another warning shot from mother nature....

of course the right wingers will say this is part of a marxist plot or a promotion of agenda 21....they will deny the science....they will deny the evidence....they will tell you that humans are not the greatest polluters....they will tell you the emissions from industrial plants do not increase warming....they will also buy lots of property in Kansas which after the debacle will be a tourist haven having both the atlantic and pacific beachs as tourist attractions....

This Is What a Holy Shit Moment for Global Warming Looks Like
According to two new studies, the collapse of much of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet may now be irreversible. That could ultimately mean 10 feet of sea level rise.
—By Chris Mooney
| Mon May 12, 2014 5:07 PM EDT

This Antarctic glacier may be history, says new research. It contains almost two feet of sea level rise, and that's just the beginning. NASA.

If you truly understand global warming, then you know it's all about the ice. That's what matters. Planet Earth has not always had great ice sheets at the poles, of the sort that currently exist atop Greenland and Antarctica. In other periods, much of that water has instead been in liquid form, in the oceans—and the oceans have been much higher.

How much? According to the National Academy of Sciences, the globe's great ice sheets contain enough frozen water to raise sea levels worldwide by more than 60 meters. That's about 200 feet. And it makes all the sea level rise that we've seen so far due to global warming appear piddly and insignificant.

That's why scientists have long feared a day like this would come. Two new scientific papers, in the journals Science and Geophysical Research Letters, report that major glaciers that are part of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet appear to have become irrevocably destabilized. The whole process may still play out on the scale of centuries, but due to the particular dynamics of this ice sheet, the collapse of these major glaciers now "appears unstoppable," according to NASA (whose researchers are behind one of the two studies).

The first study, by researchers at NASA and the University of California-Irvine, uses satellite radar to examine an array of large glaciers along the Amundsen Sea in West Antarctica, which collectively contain the equivalent of four feet of sea level rise. The result is the documentation of a "continuous and rapid retreat"—for instance, the Smith and Kohler glaciers have retreated 35 kilometers since 1992—and the researchers say that there is "no [major] obstacle that would prevent the glaciers from further retreat." In the NASA press release, the researchers are still more vocal, with one of them noting that these glaciers "have passed the point of no return."

The other group of researchers, based at the University of Washington, reach similar conclusions with their paper in Science. But they do so by using a computer model to study one of these glaciers in particular: The Thwaites Glacier, pictured above, which contains about two feet of sea level rise and is retreating rapidly. "The simulations indicate that early-stage collapse has begun," notes their paper. What's more, the Thwaites Glacier is a "linchpin" for the rest of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet; its rapid collapse would "probably spill over to adjacent catchments, undermining much of West Antarctica." And considering that the entire West Antarctic Ice Sheet contains enough water to raise sea levels by 10 to 13 feet, that's a really big deal.

It is, again, important to emphasize that just because these glaciers may have passed the "point of no return" does not mean that dramatic sea level rise happens tomorrow. There is a limit to how fast glaciers and ice sheets can move, and the Science paper emphasizes that the entire process may take several hundred years and possibly as much as a millennium.

In the grand scheme of things, though, the consequence would be a very different planet. And West Antarctica is just the beginning. According to glaciologist and Greenland expert Jason Box, when you compare where we are now to where atmospheric carbon dioxide levels and ocean levels stood in past warm periods of Earth's history, you can infer that human beings have already set in motion 69 feet of sea level rise
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/05/west-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapse

I guess if it is at the point of no return you can quit worrying about it.

Hmmm . . . Did anyone say how long until the damage happens? Could it be, oh, say, 200 years from now?

steveparANOID... quit drinking the Kook-aid... It's going to be OK... Think of uni-corns and rainbows!

according to the article...it's inevitable but will take a few centuries. Stevie, are you the poster who said "people will be spitting on our grave" or words to that extent?

You are truly a useful idiot-the kind of person who HAS to have a Democrat in the WH and craves a nanny state.

Psst, Stevebogey! Did you tell Al Gore that he shouldn't have bought that $9 million ocean front villa in Montecito?

Psst, Stevebogey! Did you tell Al Gore -- you know the dim-retard that ran for president -- that he shouldn't have bought that $9 million ocean front villa in Montecito?

You mean the guy who was elected president?

How truly disappointed our descendants shall be with us.

gandfly....
even you should be able to figure out that a few centuries is like a nano second in the history of the planet....even tho' I won't be here I'd like to think the planet has more than 200 years....
it's obvious that you're a paranoid right winger who fuels his day with paranoid fantasies that warming is a scam or agenda 21....
on the plus side people will have 200 years to accumulate and save up their spit for your grave....

according to the article...it's inevitable but will take a few centuries. Stevie, are you the poster who said "people will be spitting on our grave" or words to that extent?

You are truly a useful idiot-the kind of person who HAS to have a Democrat in the WH and craves a nanny state. Originally Posted by gnadfly

Steve, somehow I suspect you didn't get anything different than what you expected. A bunch of idiotic comments from the resident RWWs, you know, the "Hey, I'll be dead in 200 years so it ain't my problem! Piss on whoever has to clean up my mess after I'm gone" attitude. And of course they immediately find some way to blame the Dems--yes, in their depleated minds that somehow makes sense.

I do wish there was a way to move IIFFy, IB, et.al. to the shore line and require them and their descendants to live at 5' mean sea level or below, since they really don't believe any thing like this is real. Why should they? It might ruin the self-absorbed fairy tale world they want to live in.

Ever draw a population density map and see how many people live within 10 feet of current sea level? But again, most these sick folks really don't care about any humans other than themselves. Sick bastards, actually.

gandfly....
even you should be able to figure out that a few centuries is like a nano second in the history of the planet....even tho' I won't be here I'd like to think the planet has more than 200 years....
it's obvious that you're a paranoid right winger who fuels his day with paranoid fantasies that warming is a scam or agenda 21....
on the plus side people will have 200 years to accumulate and save up their spit for your grave.... Originally Posted by stevepar

You are right. 200 years is but a nanosecond. By the way, how far back does the data go in support of global warming?

The earth warms and cools. It has for billions of years. It will continue, regardless of what we do. Personally, I include many green practices in my personal life. Not because I will "save the planet", but because they make sense.

Ok. The sea may rise. Do what other creatures on this planet have done for millions of years. Adapt or die.

Don't any of you realize that Liberals need Global warming. They need it because it allows them to facilitate a dilemma that only they can solve or minimize. The average liberal can die this minute and come back thirty years from now and liberals will still be talking about Global Warming with as much fervor as they do today, and not one thing will have changed. Liberals live in their own little world that no one else is allowed in, other than other liberals. They also need Obamacare, Gun Control,Terrorism, Gay Marriage, Racism. Socialism, ect. So don't sweat it.

Jim

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it's obvious that you're a paranoid right winger who fuels his day with paranoid fantasies that warming is a scam or agenda 21.... Originally Posted by stevepar

You're so Kool Aid drunk you cannot see the irony in your calling someone else *paranoid*, Stevebogey.

Steve, somehow I suspect you didn't get anything different than what you expected. A bunch of idiotic comments from the resident RWWs, you know, the "Hey, I'll be dead in 200 years so it ain't my problem! Piss on whoever has to clean up my mess after I'm gone" attitude. And of course they immediately find some way to blame the Dems--yes, in their depleated minds that somehow makes sense.

I do wish there was a way to move IIFFy, IB, et.al. to the shore line and require them and their descendants to live at 5' mean sea level or below, since they really don't believe any thing like this is real. Why should they? It might ruin the self-absorbed fairy tale world they want to live in.

Ever draw a population density map and see how many people live within 10 feet of current sea level? But again, most these sick folks really don't care about any humans other than themselves. Sick bastards, actually. Originally Posted by Old-T

Where were you and Al Gore when the Bering Land Bridge disappeared, Old-Twerp? How ever did mankind survive without your ignorant prognostications, Old-Twerp?

You mean the guy who was elected president? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

The re-count paid for and conducted by the lib-retarded MSM proved Gore lost, you lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.

I don't read where the article blames the melt on man made warming?

If this is part of the natural cycle of earth temperatures, unrelated to man's activities, what is your point?