Educating Liberals

Bill Clinton passed a law in 1996 that separated children from adults illegally entering America.

And Liberals cheered.

Obama enforced this same law through this entire presidency.

And Liberals cheered.

President Trump is now left to deal with it.

And Liberals are angry.

Nothing new... Double standard.

They aren't Liberals, they are Progressives.

And every newscast, web page, protest and article I see leaves off the word "illegal." Except yours.

Like the PoundMeToo movement, this will come back to bite the Dims.

Yes it will as they don't have a solution to the problem.

They aren't Liberals, they are Progressives.

And every newscast, web page, protest and article I see leaves off the word "illegal." Except yours.

Like the PoundMeToo movement, this will come back to bite the Dims. Originally Posted by gnadfly

This is little more than a distraction from the corruption investigations.
The left wing is doing all they can to enact damage control.
Their best weapon is misdirection. It works on their ilk better than something shiny.

There is no law to separate children from illegal alien parents; not one from 1996, not one from Clinton, not one from Obama, not one from the dems. And not one that anyone cheered because there is no law only a policy enacted in 2018. Your information should have been fact checked before you repeated another lie. Fact check via Snopes next time please.

There is no law to separate children from illegal alien parents; not one from 1996, not one from Clinton, not one from Obama, not one from the dems. And not one that anyone cheered because there is no law only a policy enacted in 2018. Your information should have been fact checked before you repeated another lie. Fact check via Snopes next time please. Originally Posted by Napoleoninrags

Obama had a policy, not a law, that also separated families. this article has a liberal spin on it, as in Obama's policy didn't intentionally intend to separate families. but by taking the male parent to another location to be released back to Mexico, that's EXACTLY what happened.



the liberal spin here makes big noise about the dire consequences of this action. well what about the actions of these illegal aliens in the first place?



https://lawandcrime.com/immigration/...amilies-too-2/


Obama’s Immigration Agencies Separated Children From Their Families, Too

The Trump administration has an intentional and explicit policy of separating migrant children from their families if caught crossing the U.S.-Mexico border without permission. Long before that, however, the administration of Barack Obama ramped up a program with a sometimes similar effect.


Since 2008, the United States has had a policy known as the Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP), or Lateral Repatriation. This program focuses on detaining male migrants of Mexican descent.


Here’s how it works: Once an immigrant is caught attempting to cross the border without documentation, they are detained, flown or bused across the United States and then shown the exit at another segment of the U.S.-Mexico border–thousands of miles from their original point of entry.


The Los Angeles Times described a typical use of Lateral Repatriation in a story about Luis Montes. The Times noted:


Montes was put on a plane, flown halfway across the country and bused to the California-Mexico border. At 2 a.m. Tuesday, U.S. border authorities took off his handcuffs and escorted him to a gate leading to the desert city of Mexicali. Montes was back in Mexico, but about 1,200 miles away from where he started.


Luis Montes was sanguine about his dire situation, but the ATEP program often leads to migrants being placed in completely unfamiliar surroundings where they are then subject to crime and abuse, according to libertarian outlet Reason.


Sparingly used upon inception, the Obama administration drastically increased the use of ATEP in 2011, responding to a perceived increase in attempts at immigration into the United States by Mexican nationals.


But immigrants’ rights activists had long cautioned that Lateral Repatriation breaks up families. The reason is fairly simple: many male Mexican nationals who are detained trying to cross the border often come with their families in tow. When ATEP is used, the men are captured and taken thousands of miles away, while their wives, partners and children are placed in immigrant detention centers.


Eventually, the men are released into vastly different parts of Mexico than where they originally hailed from, while their families are likely to be deported near the original point of attempted entry. Mothers and older female relatives were typically given the option of staying with their children. Typically this meant being housed in a “family detention center,”most of which are located in Texas or Pennsylvania.










The Trump administration has an intentional and explicit policy of separating migrant children from their families if caught crossing the U.S.-Mexico border without permission. Long before that, however, the administration of Barack Obama ramped up a program with a sometimes similar effect.
Since 2008, the United States has had a policy known as the Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP), or Lateral Repatriation. This program focuses on detaining male migrants of Mexican descent.
Here’s how it works: Once an immigrant is caught attempting to cross the border without documentation, they are detained, flown or bused across the United States and then shown the exit at another segment of the U.S.-Mexico border–thousands of miles from their original point of entry.
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The Los Angeles Times described a typical use of Lateral Repatriation in a story about Luis Montes. The Times noted:

Montes was put on a plane, flown halfway across the country and bused to the California-Mexico border. At 2 a.m. Tuesday, U.S. border authorities took off his handcuffs and escorted him to a gate leading to the desert city of Mexicali. Montes was back in Mexico, but about 1,200 miles away from where he started.

Luis Montes was sanguine about his dire situation, but the ATEP program often leads to migrants being placed in completely unfamiliar surroundings where they are then subject to crime and abuse, according to libertarian outlet Reason.
Sparingly used upon inception, the Obama administration drastically increased the use of ATEP in 2011, responding to a perceived increase in attempts at immigration into the United States by Mexican nationals.
But immigrants’ rights activists had long cautioned that Lateral Repatriation breaks up families. The reason is fairly simple: many male Mexican nationals who are detained trying to cross the border often come with their families in tow. When ATEP is used, the men are captured and taken thousands of miles away, while their wives, partners and children are placed in immigrant detention centers.
Eventually, the men are released into vastly different parts of Mexico than where they originally hailed from, while their families are likely to be deported near the original point of attempted entry. Mothers and older female relatives were typically given the option of staying with their children. Typically this meant being housed in a “family detention center,”most of which are located in Texas or Pennsylvania.
Multiple stories about those family detention centers written during the Obama era–just not by the mainstream media. In particular, dozens of stories about the Nogales Placement Center in Nogales, Arizona particular were written by journalists at Shadowproof, a reader-supported media outlet, alone. Journalists for Shadowproof also frequently reported on the T. Don Hutto Residential Center in Taylor, Texas. Most media declined to investigate these facilities until fairly recently.


According to Angelo Guisado, a staff attorney with the Center for Constitutional Rights:


[T]hese places are tortuous: policies include banning mothers and children from sleeping together and turning lights on/off every hour to ensure this…guaranteeing sleep deprivation, this aside from your other standard physical/sexual abuse in ICE custody.










The Trump administration has an intentional and explicit policy of separating migrant children from their families if caught crossing the U.S.-Mexico border without permission. Long before that, however, the administration of Barack Obama ramped up a program with a sometimes similar effect.
Since 2008, the United States has had a policy known as the Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP), or Lateral Repatriation. This program focuses on detaining male migrants of Mexican descent.
Here’s how it works: Once an immigrant is caught attempting to cross the border without documentation, they are detained, flown or bused across the United States and then shown the exit at another segment of the U.S.-Mexico border–thousands of miles from their original point of entry.
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The Los Angeles Times described a typical use of Lateral Repatriation in a story about Luis Montes. The Times noted:

Montes was put on a plane, flown halfway across the country and bused to the California-Mexico border. At 2 a.m. Tuesday, U.S. border authorities took off his handcuffs and escorted him to a gate leading to the desert city of Mexicali. Montes was back in Mexico, but about 1,200 miles away from where he started.

Luis Montes was sanguine about his dire situation, but the ATEP program often leads to migrants being placed in completely unfamiliar surroundings where they are then subject to crime and abuse, according to libertarian outlet Reason.
Sparingly used upon inception, the Obama administration drastically increased the use of ATEP in 2011, responding to a perceived increase in attempts at immigration into the United States by Mexican nationals.
But immigrants’ rights activists had long cautioned that Lateral Repatriation breaks up families. The reason is fairly simple: many male Mexican nationals who are detained trying to cross the border often come with their families in tow. When ATEP is used, the men are captured and taken thousands of miles away, while their wives, partners and children are placed in immigrant detention centers.
Eventually, the men are released into vastly different parts of Mexico than where they originally hailed from, while their families are likely to be deported near the original point of attempted entry. Mothers and older female relatives were typically given the option of staying with their children. Typically this meant being housed in a “family detention center,”most of which are located in Texas or Pennsylvania.
Multiple stories about those family detention centers written during the Obama era–just not by the mainstream media. In particular, dozens of stories about the Nogales Placement Center in Nogales, Arizona particular were written by journalists at Shadowproof, a reader-supported media outlet, alone. Journalists for Shadowproof also frequently reported on the T. Don Hutto Residential Center in Taylor, Texas. Most media declined to investigate these facilities until fairly recently.
According to Angelo Guisado, a staff attorney with the Center for Constitutional Rights:

[T]hese places are tortuous: policies include banning mothers and children from sleeping together and turning lights on/off every hour to ensure this…guaranteeing sleep deprivation, this aside from your other standard physical/sexual abuse in ICE custody.

Single Mexican fathers or men who traveled without an adult female companion while attempting to cross the U.S.-Mexico border with children, when subject to ATEP, had their children separated from them. Unaccompanied minors would then be placed into the custody of the Office of Refugee Resettlement. Such custody is supposed to be temporary and ORR is supposed to release children to an identified family member or sponsor.


The Arizona-based group No More Deaths, along with various other human rights organizations, refers to ATEP as “a form of cruel and unusual punishment” and a fact sheet released by the group noted, “Very often, families are separated and sent to cities far away from each other. They are never told where to find their loved ones, and humanitarian organizations often have to go through the Mexican Consulate to get information about family members.”


Additionally, No More Deaths says the practice of Lateral Repatriation, used by Customs and Border Protection, is largely shrouded in secrecy and operates largely without accountability. The group notes:


The Government Accountability Office released a report in 2010 criticizing several DHS programs for lack of public accountability. The report mentioned ATEP, in the context of other programs that do not have any measurement mechanisms in place. DHS largely dismissed such concerns, saying of performance measures that it “did not believe such action was appropriate,” according to the GAO.


Because of Homeland Security’s dismissal of the need for accountability, it’s unclear exactly how many children were separated from their families under this Obama-era policy.


To be clear: the Obama administration’s use of ATEP was not intended to break-up families–that was an occasionally expected side effect–while Trump’s recently-confirmed policy is expressly directed toward that end in the name of “deterrence.”
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When a person commits a crime it is not the normal practice to jail the children with the parents.
We do not throw innocent children into jail but provide them with what they need such as food clothing shelter and such.
The left has a hard time understanding that it is a crime to illegally enter this country. Until the criminals can be processed and temporarily jailed, the children are separated from the people that claim to be the=ir parents until such time as they have been processed.


This has been gong on forever and is not Trump's policy.


Repeat after me:
ILLEGAL
CRIME
CRIMINAL
These words are very important to the discussion.
Remember, it is the illegal actions of the criminals that enter our country illegally that cause them to be separated from the children they bring with them. You lefties assume these are their own children and not shields for the gang members that are using them to cover their ases.

There is no law to separate children from illegal alien parents; not one from 1996, not one from Clinton, not one from Obama, not one from the dems. And not one that anyone cheered because there is no law only a policy enacted in 2018. Your information should have been fact checked before you repeated another lie. Fact check via Snopes next time please. Originally Posted by Napoleoninrags

The Flores vs Reno ruling in 1997 (Janet Reno that is, Slick Willie the Perjurying Sexual Predator's AG) says that the children will be detained in the least restrictive manner possible while their parents are being put through the criminal justice system for violating U.S. laws -- meaning, the welfare of the children is preeminent and they will not be jailed with adult criminals as their parents are. Fact check that, "#Grubered" by Snopes.

I think we should throw the little bastards into jail with Mammi and Poppi. That'll teach them to swim the Rio Grande! Either that or we reunite all of the lil childrens with their 'rents on the south side of the border.

Did the federal government not separate Vicki Weaver from her family at Ruby Ridge.

American children are separated every day in the US and left to the custody of the State or worse, their own devices, when parents are put in jail. This is not something new. The Democrats are grasping at straws and using these kids as political pawns because they are seeing their blue wave turning into a red tide.
Jeff Sessions finally said something useful after nearly 18 months as AG. If you don't want to your kids to be separated from from you don't come here illegally. It's really pretty simple.

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

Saw this meme Sunday. One reader replied that she was thinking of the fathers that will never -- ever -- go home to their families from Benghazi where Slick Willie's political whore for a wife needlessly sacrificed their lives.

The Flores vs Reno ruling in 1997 (Janet Reno that is, Slick Willie the Perjurying Sexual Predator's AG) says that the children will be detained in the least restrictive manner possible while their parents are being put through the criminal justice system for violating U.S. laws -- meaning, the welfare of the children is preeminent and they will not be jailed with adult criminals as their parents are. Fact check that, "#Grubered" by Snopes. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

The above quoted ruling does NOT compel the present administration to detain children away from their parents. And that's the point. Our president and many others are claiming that laws compel that action and that simply is not the case. Those actions are the result of policy outlined by AG Sessions and not any law (or ruling) from previous administations or courts.

The above quoted ruling does NOT compel the present administration to detain children away from their parents. And that's the point. Our president and many others are claiming that laws compel that action and that simply is not the case. Those actions are the result of policy outlined by AG Sessions and not any law (or ruling) from previous administations or courts. Originally Posted by Napoleoninrags

Per Article II, Section III of the Constitution the president "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed"; hence, the president is indeed compelled to enforce the immigration laws written and passed by Congress. It's not a suggestion or optional. It's a Constitutional requirement that the president emphatically shall insure that this nation's laws are faithfully executed. Your lib-retard notion that Odumbo's "catch and release" policy was "faithfully" enforcing the law is unmitigated bullshit.

It is notably conspicuous that the Flores vs Reno ruling was made in 1997 -- 20 years ago! Hence, the fact that this case exists at all completely destroys your asinine arguement that previous administrations never did this. Flores vs Reno stands as absolute proof THAT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES! The government was challenged and found to be Constitutionally above reproach in 1997, on Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator's watch.

Furthermore, the Supreme Court ruled that the State's insuring the safety and welfare of unaccompanied juveniles is not only Constitutional in such cases, but absolutely necessary to safeguard the welfare of juveniles when their caregivers are detained in a jail cell for violating U.S. immigration laws.

The Flores vs Reno ruling compels the government to provide certain minimum facilities (separate from any adult criminal element "in a facility designated for the occupancy of juveniles. § 242.24(c)") and services to minors whose parents are arrested for violating U.S. immigration laws the U.S. president is "faithfully" enforcing.