While you were busy trying to be funny or sound like a drunken fool we have been losing our freedoms. Right now I know some of you are rolling your eyes but I remind you of other countries where the people lost their freedom before their very eyes and did nothing until it was too late.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...With-Rules.htm
Starting in 1936 the Jews in Germany were subject to new laws that proscribed where they could shop, eat, and live. Many said that it would not get worse because the Nazis would be gone tomorrow. When Jewish shop keepers were attacked and their stores vandalized without the protection of the law they said it could not get worse. When people were forced to move into ghettos having to abandon their possessions to the vultures to the elite, they said it couldn't get worse.
http://www.atr.org/fairness-doctrine...-online-a4958#
You know how that ended.
In another country the government made the people afraid of another people in a distant land. The people responded to the fear with anger and paranoia. The government created an agency to feed the people the "right" news. This agency even found citizens willing to spy on other citizens for free. These spies got to carry a badge and scare other citizens with exposure for "crimes". This same government put together a massive propaganda program to affect public opinion. The populace responded by acts of vandalism and murder. This country was the United States in 1917-1920. Look ups: Creel Committee (Committee of Public Information), George Creel, the 4-minute men, Robert Praeger, and Bernays/propaganda.
The above links go to stories where the federal government (without actions of Congress) is now in a position to filter the Internet (yes, that includes sites like this), TV, and radio. In England they are moving towards a complete ban on pornography (their definition of pornography) from the Internet. http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1225973481287
So now I will let you go back to whatever dick pleasing thing you were doing and I know some of you will either make snarky remarks or worse, cast unfair dispersions on my character (because you have no logical response). That means I win but in this case we all lose.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...121902461.html
Chavez defends plans to regulate Internet.
To paraphrase Larry the cable guy, what is this? Venezuela? or maybe Hungary http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6BK1A220101221
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101220/...es_reporting_2
- john_galt
- 12-21-2010, 04:17 PM
- lacrew_2000
- 12-21-2010, 04:28 PM
John_Galt, this is coming dangerously close to opening a new thread on the same subject of the one I just closed.
It will stay open....for now.
To others - I think we have established that several people disagree with John_Galt on many things...but this is a discussion board. So please discuss away, without any name calling.
It will stay open....for now.
To others - I think we have established that several people disagree with John_Galt on many things...but this is a discussion board. So please discuss away, without any name calling.
- Omahan
- 12-21-2010, 04:31 PM
Jeez JG! This is a pussy shopping forum. Just because we don't listen to your political stuff here doesn't mean we are never concerned. I come here for pussy. I have other (more informative and accurate) forums for politics.
- dirty dog
- 12-21-2010, 05:48 PM
"In England they are moving towards a complete ban on pornography (their definition of pornography) from the Internet. http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1225973481287"
What a crock of shit, of course totally false, but then JG is pretty loose with the facts. The British are not "banning" pornogrpahy only ensuring that those who are of the proper age are able to watch it. Of course the truth does not fit into your fear mongering truth does it. Now I guess the real question is do you want children watchign porn, Galt?
As for Chavez last I checked he was not part of this government or this country so who gives a fuck what he does. The truth be told the internet does need some regulation to prevent the theft of intelectual property or as many of you would know it copyright theft, it also needs to be regulated to keep children away from porn. A totally free and open internet is crap, the radio waves we listen two and the tv signal we watch are neither totally open and totally free and neither should it be, there is a huge difference between the freedoms that allow us to be able to speak and disagree about the government and allowing unfiltered access to subject matter that children have no business seeing.
The ATF nor anyone else is saying that you cant purchase more than two rifles, its only statign that the sales must be reported, this is nothing new, so where was your uproar in 2002 when the ATF required gun dealers through out the united states to report the sale of 3 or more handguns within a 1 month period. The result from the requests, Agents will question you to see if you still have the weapons and if not if they were properly sold and two whom, this is done to stop straw purchasing, a common method illegal gun dealers use where 1 person purchases the guns and then a second person resales the weapons without the proper paperwork or background check. Of course that was back under Bush so it was okay then. I know I know, you were part of some special ed group that protested this but was ignored by the main stream media because of the right wing leanings.
What a crock of shit, of course totally false, but then JG is pretty loose with the facts. The British are not "banning" pornogrpahy only ensuring that those who are of the proper age are able to watch it. Of course the truth does not fit into your fear mongering truth does it. Now I guess the real question is do you want children watchign porn, Galt?
As for Chavez last I checked he was not part of this government or this country so who gives a fuck what he does. The truth be told the internet does need some regulation to prevent the theft of intelectual property or as many of you would know it copyright theft, it also needs to be regulated to keep children away from porn. A totally free and open internet is crap, the radio waves we listen two and the tv signal we watch are neither totally open and totally free and neither should it be, there is a huge difference between the freedoms that allow us to be able to speak and disagree about the government and allowing unfiltered access to subject matter that children have no business seeing.
The ATF nor anyone else is saying that you cant purchase more than two rifles, its only statign that the sales must be reported, this is nothing new, so where was your uproar in 2002 when the ATF required gun dealers through out the united states to report the sale of 3 or more handguns within a 1 month period. The result from the requests, Agents will question you to see if you still have the weapons and if not if they were properly sold and two whom, this is done to stop straw purchasing, a common method illegal gun dealers use where 1 person purchases the guns and then a second person resales the weapons without the proper paperwork or background check. Of course that was back under Bush so it was okay then. I know I know, you were part of some special ed group that protested this but was ignored by the main stream media because of the right wing leanings.
- Cheaper2buyit
- 12-21-2010, 06:21 PM
Ok I can't believe you want me to get real info from a site such as this(http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnal...With-Rules.htm
Are you kidding me News and anal do really think I am going to open that link this is were you get your info I am not calling you gay however I'd like to discuss whether your views come from some hidden gay personal feelings & therefore you say & discuss things in a way to hide those feelings.
There rules to every thing that is sold in this world.
Are you kidding me News and anal do really think I am going to open that link this is were you get your info I am not calling you gay however I'd like to discuss whether your views come from some hidden gay personal feelings & therefore you say & discuss things in a way to hide those feelings.
There rules to every thing that is sold in this world.
- john_galt
- 12-21-2010, 06:45 PM
To the moderators; yes, this site is about the jade gate and how to get it but it is also about our freedoms. That includes the freedom to look for personal pleasure. The curtailment of our freedoms always starts in such a way that people will support the initial laws but once the laws are in place they are interpreted in other ways.
Case in point; The English law is all about preventing children from getting to pornography. The problem is the definition of porn. Haven't you ever gone to a site that had nothing to do with porn but it was classified as porn? I was banned from a library a few years ago for looking up a site called "Votes for Orgasms". It was a political site put up by a Harvard students group about the 2000 election. Nothing to do with porn but the librarian refused to believe otherwise including looking at the site. Once such a well intentioned law is in place then others can take it to do things that it was not intended to do. Don't you remember how Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck have been called pornography? So that is one avenue to ban free speech.
Chavez is a good example of how a dictator legally puts him (or herself) in power just as Hitler did but using that name always causes problems.
DD, I don't know why you keep bringing up the old days and then accuse me of not carrying back then because of some political agenda. I think I have made it quite clear (at least to a conscious person) that I DID protest back then, write letters, make phone calls, and let myself be heard. My position is not political despite what you think. I watch everyone in power GOP, Democrat, or Independent. That dog won't hunt so stop sending him into the field.
As for the law, it does make sense for now. Once the precedent has been set then they expand the law.
The Espionage Act was all about spying wasn't it? How was it used to nationalize all the railroads in the country, the telegraph companies, and the telephone companies? Because the Postmaster General (yes, the head postal worker) said that you can't monitor speech unless you control it. Burleson also invented Ma Bell.
I can't help but think of a man interviewed on FOX news the other day. He is Jewish and while he was closing the door on the railroad car that contained his father going to Auschwitz his father said that this (the holocaust) would all soon blow over and he would see his son soon.
Being forewarned is forearmed.
When they came for the gun owners I said nothing because I didn't own any guns. When they came for the bloggers I said nothing because I don't blog.
When they came for the conservatives I said nothing because I was not a conservative.
When they came for the pussy mongers...wait! That's me.
Case in point; The English law is all about preventing children from getting to pornography. The problem is the definition of porn. Haven't you ever gone to a site that had nothing to do with porn but it was classified as porn? I was banned from a library a few years ago for looking up a site called "Votes for Orgasms". It was a political site put up by a Harvard students group about the 2000 election. Nothing to do with porn but the librarian refused to believe otherwise including looking at the site. Once such a well intentioned law is in place then others can take it to do things that it was not intended to do. Don't you remember how Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck have been called pornography? So that is one avenue to ban free speech.
Chavez is a good example of how a dictator legally puts him (or herself) in power just as Hitler did but using that name always causes problems.
DD, I don't know why you keep bringing up the old days and then accuse me of not carrying back then because of some political agenda. I think I have made it quite clear (at least to a conscious person) that I DID protest back then, write letters, make phone calls, and let myself be heard. My position is not political despite what you think. I watch everyone in power GOP, Democrat, or Independent. That dog won't hunt so stop sending him into the field.
As for the law, it does make sense for now. Once the precedent has been set then they expand the law.
The Espionage Act was all about spying wasn't it? How was it used to nationalize all the railroads in the country, the telegraph companies, and the telephone companies? Because the Postmaster General (yes, the head postal worker) said that you can't monitor speech unless you control it. Burleson also invented Ma Bell.
I can't help but think of a man interviewed on FOX news the other day. He is Jewish and while he was closing the door on the railroad car that contained his father going to Auschwitz his father said that this (the holocaust) would all soon blow over and he would see his son soon.
Being forewarned is forearmed.
When they came for the gun owners I said nothing because I didn't own any guns. When they came for the bloggers I said nothing because I don't blog.
When they came for the conservatives I said nothing because I was not a conservative.
When they came for the pussy mongers...wait! That's me.
- kcmark
- 12-21-2010, 08:14 PM
Well obviously noone from the any administration is monitoring this site or they would come lock up the lunatic!!!
- dirty dog
- 12-21-2010, 10:44 PM
"DD, I don't know why you keep bringing up the old days and then accuse me of not carrying back then because of some political agenda. I think I have made it quite clear (at least to a conscious person) that I DID protest back then, write letters, make phone calls, and let myself be heard. My position is not political despite what you think. I watch everyone in power GOP, Democrat, or Independent. That dog won't hunt so stop sending him into the field.
As for the law, it does make sense for now. Once the precedent has been set then they expand the law."
Prove it, I can say I had anal sex with Hali Berry but it does not make it so (which is a subject which deeply saddens me). Just because you say you demonstrated against it and for me or anyone with an IQ over 5 to believe that you did would require credibility, which sir you are lacking based on the general concensous.
Almost every law written can be expanded and used in a way for which it was not intended, show me your letters of protest and outcry and the examples of angst that you must surely have had when the DOJ under Bush used the patriot act to arrest some NJ mafia members, you do remember that the patriot act was only to be used for matters of terrorist threat to America. While the Decavalent family (which by the way the Soprano's is based on) may be a threat to society but not in a terroristic way, or how about how the patriot act was used to arrest some drug dealers. If you can provide your objection to this or any other abuse during the Bush administration than I will admit its not political, but you can and that proves that your opposition is based only on political party making it the worse kind of political there is. This fear that you have of a dictatorship take over of America is maybe something you might seek some counceling for. There are many differences between the governments of Germany, the land of Chavez and those others lands of dictatorship which enable them to have been taken over, and which is why this country cannot. They had one national army, we have 50 state armys, with all the neet and fancy toys, They had an unarmed society we have over a million guns on the streets and in the homes of the average citizen. It may be possible but its possible I could eat some carbon, squeeze my ass together and shit a diamond, its possible but very unlikely.
As for the law, it does make sense for now. Once the precedent has been set then they expand the law."
Prove it, I can say I had anal sex with Hali Berry but it does not make it so (which is a subject which deeply saddens me). Just because you say you demonstrated against it and for me or anyone with an IQ over 5 to believe that you did would require credibility, which sir you are lacking based on the general concensous.
Almost every law written can be expanded and used in a way for which it was not intended, show me your letters of protest and outcry and the examples of angst that you must surely have had when the DOJ under Bush used the patriot act to arrest some NJ mafia members, you do remember that the patriot act was only to be used for matters of terrorist threat to America. While the Decavalent family (which by the way the Soprano's is based on) may be a threat to society but not in a terroristic way, or how about how the patriot act was used to arrest some drug dealers. If you can provide your objection to this or any other abuse during the Bush administration than I will admit its not political, but you can and that proves that your opposition is based only on political party making it the worse kind of political there is. This fear that you have of a dictatorship take over of America is maybe something you might seek some counceling for. There are many differences between the governments of Germany, the land of Chavez and those others lands of dictatorship which enable them to have been taken over, and which is why this country cannot. They had one national army, we have 50 state armys, with all the neet and fancy toys, They had an unarmed society we have over a million guns on the streets and in the homes of the average citizen. It may be possible but its possible I could eat some carbon, squeeze my ass together and shit a diamond, its possible but very unlikely.
- Cheaper2buyit
- 12-21-2010, 11:00 PM
plus the fact the our prez is in power such a short time & we have the house & senate as we all know they can stop the prez. Also I have not seen the prez use the executive order like he could which dictators do which makes them a dictators.
At last all you can do is eat good get as much pussy with a fair amount of head & when ever you don't like the prez pray you live 4 or 8 more years. but to bitch about every little thing only gives you high blood pressure which leads to ed or limp dick
At last all you can do is eat good get as much pussy with a fair amount of head & when ever you don't like the prez pray you live 4 or 8 more years. but to bitch about every little thing only gives you high blood pressure which leads to ed or limp dick
- BigMikeinKC
- 12-22-2010, 06:12 AM
John_Galt, this is coming dangerously close to opening a new thread on the same subject of the one I just closed.Lacrew-
It will stay open....for now.
To others - I think we have established that several people disagree with John_Galt on many things...but this is a discussion board. So please discuss away, without any name calling. Originally Posted by lacrew_2000
You might as well close the threads as soon as they start. I mean, how can you disagree with fantasy? Seriously, no logical statement you make can be heard.
- Cheaper2buyit
- 12-22-2010, 12:10 PM
Jeez JG! This is a pussy shopping forum. Just because we don't listen to your political stuff here doesn't mean we are never concerned. I come here for pussy. I have other (more informative and accurate) forums for politics. FROM THE WISE ONE Omahan
- john_galt
- 12-22-2010, 04:21 PM
DD if I gave you my name you could look up the numerous letters printed by the KC Star but we both know that is not going to happen. What reason do I have to lie?
For your viewing pleasure http://www.theblaze.com/stories/barn...iscrimination/
I suppose I could make some people happy by writing in non sequitors and come off sounding like I had a stroke.
For your viewing pleasure http://www.theblaze.com/stories/barn...iscrimination/
I suppose I could make some people happy by writing in non sequitors and come off sounding like I had a stroke.
- dirty dog
- 12-22-2010, 04:47 PM
"What reason do I have to lie?"
Gee I dont know, to validate your far right wing zealot, homophobic, white power delusional there going to take us over theory you have been projecting.
Gee I dont know, to validate your far right wing zealot, homophobic, white power delusional there going to take us over theory you have been projecting.
- catnipdipper
- 12-22-2010, 05:58 PM
Now Now DD.......I am sure that you are aware that frontal lobatamys are not reverseable. He is what he is and just needs a pillow from Chief.
Peace
Peace
- Cheaper2buyit
- 12-22-2010, 09:45 PM
first you want us to look up news & anal now you want us to look up the blaze sound funny to me