off the "clock" or "on the clock"?

suppose I want to get together with a provider yet the first 1-2 hours would be dancing at a favorite venue and then go to either my place or hers for up to 2 more hours

for some of you providers, is that going to be considered 4 Hours "on the clock"? or just 2 hours?. if you'd rather not post publicly(for whatever reason)about this, just PM me/email me

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That my friend would be 2 hours she would not be able to actually earn money. So it would be considered on the clock unless of course you have a crappy yacht on a small Texas lake or a list.

Unless you specifically clarify ahead of time that X amount of time you're spending is off the clock, assume everything is on the clock...

Yes, it would be considered 4 hours on the clock.

Providers are paid most often for their time. If a provider is with you, regardless of what the two of you decide to do, it is still time spent with you.

If the provider doesn't have a rate for time in public, offer her either 1/2 or 1/3 of her rate for time spent in public. If she charges $300 for an hour, offer her $100 for each hour spent dancing. If she charges $200 per hour, offer her $70 or $80 for each hour spent dancing.

Hardnfast is exactly right, time with you is time the provider could be earning money elsewhere; but beyond that, it would be disrespectful to only pay a provider for 2 hours after having consumed 4 hours of her time. I have had a great time with clients, bowling dancing shopping dinner, and the clients I appreciate most are those who show their appreciation in the form of compensating me for my time, no matter what we are doing. One person I am likely to tell yes immediately if I know I am always going to be compensated fairly and accordingly, whereas others I am likely to decline if I always have to negotiate what is fair for this or that.

Yep, unless specifically arranged, on the clock but rate is usually less if you gave clothes on. I have done a lunch date for free before a full price multi hour session. Just make clear arrangements before meeting.

ClockBlockers

If she charges $300 for an hour,

....whereas others I am likely to decline if I always have to negotiate what is fair for this or that. Originally Posted by PleasantSurprise

If I charge $300 an hour will there be an offset for my time while I am entertaining?

Ok,is it different if you take a provider shopping and spend the same amount as a two hour session on her?

It is considered 4 hours. You are only paying for her time rather it be diner, dancing, movie, bcd........

When there is no rate listed for time spent in public, for those providers specifically I think offering 1/3 or up to 1/2 of their hourly rate for the time you would want to spend with them in public is reasonable.

As a provider with a social rate, a rate for time spent in public, I remove myself from the need to negotiate. If a client wanted to take me out dancing, he could add up the numbers on his own to determine what the evening would cost.

In my personal life, I always considered it tacky when a person would ask me out on a date, then ask to drive my vehicle or ask me to leave the tip or throw in a bill towards the tab. I think whoever is the person initiating the date, that is the person who should assume financial responsibility for the evening.

I can't speak for all providers, but in my experience many providers prefer the cash in hand. It just depends if you want to meet the preference of the provider. A provider may say yes it is OK if we go shopping and spend my two hour rate, but deep down most providers would prefer spending the two hours with you and having the cash to go home and pay their cell phone bill.

Just fuck her for 4 hours dude!! Dancing is for gay boys anyway!!

OP, I'd be concerned that a provider would read your first "sentence" above and and be afraid the "date" might never end.

Your on the clock dear....unless specified elsewhere.

wlll my "poll" is getting some fairly expected replies-though more from hobbyists than providers. and thanks to Pleasant Surprise for her suggestion of asking for a social rate that is discounted off a providers normal rate

I had met a provider in 2010(name withheld)in public for a first meeting. this provider(very UTR), in her case, was happy to go dancing, and when I asked if that would be "on the clock" she said NO. whether that was because she "liked" me or some other reason, I don't know. that meeting was obviously 3 years ago,yet I was curious so I've posted-to determine some kind of consensus from whatever providers(such as Pleasant Surpise) might offer their opinion

Dadio - well said.