guess what else obama gave away in Iran deal

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http://nypost.com/2017/04/24/guess-w...the-iran-deal/

"In a blockbuster exposé, Politico’s Josh Meyer reports that Team Obama overruled veteran prosecutors to free seven Iranians, claiming publicly they’d merely violated economic sanctions. In fact, they were charged with posing threats to US national security as part of a weapons procurement ring.

More, the administration also dropped charges against 14 fugitives involved in smuggling sophisticated weapons to Iran and its terrorist subsidiaries. That move ended the international arrest warrants against the 14 — and Obama & Co. had been obstructing efforts to apprehend them."

so, he did it so he could have a deal for his legacy. see "I" did something.

Idiot. he obviously didn't care about the consequences of the deal that it hampered/interfered with the investigation on those iranian individuals.

he is muslim undoubted.
Was this before or after Obama negotiated the release of the 4 US citizens Iran held?
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Was this before or after Obama negotiated the release of the 4 US citizens Iran held? Originally Posted by gnadfly
from what I'm reading, it looks like its before & after.
http://nypost.com/2017/04/24/guess-w...the-iran-deal/

"In a blockbuster exposé, Politico’s Josh Meyer reports that Team Obama overruled veteran prosecutors to free seven Iranians, claiming publicly they’d merely violated economic sanctions. In fact, they were charged with posing threats to US national security as part of a weapons procurement ring.

More, the administration also dropped charges against 14 fugitives involved in smuggling sophisticated weapons to Iran and its terrorist subsidiaries. That move ended the international arrest warrants against the 14 — and Obama & Co. had been obstructing efforts to apprehend them."

so, he did it so he could have a deal for his legacy. see "I" did something.

Idiot. he obviously didn't care about the consequences of the deal that it hampered/interfered with the investigation on those iranian individuals.

he is muslim undoubted. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
Looks to me like Democrats are so philanthropic to any country who hates us and then allows those countries to build weapons of mass destruction against us and when a sitting President finally has the gonads to stand up to them before those weapons come to materialization to be used against us, "he" is the "bad guy".
I'm speaking of course about President William Jefferson Clinton giving 4 BILLION dollars to North Korea in 1994 for energy, yea and now Phatboy wants to use that money/energy against us.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/10/19/wo...h-koreans.html
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Yall do realize that Reagan gave Iran arms?






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Looks to me like Democrats are so philanthropic to any country who hates us and then allows those countries to build weapons of mass destruction against us and when a sitting President finally has the gonads to stand up to them before those weapons come to materialization to be used against us, "he" is the "bad guy".
I'm speaking of course about President William Jefferson Clinton giving 4 BILLION dollars to North Korea in 1994 for energy, yea and now Phatboy wants to use that money/energy against us.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/10/19/wo...h-koreans.html Originally Posted by Cherie
What were your thoughts of President Reagan selling arms to Iran- you know the same Iran the OP is criticizing. The same Iran who stormed the U.S Embassy and held americans hostages. The same Iran who we also at the time was arming Iraq to overthrow Iran- and yet we were basically supporting them both?

Also Cheri, you are being very deceptive and weak minded. Clinton did something in good faith in 1994- how was he to predict that N.Korea would not honor their agreement? Isn't this similar to when a bank gives you a loan in good faith and the person doesn't pay it back- are you going to attack the bank for giving the person the loan?

Here's a chronological set of events between the U.S and N. Korea- I stopped at end of 1994.
1985
December 12, 1985: North Korea accedes to the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) but does not complete a safeguards agreement with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Under Article III of the NPT, North Korea has 18 months to conclude such an arrangement. In coming years, North Korea links adherence to this provision of the treaty to the withdrawal of U.S. nuclear weapons from South Korea.

1991
September 27, 1991: President George Bush announces the unilateral withdrawal of all naval and land-based tactical nuclear weapons deployed abroad. Approximately 100 U.S. nuclear weapons had been based in South Korea. Eight days later, Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev reciprocates.

November 8, 1991: In response to President Bush’s unilateral move, President Roh Tae Woo of South Korea announces the Declaration on the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, under which South Korea promises not to produce, possess, store, deploy, or use nuclear weapons. In addition, the declaration unilaterally prohibits South Korea from possessing nuclear reprocessing or uranium enrichment facilities. These promises, if enacted, would satisfy all of North Korea’s conditions for allowing IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities.

December 31, 1991: The two Koreas sign the South-North Joint Declaration on the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. Under the declaration, both countries agree not to “test, manufacture, produce, receive, possess, store, deploy or use nuclear weapons” or to “possess nuclear reprocessing and uranium enrichment facilities.” They also agree to mutual inspections for verification.

1992
January 30, 1992: More than six years after signing the NPT, North Korea concludes a comprehensive safeguards agreement with the IAEA.

March 6, 1992: The United States imposes sanctions on North Korea’s Lyongaksan Machineries and Equipment Export Corporation and Changgwang Sinyong Corporation for missile proliferation activities.*

April 9, 1992: North Korea ratifies the safeguards agreement with the IAEA.

May 4, 1992: North Korea submits its nuclear material declarations to the IAEA, declaring seven sites and some 90 grams of plutonium that could be subject to IAEA inspection. Pyongyang claims that the nuclear material was the result of reprocessing 89 defective fuel rods in 1989. The IAEA conducted inspections to verify the completeness of this declaration from mid-1992 to early 1993.

June 23, 1992: The United States imposes “missile sanctions” on the North Korean entities sanctioned in March.*

September 1992: IAEA inspectors discover discrepancies in North Korea’s “initial report” on its nuclear program and ask for clarification on several issues, including the amount of reprocessed plutonium in North Korea.

1993
February 9, 1993: The IAEA demands special inspections of two sites that are believed to store nuclear waste. The request is based on strong evidence that North Korea has been cheating on its commitments under the NPT. North Korea refuses the IAEA’s request.

March 12, 1993: Amid demands for special inspections, North Korea announces its intention to withdraw from the NPT in three months, citing Article X provisions that allow withdrawal for supreme national security considerations.

April 1, 1993: The IAEA declares that North Korea is not adhering to its safeguards agreement and that it cannot guarantee that North Korean nuclear material is not being diverted for nonpeaceful uses.

June 11, 1993: Following talks with the United States in New York, North Korea suspends its decision to pull out of the NPT just before the withdrawal would have become legally effective. North Korea also agrees to the full and impartial application of IAEA safeguards.

For its part, the United States grants assurances against the threat and use of force, including nuclear weapons. Washington also promises not to interfere with North Korea’s internal affairs.

July 19, 1993: After a second round of talks with the United States, North Korea announces in a joint statement that it is “prepared to begin consultations with the IAEA on outstanding safeguards and other issues” and that it is ready to negotiate IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The joint statement also indicates that Pyongyang might consider a deal with the United States to replace its graphite nuclear reactors with light-water reactors (LWRs), which are proliferation resistant.

Late 1993: The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Defense Intelligence Agency estimate that North Korea had separated about 12 kilograms of plutonium. This amount is enough for at least one or two nuclear weapons.

1994
January 1994: The director of the CIA estimates that North Korea may have produced one or two nuclear weapons.

February 15, 1994: North Korea finalizes an agreement with the IAEA to allow inspections of all seven of its declared nuclear facilities, averting sanctions by the United Nations Security Council.

March 1, 1994: IAEA inspectors arrive in North Korea for the first inspections since 1993.

March 21, 1994: Responding to North Korea’s refusal to allow the inspection team to inspect a plutonium reprocessing plant at Yongbyon, the IAEA Board of Governors approves a resolution calling on North Korea to “immediately allow the IAEA to complete all requested inspection activities and to comply fully with its safeguards agreements.”

May 19, 1994: The IAEA confirms that North Korea has begun removing spent fuel from its 5-megawatt nuclear research reactor even though international monitors were not present. The United States and the IAEA had insisted that inspectors be present for any such action because spent fuel can potentially be reprocessed for use in nuclear weapons.

June 13, 1994: North Korea announces its withdrawal from the IAEA. This is distinct from pulling out of the NPT—North Korea is still required to undergo IAEA inspections as part of its NPT obligations. The IAEA contends that North Korea’s safeguards agreement remains in force. However, North Korea no longer participates in IAEA functions as a member state.

June 15, 1994: Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter negotiates a deal with North Korea in which Pyongyang confirms its willingness to “freeze” its nuclear weapons program and resume high-level talks with the United States. Bilateral talks are expected to begin, provided that North Korea allows the IAEA safeguards to remain in place, does not refuel its 5-megawatt nuclear reactor, and does not reprocess any spent nuclear fuel.

July 9, 1994: North Korean President Kim Il Sung dies and is succeeded by his son, Kim Jong Il.

August 12, 1994: An “agreed statement” is signed that establishes a three-stage process for the elimination of North Korea’s nuclear weapons program. In return, the United States promises to move toward normalized economic and diplomatic relations and assures North Korea that it will provide assistance with the construction of proliferation-resistant LWRs to replace North Korea’s graphite-moderated reactors.

October 21, 1994: The United States and North Korea conclude four months of negotiations by adopting the “Agreed Framework” in Geneva. To resolve U.S. concerns about Pyongyang’s plutonium-producing reactors and the Yongbyon reprocessing facility, the agreement calls for North Korea to freeze and eventually eliminate its nuclear facilities, a process that will require dismantling three nuclear reactors, two of which are still under construction. North Korea also allows the IAEA to verify compliance through “special inspections,” and it agrees to allow 8,000 spent nuclear reactor fuel elements to be removed to a third country.

In exchange, Pyongyang will receive two LWRs and annual shipments of heavy fuel oil during construction of the reactors. The LWRs will be financed and constructed through the Korean Peninsula Energy Development Organization (KEDO), a multinational consortium.

Calling for movement toward full normalization of political and economic relations, the accord also serves as a jumping-off point for U.S.-North Korean dialogue on Pyongyang’s development and export of ballistic missiles, as well as other issues of bilateral concern.

November 28, 1994: The IAEA announces that it had confirmed that construction has been halted at North Korea’s Nyongbyon and Taochon nuclear facilities and that these facilities are not operational.
What were your thoughts of President Reagan selling arms to Iran- you know the same Iran the OP is criticizing. The same Iran who stormed the U.S Embassy and held americans hostages. The same Iran who we also at the time was arming Iraq to overthrow Iran- and yet we were basically supporting them both?

Also Cheri, you are being very deceptive and weak minded. Clinton did something in good faith in 1994- how was he to predict that N.Korea would not honor their agreement? Isn't this similar to when a bank gives you a loan in good faith and the person doesn't pay it back- are you going to attack the bank for giving the person the loan?

Here's a chronological set of events between the U.S and N. Korea- I stopped at end of 1994.
1985
December 12, 1985: North Korea accedes to the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) but does not complete a safeguards agreement with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Under Article III of the NPT, North Korea has 18 months to conclude such an arrangement. In coming years, North Korea links adherence to this provision of the treaty to the withdrawal of U.S. nuclear weapons from South Korea.

1991
September 27, 1991: President George Bush announces the unilateral withdrawal of all naval and land-based tactical nuclear weapons deployed abroad. Approximately 100 U.S. nuclear weapons had been based in South Korea. Eight days later, Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev reciprocates.

November 8, 1991: In response to President Bush’s unilateral move, President Roh Tae Woo of South Korea announces the Declaration on the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, under which South Korea promises not to produce, possess, store, deploy, or use nuclear weapons. In addition, the declaration unilaterally prohibits South Korea from possessing nuclear reprocessing or uranium enrichment facilities. These promises, if enacted, would satisfy all of North Korea’s conditions for allowing IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities.

December 31, 1991: The two Koreas sign the South-North Joint Declaration on the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. Under the declaration, both countries agree not to “test, manufacture, produce, receive, possess, store, deploy or use nuclear weapons” or to “possess nuclear reprocessing and uranium enrichment facilities.” They also agree to mutual inspections for verification.

1992
January 30, 1992: More than six years after signing the NPT, North Korea concludes a comprehensive safeguards agreement with the IAEA.

March 6, 1992: The United States imposes sanctions on North Korea’s Lyongaksan Machineries and Equipment Export Corporation and Changgwang Sinyong Corporation for missile proliferation activities.*

April 9, 1992: North Korea ratifies the safeguards agreement with the IAEA.

May 4, 1992: North Korea submits its nuclear material declarations to the IAEA, declaring seven sites and some 90 grams of plutonium that could be subject to IAEA inspection. Pyongyang claims that the nuclear material was the result of reprocessing 89 defective fuel rods in 1989. The IAEA conducted inspections to verify the completeness of this declaration from mid-1992 to early 1993.

June 23, 1992: The United States imposes “missile sanctions” on the North Korean entities sanctioned in March.*

September 1992: IAEA inspectors discover discrepancies in North Korea’s “initial report” on its nuclear program and ask for clarification on several issues, including the amount of reprocessed plutonium in North Korea.

1993
February 9, 1993: The IAEA demands special inspections of two sites that are believed to store nuclear waste. The request is based on strong evidence that North Korea has been cheating on its commitments under the NPT. North Korea refuses the IAEA’s request.

March 12, 1993: Amid demands for special inspections, North Korea announces its intention to withdraw from the NPT in three months, citing Article X provisions that allow withdrawal for supreme national security considerations.

April 1, 1993: The IAEA declares that North Korea is not adhering to its safeguards agreement and that it cannot guarantee that North Korean nuclear material is not being diverted for nonpeaceful uses.

June 11, 1993: Following talks with the United States in New York, North Korea suspends its decision to pull out of the NPT just before the withdrawal would have become legally effective. North Korea also agrees to the full and impartial application of IAEA safeguards.

For its part, the United States grants assurances against the threat and use of force, including nuclear weapons. Washington also promises not to interfere with North Korea’s internal affairs.

July 19, 1993: After a second round of talks with the United States, North Korea announces in a joint statement that it is “prepared to begin consultations with the IAEA on outstanding safeguards and other issues” and that it is ready to negotiate IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The joint statement also indicates that Pyongyang might consider a deal with the United States to replace its graphite nuclear reactors with light-water reactors (LWRs), which are proliferation resistant.

Late 1993: The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Defense Intelligence Agency estimate that North Korea had separated about 12 kilograms of plutonium. This amount is enough for at least one or two nuclear weapons.

1994
January 1994: The director of the CIA estimates that North Korea may have produced one or two nuclear weapons.

February 15, 1994: North Korea finalizes an agreement with the IAEA to allow inspections of all seven of its declared nuclear facilities, averting sanctions by the United Nations Security Council.

March 1, 1994: IAEA inspectors arrive in North Korea for the first inspections since 1993.

March 21, 1994: Responding to North Korea’s refusal to allow the inspection team to inspect a plutonium reprocessing plant at Yongbyon, the IAEA Board of Governors approves a resolution calling on North Korea to “immediately allow the IAEA to complete all requested inspection activities and to comply fully with its safeguards agreements.”

May 19, 1994: The IAEA confirms that North Korea has begun removing spent fuel from its 5-megawatt nuclear research reactor even though international monitors were not present. The United States and the IAEA had insisted that inspectors be present for any such action because spent fuel can potentially be reprocessed for use in nuclear weapons.

June 13, 1994: North Korea announces its withdrawal from the IAEA. This is distinct from pulling out of the NPT—North Korea is still required to undergo IAEA inspections as part of its NPT obligations. The IAEA contends that North Korea’s safeguards agreement remains in force. However, North Korea no longer participates in IAEA functions as a member state.

June 15, 1994: Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter negotiates a deal with North Korea in which Pyongyang confirms its willingness to “freeze” its nuclear weapons program and resume high-level talks with the United States. Bilateral talks are expected to begin, provided that North Korea allows the IAEA safeguards to remain in place, does not refuel its 5-megawatt nuclear reactor, and does not reprocess any spent nuclear fuel.

July 9, 1994: North Korean President Kim Il Sung dies and is succeeded by his son, Kim Jong Il.

August 12, 1994: An “agreed statement” is signed that establishes a three-stage process for the elimination of North Korea’s nuclear weapons program. In return, the United States promises to move toward normalized economic and diplomatic relations and assures North Korea that it will provide assistance with the construction of proliferation-resistant LWRs to replace North Korea’s graphite-moderated reactors.

October 21, 1994: The United States and North Korea conclude four months of negotiations by adopting the “Agreed Framework” in Geneva. To resolve U.S. concerns about Pyongyang’s plutonium-producing reactors and the Yongbyon reprocessing facility, the agreement calls for North Korea to freeze and eventually eliminate its nuclear facilities, a process that will require dismantling three nuclear reactors, two of which are still under construction. North Korea also allows the IAEA to verify compliance through “special inspections,” and it agrees to allow 8,000 spent nuclear reactor fuel elements to be removed to a third country.

In exchange, Pyongyang will receive two LWRs and annual shipments of heavy fuel oil during construction of the reactors. The LWRs will be financed and constructed through the Korean Peninsula Energy Development Organization (KEDO), a multinational consortium.

Calling for movement toward full normalization of political and economic relations, the accord also serves as a jumping-off point for U.S.-North Korean dialogue on Pyongyang’s development and export of ballistic missiles, as well as other issues of bilateral concern.

November 28, 1994: The IAEA announces that it had confirmed that construction has been halted at North Korea’s Nyongbyon and Taochon nuclear facilities and that these facilities are not operational. Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt
YOU would fit right in with the NORKs " seArgent shitburner " with the way that YOU LIE !
What were your thoughts of President Reagan selling arms to Iran- you know the same Iran the OP is criticizing. The same Iran who stormed the U.S Embassy and held americans hostages. The same Iran who we also at the time was arming Iraq to overthrow Iran- and yet we were basically supporting them both?

Also Cheri, you are being very deceptive and weak minded. Clinton did something in good faith in 1994- how was he to predict that N.Korea would not honor their agreement? Isn't this similar to when a bank gives you a loan in good faith and the person doesn't pay it back- are you going to attack the bank for giving the person the loan?

Here's a chronological set of events between the U.S and N. Korea- I stopped at end of 1994.
1985
December 12, 1985: North Korea accedes to the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) but does not complete a safeguards agreement with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Under Article III of the NPT, North Korea has 18 months to conclude such an arrangement. In coming years, North Korea links adherence to this provision of the treaty to the withdrawal of U.S. nuclear weapons from South Korea.


1991
September 27, 1991: President George Bush announces the unilateral withdrawal of all naval and land-based tactical nuclear weapons deployed abroad. Approximately 100 U.S. nuclear weapons had been based in South Korea. Eight days later, Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev reciprocates.

November 8, 1991: In response to President Bush’s unilateral move, President Roh Tae Woo of South Korea announces the Declaration on the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, under which South Korea promises not to produce, possess, store, deploy, or use nuclear weapons. In addition, the declaration unilaterally prohibits South Korea from possessing nuclear reprocessing or uranium enrichment facilities. These promises, if enacted, would satisfy all of North Korea’s conditions for allowing IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities.

December 31, 1991: The two Koreas sign the South-North Joint Declaration on the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. Under the declaration, both countries agree not to “test, manufacture, produce, receive, possess, store, deploy or use nuclear weapons” or to “possess nuclear reprocessing and uranium enrichment facilities.” They also agree to mutual inspections for verification.

1992
January 30, 1992: More than six years after signing the NPT, North Korea concludes a comprehensive safeguards agreement with the IAEA.

March 6, 1992: The United States imposes sanctions on North Korea’s Lyongaksan Machineries and Equipment Export Corporation and Changgwang Sinyong Corporation for missile proliferation activities.*

April 9, 1992: North Korea ratifies the safeguards agreement with the IAEA.

May 4, 1992: North Korea submits its nuclear material declarations to the IAEA, declaring seven sites and some 90 grams of plutonium that could be subject to IAEA inspection. Pyongyang claims that the nuclear material was the result of reprocessing 89 defective fuel rods in 1989. The IAEA conducted inspections to verify the completeness of this declaration from mid-1992 to early 1993.

June 23, 1992: The United States imposes “missile sanctions” on the North Korean entities sanctioned in March.*

September 1992: IAEA inspectors discover discrepancies in North Korea’s “initial report” on its nuclear program and ask for clarification on several issues, including the amount of reprocessed plutonium in North Korea.

1993
February 9, 1993: The IAEA demands special inspections of two sites that are believed to store nuclear waste. The request is based on strong evidence that North Korea has been cheating on its commitments under the NPT. North Korea refuses the IAEA’s request.

March 12, 1993: Amid demands for special inspections, North Korea announces its intention to withdraw from the NPT in three months, citing Article X provisions that allow withdrawal for supreme national security considerations.

April 1, 1993: The IAEA declares that North Korea is not adhering to its safeguards agreement and that it cannot guarantee that North Korean nuclear material is not being diverted for nonpeaceful uses.

June 11, 1993: Following talks with the United States in New York, North Korea suspends its decision to pull out of the NPT just before the withdrawal would have become legally effective. North Korea also agrees to the full and impartial application of IAEA safeguards.

For its part, the United States grants assurances against the threat and use of force, including nuclear weapons. Washington also promises not to interfere with North Korea’s internal affairs.

July 19, 1993: After a second round of talks with the United States, North Korea announces in a joint statement that it is “prepared to begin consultations with the IAEA on outstanding safeguards and other issues” and that it is ready to negotiate IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The joint statement also indicates that Pyongyang might consider a deal with the United States to replace its graphite nuclear reactors with light-water reactors (LWRs), which are proliferation resistant.

Late 1993: The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Defense Intelligence Agency estimate that North Korea had separated about 12 kilograms of plutonium. This amount is enough for at least one or two nuclear weapons.

1994
January 1994: The director of the CIA estimates that North Korea may have produced one or two nuclear weapons.

February 15, 1994: North Korea finalizes an agreement with the IAEA to allow inspections of all seven of its declared nuclear facilities, averting sanctions by the United Nations Security Council.

March 1, 1994: IAEA inspectors arrive in North Korea for the first inspections since 1993.

March 21, 1994: Responding to North Korea’s refusal to allow the inspection team to inspect a plutonium reprocessing plant at Yongbyon, the IAEA Board of Governors approves a resolution calling on North Korea to “immediately allow the IAEA to complete all requested inspection activities and to comply fully with its safeguards agreements.”

May 19, 1994: The IAEA confirms that North Korea has begun removing spent fuel from its 5-megawatt nuclear research reactor even though international monitors were not present. The United States and the IAEA had insisted that inspectors be present for any such action because spent fuel can potentially be reprocessed for use in nuclear weapons.

June 13, 1994: North Korea announces its withdrawal from the IAEA. This is distinct from pulling out of the NPT—North Korea is still required to undergo IAEA inspections as part of its NPT obligations. The IAEA contends that North Korea’s safeguards agreement remains in force. However, North Korea no longer participates in IAEA functions as a member state.

June 15, 1994: Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter negotiates a deal with North Korea in which Pyongyang confirms its willingness to “freeze” its nuclear weapons program and resume high-level talks with the United States. Bilateral talks are expected to begin, provided that North Korea allows the IAEA safeguards to remain in place, does not refuel its 5-megawatt nuclear reactor, and does not reprocess any spent nuclear fuel.

July 9, 1994: North Korean President Kim Il Sung dies and is succeeded by his son, Kim Jong Il.

August 12, 1994: An “agreed statement” is signed that establishes a three-stage process for the elimination of North Korea’s nuclear weapons program. In return, the United States promises to move toward normalized economic and diplomatic relations and assures North Korea that it will provide assistance with the construction of proliferation-resistant LWRs to replace North Korea’s graphite-moderated reactors.

October 21, 1994: The United States and North Korea conclude four months of negotiations by adopting the “Agreed Framework” in Geneva. To resolve U.S. concerns about Pyongyang’s plutonium-producing reactors and the Yongbyon reprocessing facility, the agreement calls for North Korea to freeze and eventually eliminate its nuclear facilities, a process that will require dismantling three nuclear reactors, two of which are still under construction. North Korea also allows the IAEA to verify compliance through “special inspections,” and it agrees to allow 8,000 spent nuclear reactor fuel elements to be removed to a third country.

In exchange, Pyongyang will receive two LWRs and annual shipments of heavy fuel oil during construction of the reactors. The LWRs will be financed and constructed through the Korean Peninsula Energy Development Organization (KEDO), a multinational consortium.

Calling for movement toward full normalization of political and economic relations, the accord also serves as a jumping-off point for U.S.-North Korean dialogue on Pyongyang’s development and export of ballistic missiles, as well as other issues of bilateral concern.

November 28, 1994: The IAEA announces that it had confirmed that construction has been halted at North Korea’s Nyongbyon and Taochon nuclear facilities and that these facilities are not operational. Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt
I thank you for your most analytical assessment of part of the chronological history NK and the many mistakes the world has made with a regime who does not want to abide by any societal dictum.

However, with the many past mistakes (Reagan's included) that the world has made with a family of "nutjobs" aka sociopaths (I know Sexy Rexy doesn't think so but it is however my conclusion) I believe we "ALL" need to come together as a nation and as world to eradicate this threat once and for all before they do come up with missiles that continent jump instead of just falling into the sea. Remember practice makes perfect and who knows what Rhouhani and Phatboy are up to, are they working in tandem??? I think it is a very good possibility.
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Remember practice makes perfect and who knows what Rhouhani and Phatboy are up to, are they working in tandem??? I think it is a very good possibility. Originally Posted by Cherie
It's more than a "good possibility". It's a fact. North Korea and Iran have been colluding and sharing nuclear and missile technology for decades now. Even while Obama and Kerry were negotiating the Iran nuclear agreement, North Korean scientists were visiting Tehran and Iranian scientists were visiting Pyongyang. All of those mutual exchanges were hushed up by the obama administration and the compliant mainstream media.
http://nypost.com/2017/04/24/guess-w...the-iran-deal/

"In a blockbuster exposé, Politico’s Josh Meyer reports that Team Obama overruled veteran prosecutors to free seven Iranians, claiming publicly they’d merely violated economic sanctions. In fact, they were charged with posing threats to US national security as part of a weapons procurement ring.

More, the administration also dropped charges against 14 fugitives involved in smuggling sophisticated weapons to Iran and its terrorist subsidiaries. That move ended the international arrest warrants against the 14 — and Obama & Co. had been obstructing efforts to apprehend them."

so, he did it so he could have a deal for his legacy. see "I" did something.

Idiot. he obviously didn't care about the consequences of the deal that it hampered/interfered with the investigation on those iranian individuals.

he is muslim undoubted. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm


This one is more fitting for your level of understanding....
[QUOTE=Luke_Wyatt;1059455290]What were your thoughts of President Reagan selling arms to Iran- you know the same Iran the OP is criticizing. The same Iran who stormed the U.S Embassy and held americans hostages. The same Iran who we also at the time was arming Iraq to overthrow Iran- and yet we were basically supporting them both?

Also Cheri, you are being very deceptive and weak minded.(the only one that is weak minded is you fat ass) Clinton did something in good faith in 1994- how was he to predict that N.Korea would not honor their agreement? Isn't this similar to when a bank gives you a loan in good faith and the person doesn't pay it back(no dipshit is not the same) are you going to attack the bank for giving the person the loan?

These two paragraphs show how lame you really are you should stick to feeding your fat face fat ass
Looks to me like Democrats are so philanthropic to any country who hates us and then allows those countries to build weapons of mass destruction against us and when a sitting President finally has the gonads to stand up to them before those weapons come to materialization to be used against us, "he" is the "bad guy".
I'm speaking of course about President William Jefferson Clinton giving 4 BILLION dollars to North Korea in 1994 for energy, yea and now Phatboy wants to use that money/energy against us.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/10/19/wo...h-koreans.html Originally Posted by Cherie


I even thought not to post any link here, that's how ignorant I thought you really are.


http://washingtonmonthly.com/magazin...ling-blunder-2


This one is more fitting for your level of understanding.... Originally Posted by andymarksman
MORON OF MORONS
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I thank you for your most analytical assessment of part of the chronological history NK and the many mistakes the world has made with a regime who does not want to abide by any societal dictum.

However, with the many past mistakes (Reagan's included) that the world has made with a family of "nutjobs" aka sociopaths (I know Sexy Rexy doesn't think so but it is however my conclusion) I believe we "ALL" need to come together as a nation and as world to eradicate this threat once and for all before they do come up with missiles that continent jump instead of just falling into the sea. Remember practice makes perfect and who knows what Rhouhani and Phatboy are up to, are they working in tandem??? I think it is a very good possibility. Originally Posted by Cherie
Cherie thank you for your response- we have disagreed on many occasions, but I will give you credit for responding in a very intellectual manner. However Cherie- I don't think you should have blamed Clinton since he can't predict the future and had no way of knowing that N.Korean would be a pain in our side decades later- just as we didn't know when we were arming Osama Bin Laden to fight the Soviets in Afganistan we didn't know he would turn out to be a leader of a terrorist group hell bent on destroying the United States.


However, Cherie this is something that I think we need to all accept- it was 1945 when we dropped the H-Bomb, that was over 70 years ago- the technology is out there to build similar bombs and countries know that having a Nuke surely will deter someone from attacking you. In the same manner that homeowners should be allowed a gun to protect their homes because if a burglar knows all you have is a kitchen knife for protection he's going to take the risk.
I do think that Iran has the right to develop nukes considering their situation- number 1- they are neighbors to a country(Iraq) that invaded them- they have the Soviets to their north and the presence of U.S troops in Afghanistan to their west- so why shouldn't they feel alarmed? I think the same of Israel, but it's rumored that they have nukes- they are surrounded by hostile enemies and should be able to protect their land.
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Cherie thank you for your response- we have disagreed on many occasions, but I will give you credit for responding in a very intellectual manner. However Cherie- I don't think you should have blamed Clinton since he can't predict the future and had no way of knowing that N.Korean would be a pain in our side decades later- just as we didn't know when we were arming Osama Bin Laden to fight the Soviets in Afganistan we didn't know he would turn out to be a leader of a terrorist group hell bent on destroying the United States.


However, Cherie this is something that I think we need to all accept- it was 1945 when we dropped the H-Bomb, that was over 70 years ago- the technology is out there to build similar bombs and countries know that having a Nuke surely will deter someone from attacking you. In the same manner that homeowners should be allowed a gun to protect their homes because if a burglar knows all you have is a kitchen knife for protection he's going to take the risk.
I do think that Iran has the right to develop nukes considering their situation- number 1- they are neighbors to a country(Iraq) that invaded them- they have the Soviets to their north and the presence of U.S troops in Afghanistan to their west- so why shouldn't they feel alarmed? I think the same of Israel, but it's rumored that they have nukes- they are surrounded by hostile enemies and should be able to protect their land. Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

nuclear physics not your strong suit? that's atomic bomb. the hydrogen bomb wasn't developed and tested until 1952.