Remember, the Progressive right (Pelosi, Lewis, et al) told us health care was a civil right ;and thinking otherwise was akin to being a racist. But legal Team Obama never made that arguement to the SCOTUS!
BYE, BYE!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...losi-Was-Wrong
- Whirlaway
- 06-25-2012, 05:04 AM
- i'va biggen
- 06-25-2012, 06:09 AM
it is ,if you don't have insurance you can go to a ER or DR office and they must treat you.the ones with insurance will pay for it.
- Guest123018-4
- 06-25-2012, 07:00 AM
The Act, however it is called, should be overturned unanimously, but we all know it will go down the lines of the court as always. It is a shame that judges are appointed based on politics rather than merit.
- Whirlaway
- 06-25-2012, 07:29 AM
- joe bloe
- 06-25-2012, 09:33 AM
There's a percentage of our population that believe flatscreen televisions are a human right. Occasionally these individuals rise up in righteous indignation and demand their right to the latest incarnation of HD technology. Now that the 3D HD LED flatscreens are getting so good, it's likely that we will have serious rioting this summer. Soon we'll be hearing the chants of no justice! no peace! until a sufficient number Best Buys have been looted.
- Ducbutter
- 06-25-2012, 03:37 PM
No one has a civil right to anything that must be provided by someone else. Hospitals cannot deny emergency care to anyone without insurance. Walk into a hospital and tell them you want a tonsilectomy without insurance and they'll laugh at you. Try to see a Gastrointerologist as a self pay. They won't give you an appointment for a consult. Doctors even turn away patients that have insurance called Medicare.
- CJ7
- 06-25-2012, 04:16 PM
There's a percentage of our population that believe flatscreen televisions are a human right. Occasionally these individuals rise up in righteous indignation and demand their right to the latest incarnation of HD technology. Now that the 3D HD LED flatscreens are getting so good, it's likely that we will have serious rioting this summer. Soon we'll be hearing the chants of no justice! no peace! until a sufficient number Best Buys have been looted. Originally Posted by joe bloe
- Sidewinder
- 06-25-2012, 06:04 PM
I have had ZERO difficulty consulting physicians, primary care *OR* specialist (dermatologist, to check out a suspicious-looking wart: a friend of mine was at the time in the process of dying from metastatic melanoma that he'd let go too long, and I didn't particularly want to repeat his experience), as a self-paying patient. It was actually several years after I started working for large companies with good health insurance before I found out that the health insurance would cover routine doctor's visits. I'd always paid them out of my own pocket, figuring that the insurance was there to cover big emergencies (like surgery or hospitalization).
Even in the last couple of years, when I needed to get something checked quickly, the primary care clinic I visited in Austin had no trouble at all taking my MasterCard, after we talked about it and they apologized for thinking that the "MC" I'd put on the form meant "Medicare".
The clinic I normally use won't accept Medicare assignment as primary insurance. They WILL help the patient fill out and file the Medicare reimbursement paperwork. The problem is that Medicare, apparently as a matter of policy, does not cover the actual costs of providing the care.
Even in the last couple of years, when I needed to get something checked quickly, the primary care clinic I visited in Austin had no trouble at all taking my MasterCard, after we talked about it and they apologized for thinking that the "MC" I'd put on the form meant "Medicare".
The clinic I normally use won't accept Medicare assignment as primary insurance. They WILL help the patient fill out and file the Medicare reimbursement paperwork. The problem is that Medicare, apparently as a matter of policy, does not cover the actual costs of providing the care.
- Ducbutter
- 06-25-2012, 06:43 PM
The point I was making is that any Dr., hospital, or clinic has the right to refuse non emergency services to anyone they think hasn't the ability to pay. I tried to get an appointment to consult with a GI doctor as a self pay and not one that I called would accept me. It seems the initial consult is in the $900 range and up so they'll only accept insured patients. Dertmatology isn't typically that costly. I had a cancerous melanoma excised myself some years back. I hope yours went as well as mine Sidewinder.
- Sidewinder
- 06-26-2012, 07:19 AM
In my case, the doctor took one look at it and said "I don't think that's anything to worry about, but we're going to send it over to Dr. XXXX at the university and let him take a look at it" as he was injecting local anaesthetic, clipping the wart, and putting it into a specimen container. The way he said it and how fast he moved, I got the distinct impression that he thought it might in fact be something.
The pathology report came back "dermal nevus, no abnormal changes", nothing to worry about.
The pathology report came back "dermal nevus, no abnormal changes", nothing to worry about.
- joe bloe
- 06-26-2012, 07:57 AM
In my case, the doctor took one look at it and said "I don't think that's anything to worry about, but we're going to send it over to Dr. XXXX at the university and let him take a look at it" as he was injecting local anaesthetic, clipping the wart, and putting it into a specimen container. The way he said it and how fast he moved, I got the distinct impression that he thought it might in fact be something.Didn't Dermal Nevus play right field for the Mets back in the seventies?
The pathology report came back "dermal nevus, no abnormal changes", nothing to worry about. Originally Posted by Sidewinder