Mother questions Hep B vacc for her newborn, has newborn taken away

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by Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist on March 28, 2012
I am having a great deal of trouble typing this post. I am so upset and outraged over what was done to Jodi Ferris and her baby at the Penn State Hershey Medical Center in Pennsylvania shortly after she gave birth that I am having difficulty staying composed enough to write a coherent story.


If you recall, this is the same area of the state where officials allowed a serial child molester like Jerry Sandusky, former Penn State assistant football coach, to go free for decades and continue to abuse children unfortunate enough to come across his lecherous path while a mother who gives birth in a government hospital has her baby taken away for questioning whether vaccination with Hep B is truly necessary.
Does something seem very very wrong with this picture?


Does something seem very very wrong with this picture?

Jodi and Scott Ferris’ Story

Jodi had hoped to have a homebirth. After going into labor early and given the distance to the nearest hospital, Jodi and her husband Scott were advised by their midwife to call an ambulance and get to the hospital.
Jodi and Scott’s baby girl was born in the ambulance in the parking lot of Hershey Medical Center. Attending personnel at the government run facility took charge of “Annie” and Jodi very quickly.
Jodi was unable to see and hold Annie after the birth and hospital personnel were totally unresponsive when she continued to inquire about her newborn. Jodi was also given an injection of oxytocin without first being told what it was. Hospital personnel only inquired whether she was allergic after the injection was given.
Jodi’s persistent inquires about Annie continued to go unheeded. She was simply told that “she is in good hands and you’ll be able to see her soon”.
Finally, a doctor told Jodi that Annie had scored a 9 out of 10 on the APGAR test given to newborns which was very good considering that an 8 or above indicates a healthy child.
A short time later, a different doctor told Jodi that Annie was very sick and would need to stay in the hospital. This doctor also arrogantly indicated his dislike for midwives with the comment “too many people think they know what they’re doing”.
About an hour after being told Annie was very sick, Annie was finally brought to Jodi. She was told Annie was doing well and would be able to go home shortly.

Baby Detained at Hospital For No Medical Reason
A few hours later, the story changed yet again as another hospital staffer told Jodi and Scott that Annie would have to remain in the hospital for 48-72 hours for observation.
When they inquired why, they were told that the “law” required Annie to stay for at least 48 hours.
There is no such law in Pennsylvania, by the way.
After consulting with risk management about why Annie had to stay at the hospital, it was admitted that even though Annie was fine and there was no reason she couldn’t go home, she was being held prisoner at the hospital for 48-72 hours not for any health reasons but out of concern that if anything went wrong after Annie was discharged that the hospital might get sued.
Hospital risk management ultimately relented and said a 24 hour waiting period was sufficient and that Jodi and Scott could stay with their baby overnight.

A Parent’s Worse Nightmare Begins
Later that day, a social worker came to Jodi and Scott’s room and announced that she was going to conduct an investigation of them.
The social worker also claimed that it was “against the law” to show Jodi the allegations before she was questioned.
When Jodi resisted and said that she was not comfortable answering questions when she didn’t even know what was going on, the social worker threatened to call police and take custody of her baby.
It soon became apparent that the problem was Jodi and Scott’s apparent refusal to consent to medical treatments for Annie. The social worker claimed that she had refused the Vitamin K shot for Annie. Jodi said that no one had even asked her about the shot and that Annie had already been given the shot based on a conversation she overhead from hospital personnel.
The social worker was unable to provide a single example of necessary medical treatment that Jodi and Scott had refused.
Scott had to leave shortly after that as their older children were staying with friends and he had to go attend to them.

Hep B Vaccine Questioned
After Scott left, hospital staff demanded that Annie be given the Hepatitis B vaccine. Jodi said that would be fine if she and Annie were tested to see if they actually had Hep B first.
The social worker pressed Jodi to consent to the shot immediately even though no testing for Hep B could be done that day. Jodi asked if she could wait until Scott got back before a decision was made.
Once again, the social worker threatened to call police and take custody of Annie if Jodi did not make an immediate decision about the Hep B vaccine. She also pressed for Jodi to sign a “safety plan” so she could conclude her investigation.
Jodi said that she wanted her husband and an attorney present before she signed such a document as she felt that she was in no physical state to read and sign it at that time.

Annie Taken Into Police Custody
When the social worker could not pressure Jodi to sign the document, she went and called police.
With no court order, police took custody of Annie claiming she was ill which was completely false.
With Annie now in her custody, the social worker approved the Hep B vaccine for Annie, completely overruling the desires and wishes of her parents to have their baby tested for Hep B first before the vaccine was administered.

Then, the hospital kicked Jodi out of the hospital where she was told she could return every 3 hours to nurse Annie.
Scott rushed back to meet Jodi at the hospital entrance as she was being escorted out and with nowhere to go, they spent the night in the parking lot of the hospital, sleeping in the car while their baby was in the hands of police and social services inside the hospital.

Annie Finally Returned to Parents
No doubt exhausted and emotionally distraught, Jodi and Scott attended a shelter care hearing with a judicial officer the following morning.
After hearing the evidence, the officer immediately returned custody of Annie to her parents.

Parent Rights Being Eroded
The moral of this story is that government and hospital workers will lie about the health of your child and quickly violate your Constitutional Rights in order to to force medical treatment upon your children without your consent.
Jodi and Scott Ferris have bravely decided to take their case to court in order to put an end to this madness so no other parents ever have to endure the ordeal they suffered at Hershey Medical Center after the birth of Annie.
If this case moves you as it has me, please consider donating to the Homeschool Freedom Fund which will assist the Homeschool Legal Defense Association with the funds necessary to support Jodi and Scott’s case in court.
No social worker should be able to play God with someone else’s baby and get off on her own power making up “rules” and “laws” as she goes for her own convenience and personal satisfaction.
There is no doubt that this social worker’s intentions were entirely personal; she was aiming to teach these homeschooling, homebirthing parents a lesson they would never forget.
It’s high time a court of law draws a line in the sand once and for all to establish that parents and not the government have the ultimate right to determine both medical and educational decisions for their children.
There is no such thing as “your government family” as Janet Napolitano, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security is so creepily fond of saying.

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Thought this article was interesting.. and wanted to see what others thought about this. In some ways the story doesn't seem quite right to me. By the way my kids received the Hep B vaccination which is a three part series of shots, but not at the hospital after they were born. The pediatrician if I remember correctly wanted to wait until they were a few months old before giving the shots. Since when did they make a law to give these series of shots to newborn infants? I know about the Vitamin K but am surprised that they give the Hep B vacc to newborns, especially since their are far more serious complications that can arise from a newborn receiving it. It just seems unfathomable that a hospital would do this because someone questioned the Hep B vacc. There has to be more to this story.. I hope.

You are kidding, right. You are really going to love Oblabocare. It goes down from here Babe...LOL

Social workers work for the government for our protection. It makes me so proud to know our government is there to protect us when we cannot make the right decision for ourselves and our children, especially when it comes to healthcare.

God, I hope you're being sarcastic, nwa.

This is government gone wild. Part of the very thing I oppose and get flamed for all the time on here. Even by you, SexyEx. I'd have thought you'd be on the side of the social worker.

God, I hope you're being sarcastic, nwa.

This is government gone wild. Part of the very thing I oppose and get flamed for all the time on here. Even by you, SexyEx. I'd have thought you'd be on the side of the social worker. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Good gawd mon, HELL YES i was being sarcastic. I don't need or want the government to wipe my ass for me.

The irony is as you suggested above with SexyEx, people who want the government to protect them from themselves and from personal responsibility, and to provide for all, are the first to start shedding tears after they realize exactly what they have lost in return. There are prices to pay, not only in taxes for these government "services".

C'mon Sexy E, this is the same government that you love and espouse all the time.
Just wait until Obamacare really kicks in, you're really gonna love it as they take more and more control of your life. You don't get to pick and choose which parts that's OK to control and and which to leave alone.

wow, you guys crack me up.

This article has nothing to do with the new health care law. How do you get that from this article?

The hospitals have made it mandatory for years now for certain vaccinations to be given to newborns (long before the new health care act). Hep B is one that use to be something you gave your child at a later date not when they are newborn infants. Because of the risks.

This article is about a hospital and some nurses and a social worker going way to far and lying to the parents and taking their baby away.

Man you guys need to stay focused on the article. I mean I get that your sore about the new health care and all, but is every thread posted going to endure your "I am unhappy about the new healthcare law so somehow this article must relate?".

Shakes head...

By the way I came up with a couple articles relating to the Hep B vaccine and newborns.

Why is GMO Hepatitis B Vaccine Given to Newborn Babies?

Safety of Controversial Hepatitis B Vaccine at Center of Debate

Refuse This Routine Procedure - Or Expose Your Baby's Brain to Severe Danger...

Why did the parents not contact an attorney when these things first started to occur?

Why did the parents not contact an attorney when these things first started to occur? Originally Posted by pyramider

Exactly.. but I think she and her husband are going to get an attorney. Did you read the article?

I know there are some vaccinations that are required by law, but Hep B I don't think is required by law. However it is required if you want your child to attend school or college. My pediatrician years ago said he wanted me to wait with my kids. So he contacted the hospital when I gave birth to both of my kids and we made arrangements to get them the vaccinations when they were around 3 months of age. But that was almost 23 years ago.

I just find it amazing that they lied to these parents and then had a social worker take their baby away in an effort to pressure them. To me that is way over the line.

wow, you guys crack me up.

This article has nothing to do with the new health care law. How do you get that from this article?

The hospitals have made it mandatory for years now for certain vaccinations to be given to newborns (long before the new health care act). Hep B is one that use to be something you gave your child at a later date not when they are newborn infants. Because of the risks.

This article is about a hospital and some nurses and a social worker going way to far and lying to the parents and taking their baby away.

Man you guys need to stay focused on the article. I mean I get that your sore about the new health care and all, but is every thread posted going to endure your "I am unhappy about the new healthcare law so somehow this article must relate?".

Shakes head... Originally Posted by Sexyeccentric1

I believe their point was that this incident took place at a state hospital and those involved were govt. workers. they will lie to you about your condition if they feel they can get away with it without any consequences.

their animosity seems directed at the parents who were homeschooling their children and used mid-wives in the birthing process.

Why did the parents not contact an attorney when these things first started to occur? Originally Posted by pyramider

put yourself in their shoes. is a lawyer the first thing on your mind when trouble at the hospital arises? They've never been in a situation like this, so its basically a WTF moment for them.

no, their mind was somewhere else with "worry" for thier baby.

Government hates people who don't blindly follow the "party line."

put yourself in their shoes. is a lawyer the first thing on your mind when trouble at the hospital arises? They've never been in a situation like this, so its basically a WTF moment for them.

no, their mind was somewhere else with "worry" for thier baby. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

When someone starts quoting odd sounding laws and threatens me as a bad parent, a quick call to an attorney is very reasonable.