fuck. The Bulgarian cocksucker is now banned for life. I did my part to get him banned. Asswipe is almost as despicable as the Bulgarian Cocksucker. Only Asswipe isn't clever enough to out someone's identity. He's too dumb and lazy. He would if he could. But like the Bulgarian cocksucker, Asswipes a world class liar. Originally Posted by bambino
Otherwise you are so fucking dumb that you are proud of your vacation, and you think calling a Jew a pig is clever.
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I know the HillarIdiotx want to cancel the election and just declare Hillary the winner based on some polls, but let's have the election anyway. I know it's probably rigged. I know Hillary will cheat. I know Hillary will probably win. But let's have it anyway.
Vote Gary !!!!!