Senate Report EXPOSES TRUMP's Russia Collusion!

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YES! FINALLY EVIL LORD TRUMP HAS BEEN EXPOSED AS A RUSSKIE OPERATIVE! WE ALL KNEW IT HAD TO BE TRUE!

TRUMP AND MISS MOSCOW!

BAHHAHAAAAA

this is the best these idiots have?

Trump and Miss Moscow: Report Examines Possible Compromises in Russia Trips


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-miss-mo...120923516.html


Michael S. Schmidt

,The New York TimesAugust 19, 2020





Two decades before he ran for president, Donald J. Trump traveled to Russia, where he scouted properties, was wined and dined and, of greatest significance to Senate intelligence investigators, met a woman who was a former Miss Moscow.

A Trump associate, Robert Curran, who was interviewed by the Senate investigators, said he believed Trump may have had a romantic relationship with the woman. On the same trip, another Trump associate, Leon D. Black, told investigators that he and Trump “might have been in a strip club together.” Another witness said that Trump may have been with other women in Moscow and later brought them along to a meeting with the mayor.

Trump was married to Marla Maples at the time.

Curran is an American photographer whose work hung in Trump’s SoHo hotel. Black is a founder of the private equity firm Apollo Global Management.



The allegations about Trump were included in the fifth and final volume of a bipartisan report released Tuesday by the Senate Intelligence Committee, which presented potentially compromising information that the Russians may have on Trump and could use against him as leverage.

But at the same time, the committee cast some doubt on the significance of the allegations, saying investigators “did not establish” that the Russian government actually had compromising information on Trump. The report also said there was no evidence the Russians had sought to blackmail Trump or others working for his 2016 presidential campaign.

The report justified the inclusion of the salacious details about the president as necessary to understand the threat of a possible foreign influence operation or whether misinformation was spreading that could harm the American political process. The details were in a section of the report about the Russian art of “kompromat,” or disseminating damaging information to discredit a rival or an enemy, which can pose a national security threat by targeting American officials.

Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., who is the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said in an interview that he wanted to let the section about whether Trump was potentially compromised by the Russians speak for itself.

“On that subject, I would simply say Americans should read the report and make their own conclusions,” Warner said.

The White House denounced the report Tuesday. “After a special counsel, numerous other committee investigations and four prior reports from this committee, the Senate intelligence report affirms what we have known for years. There was absolutely no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia,” said Judd Deere, a White House spokesman. Deere called the report part of “a never-ending, baseless conspiracy theory peddled by radical liberals and their partners in the media.’’

There are long-standing questions about the president’s affinity for Russia, which intervened in the 2016 campaign to help Trump, according to U.S. intelligence agencies, a special counsel investigation and the current Senate Intelligence Committee report. Trump has called it all a hoax, publicly accepted President Vladimir Putin’s word that Russia did not interfere and pushed policies helpful to Putin and his government.

This month, Trump rejected warnings from the U.S. intelligence agencies that Russia is trying to help him win reelection in 2020.

“Collectively, the allegations raised a potential counterintelligence concern, that Russia might use compromising information to influence the then-presidential candidate’s positions on relations with Russia,” the report said. “The committee sought, in a limited way, to understand the Russian government’s alleged collection of such information, not only because of the threat of a potential foreign influence operation, but also to explore the possibility of a misinformation operation targeting the integrity of the U.S. political process.”

The report released Tuesday provided one of the most detailed official accounts of Trump’s time in Russia. More than dozens of pages in the nearly 1,000-page document, the report said that a Marriott executive told committee investigators that after Trump traveled to Russia in 2013 for the Miss Universe pageant the executive overheard two colleagues who worked at the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow discussing video footage that they said showed Trump with women in an elevator at the hotel.

Similar accusations have arisen before. A dossier of largely unverified information compiled by a former British spy, Christopher Steele, about Trump’s ties to Russia claimed that during Trump’s 2013 trip to Moscow there was video of him with prostitutes in his Ritz-Carlton hotel room. A person Steele relied on for that information later told the FBI that the allegation was just a rumor he was passing along.

The Ritz-Carlton, the Senate report said, is a “high counterintelligence risk environment” that has “at least one permanent Russian intelligence officer on staff, government surveillance of guests’ rooms and the regular presence of a large number of prostitutes, likely with at least the tacit approval of Russian authorities.”

The Marriott executive told the committee that one of the colleagues he overheard discussing the footage from the Ritz-Carlton said the video showed Trump “with several women” in the elevator, whom the colleague “implied to be ‘hostesses.’”

The executive said that the colleagues were discussing how to deal with the recording. But as they went back and forth about the matter, they moved to a more private place where it was more difficult to hear the conversation.

The committee interviewed the two colleagues who said they did not recall seeing the recording.

“The committee was not able to resolve these discrepancies,” the report said.

The report also said that a Trump associate, David Geovanis, an American businessman based in Russia who was in Moscow for the 1996 visit, continued to discuss Trump’s relationship with the former Miss Moscow after the president’s inauguration in 2017. According to the committee report, Curran, the photographer and a friend of Geovanis, told Senate investigators that he had asked Geovanis, “What exactly happened … did they hook up, or whatever?’’

Geovanis responded, Curran told the investigators, with “Yeah, well, I saw them again the next day and they were together, so.”
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Are the Russians the ones picking up blue mail boxes?

I have a brilliant idea: If a LoonaTick doesn't know where a "blue P.O." drop box is located ... leave your ballot in your RESIDENCE MAIL BOX for the carrier to get!!!!

(Of course: If you are homeless and/or an illegal alien that might not be an option!)

I'm glad Trump like's Russian pussy. We have one more thing in common.
Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., who is the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said in an interview that he wanted to let the section about whether Trump was potentially compromised by the Russians speak for itself.

“On that subject, I would simply say Americans should read the report and make their own conclusions,” Warner said.
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

mark warner, the schmuck, he had real live, while in office, meetings with russian operatives, he texted one in regard to a meeting in london, wherein he told the russian he didn't want to leave a paper trail
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This report was generated by a Republican predominant bi-partisan Senate committee. Not "radical liberals and the media".

It detailed,affirmed,and actually expanded upon much of what the Mueller report found.In other words it validated the Mueller report findings.

Even if one questions some of what led to the Mueller investigation,both Mueller and the mainly Republican Senate Committee found a bunch of sketchy shit.

They found evidently no "provable" case of collusion to an extent necessary to charge and convict a sitting president,which is a pretty high legal bar.

In other words they did not find a written signed contract between Trump and Putin stating Trump would help Putin on sanctions if Putin would help him win election.

There is a "theory" out there.I don't know enough to comment either way about it.But I was going to look into it.

But it's out there ; That Trump is a Russian agent.
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BS... The Russians wanted Hillary... what a fucking lie!!!
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This report was generated by a Republican predominant ... Originally Posted by sportfisherman
#1: Trump is a Democrat! #2: A "Republican" just gave an AntiTrump speech at the DNC convention .... and the number of AntiTrump Republicans is endless.

The only living thing in this country at the moment that is ...

.... "bipartisan" .... is an earthworm who hasn't been unearthed!

Did they say anything in the report about it being inappropriate to kick someone in the head after they have been beaten to the ground and can't get up? How about beating the shit out of a transgender "female"? Looting stores? Burning government buildings? Shooting young ones?

The Russians .... Chinese .... and just about every other major country in this World tries to fuck with our elections .... every time we have one ... and it's been going on for years .... The Obaminable administration knew about it ... and didn't do shit ... with it .... except use it as an excuse to spy on Trump and then after they lost the election have been using it to disqualify the election!!

When there is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE it changed one vote. And NO EVIDENCE it has a damn thing to do with Trump's policy for or against the Russians. Because if the Russians really did make him President .... I bet they are really pissed at HIM!
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So, as usual, you guys rely on the spin of your trusted 3 sources without bothering to read the republican approved report.


Here are some of the committee’s own findings about Trump campaign engagement with the Russian electoral interference—findings subscribed to by each and every one of the senators who protests that they did not find “collusion”:
  • "The Committee found that Manafort’s presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort’s high-level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services . . . represented a grave counterintelligence threat.”
  • "While [Russian military intelligence] and WikiLeaks were releasing hacked documents, the Trump Campaign sought to maximize the impact of those leaks to aid Trump’s electoral prospects. Staff on the Trump Campaign sought advance notice about WikiLeaks releases, created messaging strategies to promote and share the materials in anticipation of and following their release, and encouraged further leaks. The Trump Campaign publicly undermined the attribution of the hack-and-leak campaign to Russia and was indifferent to whether it and WikiLeaks were furthering a Russian election interference effort.”
  • “Trump and senior Campaign officials sought to obtain advance information about WikiLeaks’s planned releases through Roger Stone.”
  • “The Committee further found that Papadopoulos’s efforts introduced him to several individuals that raise counterintelligence concerns, due to their associations with individuals from hostile foreign governments, as well as actions these individuals undertook. The Committee assesses that Papadopoulos was not a witting cooptee of the Russian intelligence services, but nonetheless presented a prime intelligence target and potential vector for malign Russian influence.”
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So, as usual, you guys rely on the spin of your trusted 3 sources without bothering to read the republican approved report.


Here are some of the committee’s own findings about Trump campaign engagement with the Russian electoral interference—findings subscribed to by each and every one of the senators who protests that they did not find “collusion”:
  • "The Committee found that Manafort’s presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort’s high-level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services . . . represented a grave counterintelligence threat.”
  • "While [Russian military intelligence] and WikiLeaks were releasing hacked documents, the Trump Campaign sought to maximize the impact of those leaks to aid Trump’s electoral prospects. Staff on the Trump Campaign sought advance notice about WikiLeaks releases, created messaging strategies to promote and share the materials in anticipation of and following their release, and encouraged further leaks. The Trump Campaign publicly undermined the attribution of the hack-and-leak campaign to Russia and was indifferent to whether it and WikiLeaks were furthering a Russian election interference effort.”
  • “Trump and senior Campaign officials sought to obtain advance information about WikiLeaks’s planned releases through Roger Stone.”
  • “The Committee further found that Papadopoulos’s efforts introduced him to several individuals that raise counterintelligence concerns, due to their associations with individuals from hostile foreign governments, as well as actions these individuals undertook. The Committee assesses that Papadopoulos was not a witting cooptee of the Russian intelligence services, but nonetheless presented a prime intelligence target and potential vector for malign Russian influence.”
Originally Posted by smokedog01

pay attention. i posted a scathing takedown of Evil Lord Trump by his staunch media ally ..

The NY Times

BHAHAHAAA
A BIG FAT NOTHING BURGER!!!

Same refrain for almost 4 years!

Weird, the Democrats started off the term saying that Trump was going to start a nuclear war with Russia. About 2 months later "Trump is a Russian Agent."

Here's the sad, sad truth that's been acknowledge by few in the MSM.

There's no picture pre-election of Putin and Trump together. They were all shopped.

Trump admits that he met Putin once. He doesn't remember where or why other than it was a social event.

Hillary is the one that uses Russian agents and it's been proven.
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Originally Posted by matchingmole
+1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pleasurem's Avatar
Still, 3 years of lies and still lying... geez, how in the hell do these Dems believe anything they think is right...
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So, as usual, you guys rely on the spin of your trusted 3 sources without bothering to read the republican approved report.


Here are some of the committee’s own findings about Trump campaign engagement with the Russian electoral interference—findings subscribed to by each and every one of the senators who protests that they did not find “collusion”:


I get the feeling that you think these 3 bullet points actually prove "collusion". Do I have that right? Warner says the reader will have to draw there own conclusions. I guess that's because the conclusion of the report, is that no evidence was found of any conspiracy between any member of the Trump campaign and Russian Intelligence to interfere in the election. That's the conclusion signed by every member of the committee. If Democrats believe anything different than that, why sign the report? Why not say "we disagree, we believe there was a conspiracy and here is our proof". If they did that, I am not aware of it and if they did, please correct my mis-understanding. So as Sen. Warner suggests, here are my conclusions.

  • "The Committee found that Manafort’s presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort’s high-level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services . . . represented a grave counterintelligence threat.”
Ok, but did he conspire with Russian Intelligence to interfere in the election? If he did, why didn't Mueller charge him with that specific crime? Or are we to believe that Mueller did find that but that Mueller just couldn't prove it? Or did Mueller figure he had enough with the process crime of lying and some fraud charges and thought he would just let the whole conspiracy thing go?



https://www.vox.com/2020/8/18/213736...a-trump-report


It’s strong, bipartisan pushback against the common claim that there was “nothing there.”


The common claim? It was never my claim. The "nothing there" refers to the conspiracy. There was absolutely "something there", Russia did absolutely "try" to interfere, there just isn't a shred of evidence that they changed a single vote or got any American to change their mind from voting for Hillary to voting for Trump after reading Russian propaganda on the internet. We have the infamous "pizzagate" where some fool thought Hillary was running a child sex ring but does anybody believe he was a Hillary supporter before he read that and changed his vote to Trump only then? Has any reporter ever found one single American that will swear they were fooled by the Russian propaganda and was going to vote for Hillary before reading it and then decided to vote for Trump after reading it? If there is, I'm un-aware of it. Please share with me that evidence if you have it. I guess I could be wrong. Now all you have to do is prove it but then this is where one of you will tell me that they don't have to prove anything to me. This is from the above article



Trump’s campaign chair Paul Manafort, a globetrotting political consultant who made millions working for Ukraine’s pro-Russian political faction, was always a major focus of collusion questions, and of Mueller’s investigation. Mueller eventually charged Manafort with various financial and other crimes connected to his Ukraine work. After being convicted at trial on one set of charges in 2018, Manafort pleaded guilty to other charges.
But none of these crimes were directly about conspiring with the Russian government to affect the election.

So Mueller found no conspiracy even from the one and only guy they had hard evidence of Manafort sharing information with a Russian operative about Trump's internal polling

And while Mueller’s report did disclose that Manafort shared internal Trump campaign polling data to his longtime associate, Russian national Konstantin Kilimnik, he did not make any allegations of Manafort being centrally involved in a conspiracy with the Russian government.


Maybe that's because what Manafort did was for Manafort's personal financial gain and was not done with coordination with Trump to interfere in the election. I don't know how anybody could read it any other way. So what all this comes down to is being pissed that Russia "tried" to help Trump but that Trump did not conspire with them to do so. Is it Trumps fault that Russia tried to do this? You may hold it against him but he was not criminally culpable. Get over it.
Conclusion 1: Mueller could not charge anybody with conspiracy because there was no evidence of conspiracy.


  • "While [Russian military intelligence] and WikiLeaks were releasing hacked documents, the Trump Campaign sought to maximize the impact of those leaks to aid Trump’s electoral prospects. Staff on the Trump Campaign sought advance notice about WikiLeaks releases, created messaging strategies to promote and share the materials in anticipation of and following their release, and encouraged further leaks. The Trump Campaign publicly undermined the attribution of the hack-and-leak campaign to Russia and was indifferent to whether it and WikiLeaks were furthering a Russian election interference effort.”
Now here's the real irony of this. It was the media that was complicit in spreading the leaked information as media is want to do. As long as one is not involved in the hacking and the Trump campaign was never accused of that, there was no criminal involvement. Now I can see how one could be pissed at the media sharing information to hurt "the other candidate". Lord knows we saw enough of that from the Democrats. Buts lets be very clear what this information was. It was the truth. It was what Democrats wrote about other Democrats and while it would be illegal to hack for that information, it is not illegal to spread it whether you are a Presidential campaign or the media. As to undermining the attribution of the hack and leak to Russia, Democrats played a huge roll in that by refusing to co-operate with the FBI on finding out who did the hacking and hired Crowd Strike to do the investigation. That is what lead to wondering if there was something else going on here.

  • “Trump and senior Campaign officials sought to obtain advance information about WikiLeaks’s planned releases through Roger Stone.”
Again, not a crime. And there was no evidence that anybody other than Roger Stone sought to do this and no evidence that I am aware of that he did and it can be proven. Was Roger stone charged with that crime?The crime is in stealing it like stealing the Pentagon Papers. Printing/ spreading that information once known is not a crime but if it were, wouldn't spreading information of Trump asking prostitutes to piss on a bed ( from the Steele dossier ) that Obama once slept on be a crime as well as all the other un-proven allegations of things Trump didn't do? Roger Stone was charged with lying about who he spoke to and witness tampering, not to anything he DID involving disseminating information from Wiki-Leaks. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.! Why is that do you suppose


And HELLO! Anybody remember Hillary Clinton paying a foreign national to dig up dirt on her political opponent, Trump and from where did they get this dirt to be used against Trump? FROM RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE FOR CHRIST"S SAKE! Where the fuck is that in this report?

  • “The Committee further found that Papadopoulos’s efforts introduced him to several individuals that raise counterintelligence concerns, due to their associations with individuals from hostile foreign governments, as well as actions these individuals undertook. The Committee assesses that Papadopoulos was not a witting cooptee of the Russian intelligence services, but nonetheless presented a prime intelligence target and potential vector for malign Russian influence.”
Originally Posted by smokedog01

OH! So P wasn't a witting ( willing ) co-optee of the Russian Intelligence service. In other words, he did not conspire to interfere in the election and ALSO was never charged with conspiracy. But I have the feeling when the Durham report comes out, we are going to hear a lot more about how P was co-opted by our own CIA and perhaps other Western Intelligence like Great Britain, Australia and Italy.


Notice a word used a lot in this document, POTENTIAL. Well potential is not a crime either.



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So yous guys don’t even believed your own leaders?

What is Trump came out and admitted it himself? Would he lying, or would yous?

You poor buggers got caught in your own vicious cycles.

Sad for yous.

LLING!
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OH! So P wasn't a witting ( willing ) co-optee of the Russian Intelligence service. In other words, he did not conspire to interfere in the election and ALSO was never charged with conspiracy. But I have the feeling when the Durham report comes out, we are going to hear a lot more about how P was co-opted by our own CIA and perhaps other Western Intelligence like Great Britain, Australia and Italy.


Notice a word used a lot in this document, POTENTIAL. Well potential is not a crime either.



Originally Posted by HedonistForever

you have to realize that your logical and well presented arguments aren't going to sway the TDS sufferers. even if Shifty Schiff himself admitted he never had any evidence of collusion (he didn't, he doesn't, he never will) the howlers on the left wouldn't believe it.

they'd scream for his head on a pike. hmm .. that's actually a good idea. maybe Evil Lord Trump the emperor will execute him.

BAHHAAAAA