To say that evolution is a complete explaination for why things are the way they are, is just as absurd as creationism; it's just as big a leap of faith.No scientific theory is a proof, no scientific theory explains everything. The standard model in physics is accepted, and was given further credibility by the 'discovery' of the Higgs boson, but nobody says it is complete and explains everything.
Originally Posted by joe bloe
No scientific theory is a proof, no scientific theory explains everything. The standard model in physics is accepted, and was given further credibility by the 'discovery' of the Higgs boson, but nobody says it is complete and explains everything.I didn't say ALL theories. I was comparing Darwin's theory and the creationist theory. That's TWO theories.
But to then say all theories are an equal leap of face is... well, words escape me.
I suggest you go and study the various evolutionary theories and their supporting evidence and how the FAQs have been at least partially answered.
I like to think of myself as somewhat of a scientist, doesn't make me disbelieve in a creating God. The only question is:
- what kind of a God, what kind of a creator?
answers to which i will never know in my lifetime.
The real question is the bit about God creating man in his own image, which means that God has by nature some human attributes.
I don't know of any evidence for this, apart from what the Bible says about Jesus, which is a bit circular. Originally Posted by essence
I didn't say ALL theories. I was comparing Darwin's theory and the creationist theory. That's TWO theories.
I agree that the big question about God, is his nature, not whether he exists. I think the most reasonable theory about the nature of God, is the Deist view that God created the world and left it to us to run. He doesn't intervene. That explains human suffering better than the belief that God is involved in day to day life.
Francis Crick, co-discoverer, of the molecular structure of DNA, and a life long atheist, had to concede that DNA's structure was too complex to have been created by natural selection.
I think a lot of atheists stubbornly defend the theory of evolution because it's a way of accounting for the world in a way that does not include God.
Even Crick himself was quoted as saying, ‘An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have had to have been satisfied to get it going.’3
Crick reasoned that life could not have evolved from non-living chemicals under any conceivable earth conditions. But the idea of a creator was unacceptable, since it would go against his atheistic faith. He affirmed this when he said, ‘People like myself get along perfectly well with no religious views.’1
http://creation.com/designed-by-alie...ism-panspermia Originally Posted by joe bloe
Mathematician and Astrophysicist Fred Hoyle, who coined the term 'Big Bang' and was a lifelong anti-theist until he started doing research in the area of Panspermia, had this to say about the spontaneous generation of life on earth.Yep, I agree. There has to be intelligence behind life; it's just too complex. I don't think evolution and God are mutally exclusive. God may use evolution as a tool.
“The likelihood of the spontaneous formation of life from inanimate matter is one to a number with 40,000 naughts after it…. It is big enough to bury Darwin and the whole theory of evolution.” {Hoyle, Sir Fred, and Chandra Wickramasinghe, Evolution from Space, 1984, p. 148}
That's a number pretty close to zero. Originally Posted by Ducbutter
Yep, I agree. There has to be intelligence behind life; it's just too complex. I don't think evolution and God are mutally exclusive. God may use evolution as a tool.It never ceases to astonish me how folks like you will say shit like this.....it's just all too unbelievable that it could have been the result of biological evolution. But, I believe it was all created by magic. Because, that makes sense and all.....the Bible tells me so.
Just look at how the eye works. Light comes in through cornea, it's focused by an internal lens, projected onto the retina, converted into an electrical impulse, travels through the optic nerve and the brain takes the data and synthesises an image that we perceive. The sophistication of the design could not possibly have been acheived by natural selection alone, not in a million years, a billion years or an infinite amount of time. Originally Posted by joe bloe
No scientific theory is a proof, no scientific theory explains everything. The standard model in physics is accepted, and was given further credibility by the 'discovery' of the Higgs boson, but nobody says it is complete and explains everything.
But to then say all theories are an equal leap of face is... well, words escape me.
I suggest you go and study the various evolutionary theories and their supporting evidence and how the FAQs have been at least partially answered.
I like to think of myself as somewhat of a scientist, doesn't make me disbelieve in a creating God. The only question is:
- what kind of a God, what kind of a creator?
answers to which i will never know in my lifetime.
The real question is the bit about God creating man in his own image, which means that God has by nature some human attributes.
I don't know of any evidence for this, apart from what the Bible says about Jesus, which is a bit circular. Originally Posted by essence
It never ceases to astonish me how folks like you will say shit like this.....it's just all too unbelievable that it could have been the result of biological evolution. But, I believe it was all created by magic. Because, that makes sense and all.....the Bible tells me so.Originally Posted by timpage