More votes counted than cast in Nevada 2020
But this was a totally fraud free election.
- texassapper
- 08-06-2021, 09:47 AM
- royamcr
- 08-06-2021, 10:17 AM
The margin was 33000, so even if this is true it wouldn't matter. How many of that 9000 were for biden? half? all? or were they all for Trump? A lot on the left think Trump cheated this election, that is why he is so pissed, cause if he (I) cheated, the other guy had to have also. He was told by his pollsters how many votes he needed to win, this was obviously not nearly enough.
"Citizens will be able to check their voting status, voting history, and those of their neighbors, friends, and others. They will be able to "crowd-source" any errors.", ya that doesn't violate people's privacy.
"Citizens will be able to check their voting status, voting history, and those of their neighbors, friends, and others. They will be able to "crowd-source" any errors.", ya that doesn't violate people's privacy.
- oeb11
- 08-06-2021, 10:20 AM
ta - the blinded by indoctrination sheeples don't care about facts and Truth - only their indoctrinated Xinn narrative.
we can all ignore their pre-imprinted responses.
groupthink and doublespeak.
Sheeples.
we can all ignore their pre-imprinted responses.
groupthink and doublespeak.
Sheeples.
- texassapper
- 08-06-2021, 10:20 AM
Ah, so now the fraud doesn't matter because it wasn't greater than the margin... got it.
Goalpost moved.
But what if this is just one aspect of the fraud? Because clearly this would be the first election where EVERY SINGLE FCUKING REGISTERED VOTER CAST A BALLOT in history...
Asshat.
Goalpost moved.
But what if this is just one aspect of the fraud? Because clearly this would be the first election where EVERY SINGLE FCUKING REGISTERED VOTER CAST A BALLOT in history...
Asshat.
- royamcr
- 08-06-2021, 10:28 AM
Fact-check: Did 9,000 people vote illegally in Nevada?
President Donald Trump is greeted by Matt Schlapp, Chairman of the American Conservative Union, as the president arrives to speak at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Feb. 29, 2020 at National Harbor, in Oxon Hill, Md.
Matt Schlapp: As an example of voter fraud, “we have literally 9,000 people who voted in this election (in Nevada) who don’t live in Nevada.”
PolitiFact’s ruling: Pants on Fire
Here’s why: As supporters of President Donald Trump ramp up their efforts to delegitimize the election with unsubstantiated allegations of widespread voter fraud, one high-profile Republican ally claimed that 9,000 Nevada ballots were fraudulently cast by nonresidents.
"We have literally 9,000 people who voted in this election who don’t live in Nevada," American Conservative Union chair Matt Schlapp told Fox News on Nov. 8, wrongly claiming the election has seen widespread "fraud" and "illegality" but offering no proof to support his allegations.
Schlapp also cited the 9,000 figure during a press conference the same day, telling a crowd of Trump supporters that many "non-Nevadans" had been caught illegally voting in the state.
Schlapp’s allegation earned a shoutout from Trump, who tweeted that Nevada was "a cesspool of fake votes." Schlapp has continued repeating the claim since.
But there is no proof that 9,000 people cast illegal ballots in Nevada after moving out of state, and there remains no evidence of any widespread voter fraud in Nevada or elsewhere.
Schlapp’s claim is derived from a Trump campaign list
Schlapp’s 9,000 number derives in part from another unproven claim from the Trump campaign and Republicans in Nevada, who argued days earlier that there were 3,062 instances of voter fraud stemming from cases in which people moved out of Nevada but still voted in the state.
Trump campaign attorneys sent U.S. Attorney General William Barr a list of 3,062 unnamed individuals who they claimed voted in Nevada after moving out of state. A recent lawsuit also referenced "over 3,000 instances of ineligible individuals casting ballots."
The campaign’s list showed ZIP codes for voters’ current and previous addresses, but it left out other personally identifying information. The lawyers said they formed it by cross-referencing the list of general election voters in Nevada with publicly available change-of-address records.
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But the list alone did not prove that anyone had violated the law, as we reported.
That’s because people who move within 30 days before an election can legally cast a ballot in their new state — or in their prior state of residence — in-person or via absentee ballot. Nevadans who leave the state to attend college or other reasons can also request a ballot.
The list from Trump’s lawyers also included addresses for Americans serving overseas in the military and their spouses, including some people who have since spoken out.
The ACLU of Nevada said the list showed changes of address for people who moved to military bases, including at least 129 Army or Air Post Office addresses, 13 Fleet Post Offices and 15 Diplomatic Post Offices, according to the Wall Street Journal. There are other addresses on the list, the Journal reported, that the ACLU said are located in cities near military hubs.
"This list they’re talking about has been debunked as having, for example, having military personnel on there who are serving overseas and have the right to vote," Nevada Attorney General Aaron Ford, a Democrat, said on Fox News Nov. 7. "It could include Mormon missionaries on that list. It could also include college students on that list."
Any registered voter in Nevada could request to vote by mail in 2020, according to the website for the Nevada secretary of state.
Clark County, which includes Las Vegas and nearly 75% of Nevada’s population, has so far referred just three cases of potential fraud to the Nevada secretary of state’s office, said county spokesperson Dan Kulin. None of the three cases involved an ineligible voter from out of state.
Schlapp does not have hard evidence to support his claim
How did Schlapp get from the campaign’s list of 3,062 out-of-state voters to 9,000?
His number relies on back-of-the-envelope math and some major assumptions, including the assumption that everyone who mailed in a ballot was ineligible to do so. There are no signs of a new, bigger list that includes 9,000 changes of address or voter names.
An American Conservative Union spokesperson said Schlapp had projected that the number of people who illegally voted from outside Nevada was actually three times as large as the 3,062 people originally alleged. The spokesperson said that’s because only one-third of people report changes of address to the national database maintained by the U.S. Postal Service.
"The 3,000 that we came up with, we believe that that is two-thirds shy of the actual number because most people don’t go to the post office to change their address," Schlapp said in a Nov. 9 interview with former White House press secretary Sean Spicer.
But Martha Johnson, a spokesperson for the Postal Service, said the service was "unable to confirm" that only one-third of people report when they change their address. "The USPS processed approximately 36 million change of addresses" in 2020, Johnson said.
Schlapp has not backed his claims up with any hard evidence. Even if 9,000 absentee voters did mail in ballots to Nevada from out of state, there’s no proof any of them did so illegally, as he claimed.
A spokesperson for Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske, a Republican, declined to comment on Schlapp’s specific claims but pointed to a statement. It said Nevada is investigating all credible allegations of fraud but noted that "many voter fraud complaints lack any evidence."
President Donald Trump is greeted by Matt Schlapp, Chairman of the American Conservative Union, as the president arrives to speak at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Feb. 29, 2020 at National Harbor, in Oxon Hill, Md.
Matt Schlapp: As an example of voter fraud, “we have literally 9,000 people who voted in this election (in Nevada) who don’t live in Nevada.”
PolitiFact’s ruling: Pants on Fire
Here’s why: As supporters of President Donald Trump ramp up their efforts to delegitimize the election with unsubstantiated allegations of widespread voter fraud, one high-profile Republican ally claimed that 9,000 Nevada ballots were fraudulently cast by nonresidents.
"We have literally 9,000 people who voted in this election who don’t live in Nevada," American Conservative Union chair Matt Schlapp told Fox News on Nov. 8, wrongly claiming the election has seen widespread "fraud" and "illegality" but offering no proof to support his allegations.
Schlapp also cited the 9,000 figure during a press conference the same day, telling a crowd of Trump supporters that many "non-Nevadans" had been caught illegally voting in the state.
Schlapp’s allegation earned a shoutout from Trump, who tweeted that Nevada was "a cesspool of fake votes." Schlapp has continued repeating the claim since.
But there is no proof that 9,000 people cast illegal ballots in Nevada after moving out of state, and there remains no evidence of any widespread voter fraud in Nevada or elsewhere.
Schlapp’s claim is derived from a Trump campaign list
Schlapp’s 9,000 number derives in part from another unproven claim from the Trump campaign and Republicans in Nevada, who argued days earlier that there were 3,062 instances of voter fraud stemming from cases in which people moved out of Nevada but still voted in the state.
Trump campaign attorneys sent U.S. Attorney General William Barr a list of 3,062 unnamed individuals who they claimed voted in Nevada after moving out of state. A recent lawsuit also referenced "over 3,000 instances of ineligible individuals casting ballots."
The campaign’s list showed ZIP codes for voters’ current and previous addresses, but it left out other personally identifying information. The lawyers said they formed it by cross-referencing the list of general election voters in Nevada with publicly available change-of-address records.
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But the list alone did not prove that anyone had violated the law, as we reported.
That’s because people who move within 30 days before an election can legally cast a ballot in their new state — or in their prior state of residence — in-person or via absentee ballot. Nevadans who leave the state to attend college or other reasons can also request a ballot.
The list from Trump’s lawyers also included addresses for Americans serving overseas in the military and their spouses, including some people who have since spoken out.
The ACLU of Nevada said the list showed changes of address for people who moved to military bases, including at least 129 Army or Air Post Office addresses, 13 Fleet Post Offices and 15 Diplomatic Post Offices, according to the Wall Street Journal. There are other addresses on the list, the Journal reported, that the ACLU said are located in cities near military hubs.
"This list they’re talking about has been debunked as having, for example, having military personnel on there who are serving overseas and have the right to vote," Nevada Attorney General Aaron Ford, a Democrat, said on Fox News Nov. 7. "It could include Mormon missionaries on that list. It could also include college students on that list."
Any registered voter in Nevada could request to vote by mail in 2020, according to the website for the Nevada secretary of state.
Clark County, which includes Las Vegas and nearly 75% of Nevada’s population, has so far referred just three cases of potential fraud to the Nevada secretary of state’s office, said county spokesperson Dan Kulin. None of the three cases involved an ineligible voter from out of state.
Schlapp does not have hard evidence to support his claim
How did Schlapp get from the campaign’s list of 3,062 out-of-state voters to 9,000?
His number relies on back-of-the-envelope math and some major assumptions, including the assumption that everyone who mailed in a ballot was ineligible to do so. There are no signs of a new, bigger list that includes 9,000 changes of address or voter names.
An American Conservative Union spokesperson said Schlapp had projected that the number of people who illegally voted from outside Nevada was actually three times as large as the 3,062 people originally alleged. The spokesperson said that’s because only one-third of people report changes of address to the national database maintained by the U.S. Postal Service.
"The 3,000 that we came up with, we believe that that is two-thirds shy of the actual number because most people don’t go to the post office to change their address," Schlapp said in a Nov. 9 interview with former White House press secretary Sean Spicer.
But Martha Johnson, a spokesperson for the Postal Service, said the service was "unable to confirm" that only one-third of people report when they change their address. "The USPS processed approximately 36 million change of addresses" in 2020, Johnson said.
Schlapp has not backed his claims up with any hard evidence. Even if 9,000 absentee voters did mail in ballots to Nevada from out of state, there’s no proof any of them did so illegally, as he claimed.
A spokesperson for Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske, a Republican, declined to comment on Schlapp’s specific claims but pointed to a statement. It said Nevada is investigating all credible allegations of fraud but noted that "many voter fraud complaints lack any evidence."
- oeb11
- 08-06-2021, 10:30 AM
the blinded by indoctrination sheeples don't care about facts and Truth - only their indoctrinated Xinn narrative.
we can all ignore their pre-imprinted responses.
groupthink and doublespeak.
Sheeples.
They Lie - its the core of their indoctrination by their marxist masters
we can all ignore their pre-imprinted responses.
groupthink and doublespeak.
Sheeples.
They Lie - its the core of their indoctrination by their marxist masters
- Jacuzzme
- 08-06-2021, 10:54 AM
The old ‘but we only cheated a little’ argument rises again.
- royamcr
- 08-06-2021, 11:01 AM
- oeb11
- 08-06-2021, 11:44 AM
he blinded by indoctrination sheeples don't care about facts and Truth - only their indoctrinated Xinn narrative.
we can all ignore their pre-imprinted responses.
groupthink and doublespeak.
Sheeples.
They Lie - its the core of their indoctrination by their marxist masters
we can all ignore their pre-imprinted responses.
groupthink and doublespeak.
Sheeples.
They Lie - its the core of their indoctrination by their marxist masters
- Little Monster
- 08-06-2021, 12:55 PM
- oeb11
- 08-06-2021, 02:07 PM
Sad - that DPST minions always resort to scatology, intercourse synonyms, and Lies as 'debate points'.
They just cannot live without four letter words of profanity.
Does that type of communication inflate their egos - Hmm - i guess nothing much DPST gets inflated .
They just cannot live without four letter words of profanity.
Does that type of communication inflate their egos - Hmm - i guess nothing much DPST gets inflated .
- Strokey_McDingDong
- 08-06-2021, 02:19 PM
Dude, a fact check is not a legitimate source LOL.
- bambino
- 08-06-2021, 02:29 PM
More votes counted than cast in Nevada 2020Happened in Michigan, Pa, Wisconsin and Az.
But this was a totally fraud free election. Originally Posted by texassapper
https://t.me/praying_medic/3959
- bambino
- 08-06-2021, 02:56 PM
- royamcr
- 08-06-2021, 06:31 PM