Rudy and Fruity posed on cliffs edge in Georgia.

After all the action on the Federal level this week, let’s not lose sight of that pesky little attempt to overturn the 2020 election in Georgia.

“Just find me…”

A perfect call that’s going to lead right back to Twitler. But first they’ll fry Giuliani and maybe Graham.

Rudy’s a joke and a perfect supporting cast member in Twitler’s evil clown circus. Graham on the other hand couldn’t quite decide which way he’d lean and kept swinging from one side to the other throughout the Trump occupation.

Hopefully, Georgia justice will have him swinging another way.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/15/11175...tigation-trump


Giuliani is the target of a Georgia election probe, his lawyers are told

The Associated Press August 15, 20223:24 PM ET

ATLANTA — Prosecutors in Atlanta on Monday told lawyers for Rudy Giuliani that he's a target of their criminal investigation into possible illegal attempts by then-President Donald Trump and others to interfere in the 2020 general election in Georgia, one of Giuliani's lawyers said Monday.

Special prosecutor Nathan Wade alerted Giuliani's local attorney in Atlanta that the former New York City mayor could face criminal charges, another Giuliani attorney, Bob Costello said. News of the disclosure was first reported by The New York Times.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis opened the investigation last year, and a special grand jury was seated in May at her request. County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney, who's overseeing the special grand jury, has instructed Giuliani to appear before the panel to testify on Wednesday.

Willis' investigation was spurred by a phone call between Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. During that January 2021 conversation, Trump suggested that Raffensperger could "find" the votes needed to overturn his narrow loss in the state.

It has also become clear that the district attorney is interested in Georgia legislative committee hearings that were held in December 2020 where Giuliani appeared and spread false claims of election fraud in Atlanta's Fulton County.
Willis last month filed petitions seeking to compel testimony from seven Trump associates and advisers. Because they don't live in Georgia, she had to use a process that involves asking a judge in the states where they live to order them to appear.

In a petition seeking Giuliani's testimony, Willis identified him as both a personal attorney for Trump and a lead attorney for his campaign. She wrote that he and others appeared at a state Senate committee meeting and presented a video that Giuliani said showed election workers producing "suitcases" of unlawful ballots from unknown sources, outside the view of election poll watchers.

Within 24 hours of that Dec. 3, 2020, hearing, Raffensperger's office had debunked the video. But Giuliani continued to make statements to the public and in subsequent legislative hearings claiming widespread voter fraud using the debunked video, Willis wrote.

Evidence shows that Giuliani's hearing appearance and testimony "was part of a multi-state, coordinated plan by the Trump Campaign to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere," the petition says.

Lindsey Graham was ordered to testify in Atlanta

Also Monday, a federal judge said U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham must testify before a special grand jury in Atlanta that is investigating whether then-President Donald Trump and his allies broke any laws while trying to overturn his narrow 2020 general election loss in the state.

Attorneys for Graham, R-S.C., had argued that his position as a U.S. senator provided him immunity from having to appear before the investigative panel and asked the judge to quash his subpoena. But U.S. District Judge Leigh Martin May wrote in an order Monday that immunities related to his role as a senator do not protect him from having to testify. Graham's subpoena instructs him to appear before the special grand jury on Aug. 23, but his office said Monday he plans to appeal to the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Prosecutors have indicated they want to ask Graham about phone calls they say he made to Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger and his staff in the weeks following Trump's election loss to Democrat Joe Biden.

Graham had argued that a provision of the Constitution provides absolute protection against a senator being questioned about legislative acts. But the judge found there are "considerable areas of potential grand jury inquiry" that fall outside that provision's scope. The judge also rejected Graham's argument that the principle of "sovereign immunity" protects a senator from being summoned by a state prosecutor.

Graham also argued that Willis, a Democrat, had not demonstrated extraordinary circumstances necessary to compel testimony from a high-ranking official. But the judge disagreed, finding that Willis had shown "extraordinary circumstances and a special need" for Graham's testimony on issues related to an alleged attempt to influence or disrupt the election in Georgia.

May, the judge, last month rejected a similar attempt by U.S. Rep. Jody Hice, R-Ga., to avoid testifying before the special grand jury. Former New York mayor and Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani had argued he couldn't travel to Atlanta to testify because of health issues, but Fulton County Judge McBurney instructed him to appear on Wednesday.

Graham's office said in a statement Monday that the senator disagrees with the judge's interpretation of the provision of the Constitution he believes protects him from being questioned by a state official. His lawyers have said that he was making inquiries that were clearly part of his legislative duties, related to certification of the vote and to the proposal of election-related legislation.

But the judge wrote that that ignores "the fact that individuals on the calls have publicly suggested that Senator Graham was not simply engaged in legislative factfinding but was instead suggesting or implying that Georgia election officials change their processes or otherwise potentially alter the state's results."
In calls made shortly after the 2020 general election, Graham "questioned Raffensperger and his staff about reexamining certain absentee ballots cast in Georgia in order to explore the possibility of a more favorable outcome for former President Donald Trump," Willis wrote in a petition.

Graham also "made reference to allegations of widespread voter fraud in the November 2020 election in Georgia, consistent with public statements made by known affiliates of the Trump Campaign," she wrote.

Republican and Democratic state election officials across the country, courts and even Trump's attorney general found there was no evidence of any voter fraud sufficient to affect the outcome of his 2020 presidential election loss.
Trump-allied lawmakers were planning to challenge the tallies from several battleground states when Congress convened on Jan. 6, 2021, to certify the results under the Electoral Count Act, but after the Capitol attack that day Georgia's tally was never contested.

Trump has denied any wrongdoing and has described his call to Raffensperger as "perfect."

Stacy Abrahams has spent the last 10 years claiming election fraud

Other notable quotes about the 2000 election

Joe Biden 2013 Al Gore was elected president of the United Sates
Hilary Clinton 2016 The Supreme Court took away a presidency
Bill Clinton 2001 The only way they could win was to stop the vote counting in Florida
Jimmy Carter 2005 There's no doubt in my mind that Al Gore was elected president
Jamie Raskin 2003 George Bush was the first court appointed president

Stacy Abrahams has spent the last 10 years claiming election fraud Originally Posted by LayingPipe

With frequent Klondike breaks

the whole thing...

prosecuting old people related to jan 6,

going after parents at school board meetings,

putting trump officials in leg irons for misdemeanors for which leftists, people like eric holder and others, never got leg irons,

georgia prosecutions, new york prosecutions, mar a lago raids

all but a death match for power

on the one side are state legislatures trying to regain their rightful constitutional place regarding elections in their states

and on that same side there is trump, and people who had worked for him and to a lesser extent the gop and gop elected house and senate

on the other side is biden, the deep state and all that entails including the police power of the federal government, the news media, social media companies, local left district attorneys and leftist atty generals of the various states - all with their marching orders

do you recall biden attacking states for jim crow II?

this is the planned concerted leftist dimocrat biden doj fbi response to states making elections more secure

if they can do it to white house attorneys, white house officials, and even to trump. they can certainly do it to you

they want to intimidate people - make you afraid to state your opinion

only juries that stand up and voters that stand up will rescue this place

Stacy Abrahams has spent the last 10 years claiming election fraud

Other notable quotes about the 2000 election

Joe Biden 2013 Al Gore was elected president of the United Sates
Hilary Clinton 2016 The Supreme Court took away a presidency
Bill Clinton 2001 The only way they could win was to stop the vote counting in Florida
Jimmy Carter 2005 There's no doubt in my mind that Al Gore was elected president
Jamie Raskin 2003 George Bush was the first court appointed president Originally Posted by LayingPipe

What in the OP refers to Abrams? Or any of those other folks?

If there’s a point you’re making relative to Giuliani and Graham please do so.

Otherwise, you’re simply trying to change the discussion.

Good luck with that.

the whole thing...

prosecuting old people related to jan 6,

going after parents at school board meetings,

putting trump officials in leg irons for misdemeanors for which leftists, people like eric holder and others, never got leg irons,

georgia prosecutions, new york prosecutions, mar a lago raids

all but a death match for power

on the one side are state legislatures trying to regain their rightful constitutional place regarding elections in their states

and on that same side there is trump, and people who had worked for him and to a lesser extent the gop and gop elected house and senate

on the other side is biden, the deep state and all that entails including the police power of the federal government, the news media, social media companies, local left district attorneys and leftist atty generals of the various states - all with their marching orders

do you recall biden attacking states for jim crow II?

this is the planned concerted leftist dimocrat biden doj fbi response to states making elections more secure

if they can do it to white house attorneys, white house official, and even to trump. they can certianly do it to you

they want to intimidate people - make you afraid to state your opinion Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

Got a thing for leg irons?

Seems as though youve bought into the Trump pity pot. And right into the “it can happen to you” intimidation.

If you truly believe that, then I respect your opinion. But you also should be able to tell how badly you’re being manipulated by the Trump bullshit machine.

Trump is a victim of his own making. And nowhere has it been more apparent than since he ran to the media whining that his beautiful home was under siege.

just use your noodle and not your viscera

What in the OP refers to Abrams Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Right from the Democrat playbook Accuse others of what your guilty of

Nobody has been investigated for election fraud in Georgia more than Stacy Abrahms

Her "voting rights" groups America Votes, Vote Forward, and The New Georgia Project mailed registration postcards to dead people, college students out of state and encouraged people to drive into Georgia to vote.



https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...-registration/

OK. What in the OP has to do with Abrams?

Nothing.

You ready to go to war over Rudy Giuliani and Lindsey Graham? Trump will gladly luang them out to dry.

For his “perfect phone call.”

You’re just playing a weak “what about” game.

Sad.

To keep their comments/posts on topic . . .

#6 - Respect the topics presented by those who start a thread. Attempts to derail a thread or change it's direction is referred to as thread hijack and will be discouraged. Attempts to guide a thread in the right direction are appreciated, while responses to posts which hijack a thread are not.

.... Hmmm... And what was the result here?

... "Rudy" must refer to Giuliani... But WHO is "Fruity"??

#### Salty

Graham.

Thanks for the bump, Salty. The MAGA threat is being exposed daily. The polls reflect a steady turn away from that lunacy.

Graham.

Thanks for the bump, Salty. The MAGA threat is being exposed daily. The polls reflect a steady turn away from that lunacy. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

... Graham? ... Hmmmm...

So is "Fruity" supposed to be a gay homo-sexual insult
to Lindsay Graham?

#### Salty

I don't care what idiots have to say but I think the word is "poised".

I don't care what idiots have to say but I think the word is "poised". Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

I’ll bet you do.