Herman Cain: The Plot Thickens

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A third woman accuses Cain of sexual harassment:

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-t...205655781.html

Meanwhile, Cain, in an apparent attempt to deflect attention from himself, accuses Slick Rick of spreading the rumors.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/us...-campaign.html

My guess is that both stories are true.

Meanwhile, Perry points the finger at Romney. (See original AP story.) No honor among thieves is there?

The AP also buries the real lead. There is apparent confirmation from a third party witness that Cain made inappropriate remakes to female employees from a another male employee!

But Chris Wilson, a pollster who did work for the restaurant association during Cain's tenure, said in an interview that he witnessed the businessman making inappropriate comments and gestures toward a young woman who worked for the group during a dinner at a hotel in Arlington, Va., across the Potomac River from Washington in the late 1990s. Wilson declined to discuss more specifics without the woman's permission.

Cain's behavior with women was well known, Wilson said.

"People knew about it. I'm surprised that it hasn't come up before," said Wilson, whose firm, Wilson Perkins Allen Opinion Research, does polling for a political action committee backing Perry. Wilson said he has not been the source of information on the accusations against Cain.

Meanwhile, as any idiot would expect, the pressure mounts from all quarters for Cain to allow everyone to speak and let the chips fall where they may:

The pressure on Cain only increased when a pillar of the GOP establishment suggested Wednesday that the Georgia businessman should ask the association to waive the confidentiality agreements.

"What are the facts?" asked Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour on MSNBC. "If you have a confidentiality agreement that keeps the public from finding out something that the public is interested in knowing the facts, you ought to go on and get the facts out."

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-t...205655781.html

The NYTimes elaborates:

“If she comes out and talks about it, like I said, it’ll probably be the end of his campaign,” Mr. Wilson said in an earlier radio interview on KTOK in Oklahoma, where he lives. “It was only a matter of time, because so many people were aware of what took place, so many people were aware of her situation — the fact she left. Everybody knew, with the campaign, that this would eventually come up.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/us...-campaign.html

Last I heard, Herman was still claiming he wanted to "talk to his lawyer" before he knew what he wanted to say about the request to remove the gag order.

This all just screams "Not ready for prime time." It's a shame that the Republicans wouldn't let this alone until the general election.
TexTushHog's Avatar
Now there are two more women, apparently. And the harassment occurred this year!!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67478.html

Although when you read the actual story, the employer of the two women claims that he was offended by Cain's treatment of the women on his staff. He's never talked to the actual women themselves. So it's really just Republicans piling on and smearing Cain in an effort to save their ass in November.

The Republican slime machine is in high gear.
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So Cain may have tried to pick up some hot babe at a convention. And we on this SHMB should be shocked and offended? Unless he raped someone, like Kathleen Willey or Juanita Broderick, I'd say focus on the issues. He can't answer those questions either. By attacking him this way, they are making him a martyr for the hard core right.

These people are stupid, unless the charges are true and substantial, by that I mean, more than referencing a pubic hair on his Coke, they risk cementing Cain's support. They don't need to destroy Cain, Cain will do it for them.

On the other hand, maybe we could dig up some charges against Romney, Santorum, Gingrich (that will be easy), Paul, Bachmann, Huntsman, Perry (no, not Perry. He will screw himself up) - then we'd have to turn to - GARY JOHNSON! This might work!
TexTushHog's Avatar
I hope it does cement his support. Then the party regulars will panic even more.
This episode will bring one of two things to light.

It will either show that Herman Cain is a crude, rude, letch, or it will show how ridiculous our "sexual harrassment" laws are.
WHY OUR BLACKS ARE BETTER THAN THEIR BLACKS
Ann Coulter
November 2, 2011


By spending the last three decades leveling accusations of "racism" every 10 seconds, liberals have made it virtually impossible for Americans to recognize real racism -- for example, the racism constantly spewed at black conservatives.

In the last year alone, a short list of the things liberals have labeled "racist" include:

-- Being a Republican;

-- Joining the tea party;

-- The word "the" (Donald Trump's statement that he has a "great relationship with the blacks");

-- References to Barack Obama's playing basketball (Trump again);

-- Using Obama's middle name;

-- Scott Brown's pickup truck;

-- Opposing Obamacare;

-- Opposing Obama's stimulus bill;

-- Opposing Obama's jobs bill.

The surge in conservative support for Herman Cain confuses the Democrats' story line, which is that Republicans hate Obama because he's black.

Cain is twice as black as Obama. (Possible Obama campaign slogan: "Too Black!")

This is why the liberal website Politico ran with a story on Cain that had everything -- a powerful black man, a Republican presidential candidate, the hint of sexuality -- except facts.

All we learned was: About a decade ago, as many as two anonymous women accused Cain of making unspecified "inappropriate" remarks and one "inappropriate" gesture in the workplace. (We had more than that on John Edwards' mistress a year into the media's refusal to report that story.)

If the details helped liberals, we'd have the details.

To have been accused of sexual harassment in the 1990s is like having been accused of molesting children at preschools in the 1980s or accused of being a witch in Massachusetts in the 1690s.

In the 1990s, one plaintiff won a $50 million jury verdict against Wal-Mart on the grounds that a "hostile environment" was created by her supervisor's yelling at both male and female employees. In another case, a plaintiff won a $250,000 award for sexual harassment based on her complaint that a male colleague had reached for a pastry saying, "Nothing I like more in the morning than sticky buns," while "wriggl(ing)" his eyebrows.

It got so crazy that a 6-year-old boy was suspended from class for a day for kissing a classmate on the cheek, and a Goya painting had to be removed from a Penn State classroom because a professor complained that it constituted sexual harassment.

With no standard other than the subjective offense taken by the accuser, absolutely anyone could be called a witch, i.e., a sexual harasser. So it's striking that the only two conservative public figures accused of being witches both happened to be conservative blacks: Clarence Thomas and Herman Cain.

Liberals go straight to ugly racist stereotypes when attacking conservative blacks, calling them oversexualized, stupid and/or incompetent.

The late, lamented, white liberal reporter Mary McGrory called Justice Antonin Scalia "a brilliant and compelling extremist" -- while dismissing Thomas as "Scalia's puppet."

More recently, Democratic Sen. Harry Reid called Scalia "one smart guy." In the next breath, he proclaimed Thomas "an embarrassment to the Supreme Court," adding, "I think that his opinions are poorly written."

When Bush made Condoleezza Rice the first black female secretary of state, terror swept through the Democratic Party. What if people began to notice and ask questions: "Who's that black woman always standing with George Bush?" Never mind! He's probably arresting her.

In addition to an explosion of racist cartoons portraying Rice as Aunt Jemima, Butterfly McQueen from "Gone With the Wind," a fat-lipped Bush parrot and other racist cliches, allegedly respectable liberals promptly called her stupid and incompetent.

Joseph Cirincione, then with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said Rice "doesn't bring much experience or knowledge of the world to this position." (Unlike Hillary Clinton, whose experience for the job consisted of being married to an impeached, disbarred former president.)

Democratic consultant Bob Beckel -- who ran Walter Mondale's 1984 campaign so competently that Mondale lost 49 states -- said of Rice, "I don't think she's up to the job."

When Michael Steele ran for senator in Maryland in 2006, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee dug up a copy of his credit report -- something done to no other Republican candidate. He was depicted in black face with huge red lips by liberal blogger Steve Gilliard. Oreo cookies were rolled down the aisle at Steele during a gubernatorial debate in 2002.

Trafficking in racist imagery is consequence-free for liberals because they have ruined charges of "racism" with their own overuse of the term. By now, any accusation of racism has the feel of a Big Foot sighting.

It's a neat trick, rather as if the Nazis had called everything "genocide" right before launching the Holocaust, and then admonished resisters not to "play the genocide card."

Liberals step on black conservatives early and often because they can't have black children thinking, "Hmmm, the Republicans have some good ideas; maybe I'm a Republican."

The basic setup is:

Step 1: Spend 30 years telling blacks that Republicans are racist and viciously attacking all black Republicans.

Step 2: Laugh maliciously at Republicans for not having more blacks in their party.

It is beyond insane that Herman Cain would have considered running for president if he had the tiniest skeleton in his closet. To be an out-of-the-closet black Republican, you had better be a combination rocket scientist/Baptist preacher. Which, as it happens, Cain is.

Meanwhile, MSNBC is cutting into its prime-time programming to announce updates in the fact-free hit on Cain. That's not because anyone there thinks he'll be the nominee. Everyone knows it's going to be Mitt Romney.

But liberals are determined to make sure that, six months from now, everyone has forgotten Herman Cain so they can go back to claiming Republicans oppose Obama because they hate blacks.
TheDaliLama's Avatar
Excellent post.

Alot of that sounds just like our very own douchebag TTH.
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This episode will bring one of two things to light.

It will either show that Herman Cain is a crude, rude, letch, or it will show how ridiculous our "sexual harrassment" laws are. Originally Posted by Jackie S

Maybe both.
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Yup the current President looks kinda like Urkel.
November 9, 2010
Homosexuality in the
White House, update

On May 23, 2010, it was reported that Obama and his Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, were members of a gay bath house in Chicago.
May 23, 2010-- Someone in the national media is FINALLY interested in Man's Country in Andersonville -- Normally, it’s foreign journalists who get in touch with us when they’re in Chicago and want to go to the Southside to see how terrible it is, and talk about how Obama did absolutely jack squat for it as either a state senator or US Senator... But, this time it was a US reporter who wanted information on Man’s Country in Andersonville (a gay bathouse), which is a place both Obama and Rahm Emanuel frequented in the past. Obama until 2002 or so, and Emanuel through 2008, according to what we’ve been told....

Rahm Emanuel
May 24, 2010 -- Obama and Emanuel: members of same gay bath house club in Chicago -- President Obama and his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel are lifetime members of the same gay bath house in uptown Chicago, according to informed sources in Chicago's gay community, as well as veteran political sources in the city....

Michelle & Barack Obama
The Man's Country story first broke on the Wayne Madsen Report (a subscriber site). It seems that the complete article has now been copied onto a blog HERE. Some of the high points--or low points--are:
Obama began frequenting Man’s Country in the mid-1990s, during the time he transitioned from a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School to his election as an Illinois State Senator in 1996. Emanuel, reportedly joined Man’s Country after he left the Clinton White Hosue and moved back to Chicago in 1998...Man’s Country appears to be a “one stop shopping” center for gay men. The club’s website advertises steam rooms, “fantasy rooms,” bed rooms, male strippers, adult movies, and lockers.Man’s Country was not the only location for Obama’s predatory gay sex activities. The Chicago gay community is aware that Obama often made contacts with younger men at his famous “pick-up basketball” games.Sources in Chicago's gay community report that Obama was attracted to Man's Country's older white clientele because he generally enjoys being fellated by older white men. Obama would regularly be seen at Man's Country on Wednesdays.Wayne Madsen Report (WMR) spoke to several well-placed sources in Chicago who reported that Jeremiah Wright, the pastor of Obama's former church of 20 years, Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC) on Chicago's south side, ran what was essentially a matchmaking service for gay married black professional members of the church... The matchmaking club was called the Down Low Club (DLC)Among the members of the gay DLC were Obama and TUCC's choir director, Donald Young, an openly gay man who reportedly had a sexual relationship with Obama. Two other gay members of the church were Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. Young and Bland were brutally murdered, execution style, in late 2007.
Some of Barack Obama's alleged lovers

Reggie Love
Reggie Love, a former Duke basketball and football player and unsuccessful National Basketball hopeful, currently serves as Obama’s personal trainer and White House “special assistant” — he has been called Obama’s “body man” – who receives a salary of $104,000 a year. Love is also reportedly one of Obama’s regular gay sex partners. Love joined Obama’s Senate staff in a senior staff position in 2006. ... WMR’s Chicago sources believe the Secret Service records of presidential candidate Obama’s activities in Chicago would show that Obama regularly arrived at Love’s Chicago residence at 9:00 am and departed at 9:15 am. ...while 15 minutes is much too short for a personal training exercise, it is ample time for fellatio.

Deval Patrick
Chicago sources also informed WMR of another past gay partner of Obama, Massachusetts Democratic Governor Deval Patrick.

Donald Young
Among the members of the gay DLC were Obama and TUCC's choir director, Donald Young, an openly gay man who reportedly had a sexual relationship with Obama. Like Larry Bland and Nate Spencer, Donald Young was murdered in 2007.

Bill Frist
In 2006, after Obama became the junior senator from Illinois, WMR’s sources in the Congressional Black Caucus reported that there were persistent rumors of gay trysts between Obama and then-GOP Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee. The allegations at the time seemed unbelievable. ... However, based on Obama’s penchant for receiving fellatio from older white men, a column written by The Washington Post’s “In the Loop” columnist Al Kamen on April 7, 2006, some four months into Obama’s Senate term, may have expanded relevance. Kamen reported he received an invitation to attend Frist’s “5th Annual VOLPAC ’06 Weekend” in Nashville from April 21st to 23rd and that the invitation card required one to “unbuckle the cowboy’s pants and look inside to see what this was all about.” Kamen opined that the invitation seemed “a bit too ‘Brokeback Mountain.’”

Artur Davis
WMR has previously reported on Obama’s past trysts with Alabama Democratic U.S. Representative Artur Davis, a current primary candidate for governor of Alabama. Although not in the same class, Obama and Davis attended Harvard Law School during an overlap of their attendance at the law school.

Kal Penn
Gay actor Kal Penn went to work at the Obama white house in April, 2009 as "Associate Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement." He left in April, 2010 amid rumors that he and Obama had had a falling out. Two weeks later he was robbed in a bizarre crime where his phone was taken. Many speculate that the phone contained messages and time stamps that could have compromised Obama.

Obama roommate in Pakistan, 1981
June 2, 2010 -- Emanuel's "Play Condo" in Washington D.C. -- On June 2 WMR reported that while Rahm Emanuel was a lobbyist, he rented a D.C. condominium at well below market rates. The condo was owned by Connecticut Representative Rosa DeLauro, who is married to Democratic strategist Stan Greenberg. Greenberg's a partner in a law firm that has BP (the oil company) on its client list. BP's one of the firm's largest clients. Emanuel reportedly used the condominium for homosexual trysts when he traveled from Chicago to Washington. The "play condo" was reportedly wired, and surveillance that was conducted shows the extracurricular activities of not only Emanuel, but also of then-US Senator Barack Obama and former President Bill Clinton. Obama is currently stalling on taking action against BP in the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, and some speculate that he is being blackmailed with the surveillance evidence.
November 9, 2010 -- Obama Visits a Nation That Knew Him as Barry -- From a New York Times article reporting on Obama's visit to Indonesia. "His (Obama's) nanny was an openly gay man who, in keeping with Indonesia’s relaxed attitudes toward homosexuality, carried on an affair with a local butcher, longtime residents said. The nanny later joined a group of transvestites called Fantastic Dolls, who, like the many transvestites who remain fixtures of Jakarta’s streetscape, entertained people by dancing and playing volleyball."
Iaintliein's Avatar
A little off subject, perhaps that one would be better in a new thread about "Ominous Poling for Obama";-)

As for Cain, this thing needs to be aired in public to as great an extend as possible. From the small size of the settlement it looks like it all may have came down to a "she said, he said" situation.

He'd be better off to just come out of the closet and admit he's a Lesbian. It certainly was a load off for me when I did!
TTH's phony outrage over the Cain thing is laughable; afterall wasn't it Fred Baron, one of TTH's Texas litigation buddies, who was financially enabling John Edwards to cheat with his pregnant mistress; all the while Edwards was running for the Presidency...and Edward's wife was slowly dying of cancer !

Edwards was indicted and Fred Baron would probably as well, had he not died.
Thank God Edwards, a slimeball attorney, didn't get away with it.

Last thing we need in the White House are more attorney's...the last few (all Democrat lawyers) have been a disaster.

However the Cain thing plays out, it will be a minor event, compared to the Obama/Edwards/Clinton fiasco.

Let's revisit one of Slick Willy's finer moments...........love the phony outrage of these lawyers !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSDAXGXGiEw

and here is Silky Pony Edwards who wanted to be President: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC4tHLqJtpA

The ability of these lawyers to look ya in the eye and lie is astonishing.....How do they do it TTH?
Edwards is a low-life, no doubt about that....but, that has exactly nothing to do with Herman Cain right now.

And Whirly, you're dreaming if you think this is going away anytime soon...especially now that Cain is blaming Perry and Perry is blaming Romney. I guess Romney will blame Santorum or Bachmann next.

This shit's got legs. What's truly funny is that what Cain ought to be worried about isn't the sex harassment allegations....it's the allegations that his campaign manager's non-profit corp loaned the campaign over $40K. Can you say "Felony"?
TTH's phony outrage over the Cain thing is laughable; afterall wasn't it Fred Baron, one of TTH's Texas litigation buddies, who was financially enabling John Edwards to cheat with his pregnant mistress; all the while Edwards was running for the Presidency...and Edward's wife was slowly dying of cancer !

Edwards was indicted and Fred Baron would probably as well, had he not died.
Thank God Edwards, a slimeball attorney, didn't get away with it.

Last thing we need in the White House are more attorney's...the last few (all Democrat lawyers) have been a disaster.

However the Cain thing plays out, it will be a minor event, compared to the Obama/Edwards/Clinton fiasco.

Let's revisit one of Slick Willy's finer moments...........love the phony outrage of these lawyers !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSDAXGXGiEw

and here is Silky Pony Edwards who wanted to be President: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC4tHLqJtpA

The ability of these lawyers to look ya in the eye and lie is astonishing.....How do they do it TTH? Originally Posted by Whirlaway
Speaking of liars....here's a brief synopsis of Cain's evolving story about his alter-ego serial sex harasser activities:

The leading GOP candidate said Monday he couldn’t recall whether he met one of the women in a hotel room while at a conference, but he never said no directly when posed the question.
“That I absolutely do not recall. You know, I have no recollection of that,” Cain said in an interview with Judy Woodruff on PBS’s NewsHour.
Today, he added that he never extended such an invitation.
The former chief executive of Godfather’s Pizza denied Monday that he was aware of a settlement between the two accusers and the National Restaurant Association, but his story changed as the day evolved.
“If the Restaurant Association did a settlement, I wasn’t aware of it and I hope it wasn’t much because nothing happened,” Cain said in a Fox News interview, and repeated the same line at the National Press Club later that afternoon.
But in the interview later in the evening with PBS, the Tea Party star said he was, in fact, aware of a deal.
“I was aware that an agreement was reached. The word ‘settlement’ versus the word ‘agreement,’ you know, I’m not sure what they called it. I know that there was some sort of agreement, but because it ended up being minimal, they didn’t have to bring it to me,” Cain told PBS’ Woodruff.
Cain blamed the discrepancy on the wording and the difference between a “settlement” and “agreement.”
“When I first heard the term settlement I thought [about] the legal term,” Cain said on Fox News today. “My recollection was it was an agreement… I didn’t think there was a legal settlement but an agreement.”
The former businessman has described the story, first reported by Politico, as a distraction and a “witch hunt” created by his competitors. He also accused the left of attacking him because of his race.
“I didn’t change my story. I simply got the wording right,” he told HLN’s Robin Meade today.