i have a serious question how can the cops?

knock on my hotel door and give me a ticket for sob(sexual orientated business)? without proof that i had even had a client or anything? and then they just gave me a ticket and my two friends that were in my room had warrants and got arrested


but why would the cops have even came to my room in the first place??? and how do they have proof?

Well, if you have a SERIOUS question, I guess we better answer it.

It might be helpful to know what city you were in and the circumstances which led to a cop to come a-knockin' on your hotel room door.

SJ has good questions but my question is why did you open your door?? Did the po po have a warrant? Obviously not if they issued you a citation. What information did you provide the po po?

SJ has good questions but my question is why did you open your door?? Did the po po have a warrant? Obviously not if they issued you a citation. What information did you provide the po po? Originally Posted by DocHolyday

No Doc.
She ended up with the aggressive version of hotel staff wanting her to leave. And sometimes they ask the doughnut boys to help.
Never hack off hotel staff. They do have the registered persons real world data.

actually i was in grand prairie.. I have no clue what made them knock on my door because i was sleeping at the time.

& yeah i realize i didn't have to open the door but idk i felt like they had already heard me inside so i just said fuck it i hadn't been doing anything but sleeping so i wasn't to worried about it

& unique_carpenter i don't get what you mean hack off hotel staff because i never do and i always pay my rent on time everyday so wtf is there to complain about? & no shit they have my real world data... so do y'all i don't understand that makin a fake name up because one way or another ima be sara

All of the shysters are wrong. The hotels owns the room and can give cops consent to enter and search.If I can't perform my job I GET FIRED. And I've fired more than one incompetent lawyer, who are in fact working as officers of the court. Sheesh, the dumbassery shines thru.

loveduckx,
Something earlier set off hotel staff other than paying for the room.
And yes Noid is correct, hotels can always enter.

All of the shysters are wrong. The hotels owns the room and can give cops consent to enter and search.If I can't perform my job I GET FIRED. And I've fired more than one incompetent lawyer, who are in fact working as officers of the court. Sheesh, the dumbassery shines thru. Originally Posted by Noid

Noid, you are absolutely WRONG. Hotel staff cannot give legal consit to search a room rented to a guest. They could give consent to search an UNOCCUPIED, NOT RENTED room. It's called the guest having a "reasonable expectation of privacy." It sounds like the lawyer(s) you fired had a fool for a client, not that they were "incompetent." However, you did get one thing correct Noid, your "dumbassery" (ignorance) is shining through.

LD, I suggest you ignore Noid and UC. Hire an attorney to fight the SOB charge (I saw nothing in your event description that would give rise to reasonable suspicion that you were running a SOB, which would give rise to LE having probable cause to issue a citation.) Best of luck my dear.

Sincerely,
Doc Holyday, Esquire at large

P.S. My apologies to SJ if I stepped on your toes on this one. Please feel free to give a concurring or dissenting opinion Sir.

Well let the eccie world know once you have moved cause it seems that place is comprised now and this post will scare some of us that have been interested away I'm sure .

Thicknesslover I know I figured it would but I needed advice.. I'm ready to move today bc I'm too nervous to do anything here now. I need suggestions on where to move though

Well Doc, as a fellow Esquire at large I concur with your opinion. NOID types have been released from my protection in the past. Life is too short to debate with idiots.

To the OP, head north to OKC. We would love to have you. Best, Billy

I would suggest that you move somewhere where they are a little more busy and don't have much time to go around writing people tickets for sob maybe try to find like a rent house you can.afford. I wasn't being an ass with my last msg by the way was just trying to help you out.

Well Doc, as a fellow Esquire at large I concur with your opinion. NOID types have been released from my protection in the past. Life is too short to debate with idiots.

To the OP, head north to OKC. We would love to have you. Best, Billy Originally Posted by Billysilly

BS, thank you Sir for your informed and concurring opinion.

SJ, what say you Sir?

Wow I felt like I was in a court room while adding this thread. I just concur with Doc cause my kitty said so. Lol Good luck I would see if the owner is a hobbier...you may have made him want a turn and didn't notice he did.... Which caused him rejection and .... Gee I just like to make light but I do hope the best. It sucks when business is ruined as far as finances. Everyone be safe and stay stress relieved.

Loveduck,
You mention you paid daily with cash. What you also did was openly declare yourself to the front desk by doing that. Thus, the hotel had popo stop by to ask you to vacate.

The real issue is that there's clearly a bible thumper at a Sr. staff level at the hotel, whom has taken upon themselves to cure the world. There's nothing anyone can do about this except to avoid that particular establishment. So yes appropriate to let the other hobby folks in that area know to avoid that place.

Also, I would bet that the popo write up that supports them issuing you a ticket will include a statement from hotel staff witnesses (the bible thumper), otherwise they would not have issued a ticket, just asked you to leave. Thus, you need to have an atty handle that ticket for you.

Last, the rest of this is not directed at you. It's for the other posters.
Be safe, play safe, and best wishes.

But first;

Wow I felt like I was in a court room while adding this thread... Originally Posted by trippplextc8

Yup, here we go (and thx for an excellent segue):

Sorry Doc,
Hotels always can toss.
And they can always ask popo to help.
And once hotel has made a decision to ask someone to leave, the occupant is no longer an authorized guest and reasonable expectation of privacy is gone.
United States v. Rambo, 789 F.2d 1289, 1296 (8th Cir.1986)
Might have a few minutes to pack, but that's it.
And, as the occupant is no longer an authorized guest, the room is wide open for entry.
And of course, if popo is helping get a room vacated, if they see anything, well....
BTW, in my area, search warrants can be obtained in just a few minutes through handhelds.

I used to work hotel operations. And this is the way it is in the real world. And there are reports on every single thing that involves a guest or any other type of incident (and nowadays including video clips). Anyone who objects to vacating a hotel room is just digging a deeper hole for themselves.

Now just for clarity, hotels have long valid practice for tossing anyone that disturbs the peace, being suspected of this boards guideline 15 whatnot, or other whatnot.
Frankly, it's usually drunks or party folks. That said, there's a zillion cases and hotels win 99.999% of the time.
Examples:
Smoking in a non-smoking is a valid reason.
Payment issues are valid reasons.
Making disturbances (usually noise)are valid reasons.
Objectionable Conduct is a valid reason.
Illegal Activity (or suspicion of) is a valid reason.

In one amusing case Jehovah's Witnesses were tossed cause they could not refrain from trying to preach to other guests. First amendment speech rights protections, etc. were ruled not applicable, and the JV's lost.

Last, once no longer a guest, the various laws regarding trespassing also come into play.

Jon, or others, will probably torch me, but I lived this stuff for several years, and the popo will always do what the hotel staff want to happen.

But, here's an item that a lot of hotel folks are aware of from the US 8th Circuit Court of Appeals. This write references codes in multiple states and covers multiple issues related to removing hotel guests. And, this specifically deals with "expectations of privacy" and "entering rooms". Note that the Hammond's Hotel outfit was based in Missouri at the time (my backyard).

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-8th-circuit/1441593.html