#1. An undercover cop or informant working for cops can NEVER make inappropriate contact with you or it's entrapment. For instance, Girls, if you aren't sure of the guy, in a playful and flirty way, maybe grab on him, or grab his hands and place them on certain areas of your body. I know providers who also work as dancers do this often so I'm sure there's a way you can incorporate this tactic when seeing a man you aren't sure of. Guys, it's even easier for you. Suppose the provider in question has a nice rack, ask her if she's all natural, real or not, if she's for real she'll usually respond by asking if you to feel for yourself. If she's got a nice booty or nice legs I'm sure you can somehow work in a comment that would work. If she's for real, she'd have no problem letting you cop a feel.
#2. Constantly and specifically bringing up money = red flag. Hobbyist or provider. I remember back when I had no vehicle, to and from work I'd have to pass by a motel where not only was there alot of street walkers, but cops knew damn well that this place was a well known hang out for them. Girls were ALWAYS propositioning me, but they were doing so in this exact manner and for that I always felt uneasy in that area.
#3. If your really in doubt, ask for/offer services that technically don't count as sexual favors. Topless dancing, massage, nude modeling, UC's won't bother with any of these activities but the real deals know what they lead to. Worst case scenario you only get what you asked for, but then again that's a good case scenario because I don't know bout the rest of you fellas but I like me a good massage or lap dance so to me it's all good in my book.
Originally Posted by 51MEANTXGUNS50
#1. Patently false.
Law Enforcement Officers (LEO or LEOs) and / or Confidential Informants or Cooperating Witnesses (CI/CW or CI) may have and have had
sex to completion prior to arrest or citation. This occurs throughout the country. It has been widely reported in the media and subsequently discussed in length here on ECCIE and on other boards.
Different jurisdictions and Agencies have different policies on this matter and when this activity leaks to the press it is usually frowned upon by the public, however, it occurs ALL THE TIME. Do you believe that an undercover officer working a drug case can't do drugs? Well, they can, they are given immunity from prosecution for most all their "illegal acts" in developing their cover and building their case short of murder (and even then, depending on how "deep" the undercover operation is, there have been reports of Federal officers - think DEA, ICE, DHS - going so far as to commit murder to not blow their cover . . . not to mention what our country's intelligence gathering officers may do on foreign soil, but that is a whole other thread / discussion). Vice officers do drugs, have sex and gamble to do their job!
Gentlemen, consider that occasionally, a lot of this discussion happens in the ladies only "powder room" and on other boards that are accessible only by verified Escorts / providers.
The postulate that a LEO or a CI/CW cannot have sex with you and then arrest or cite you (or have you investigated, arrested or cited) is a myth!
#2. Discussion of money is not a problem.
HOWEVER, tying a discussion of money to the promised or implied performance of a sexual act for money is
illegal. Even using an acronym such as GFE in an advertisement and then discussing money can land either party in hot water. If you discuss fee (which is perfectly legal to do) ensure you are consistently speaking about a fee for time, and not a specific, overt or implied illegal act.
This is a difficult concept for many gentlemen to grasp, and most Escorts / providers that are new to the endeavor might be better off to just NOT discuss money . . . however, the discussion of a fee in and of itself is not necessarily a "red flag".
The postulate that discussing fee at any time is an indicator that one of the parties to the transaction is a LEO or a CI/CW is a myth!
#3. Asking for something "else" is not going to help you in any instance, if you've stumbled into a "sting" or you are dealing with a LEO or a CI/CW.
Most all state statutes dealing with prostitution (and the solicitation thereof) also address activity that may satisfy the "prurient interest" (prurient - adjective: having or encouraging an excessive interest in sexual matters). Also, if it is a "sting", you're not
EVER going to "get what you asked for . . . in the worse case scenario".
Just showing up will get you ticketed or arrested.
The postulate that asking for something "legal" will protect you from a legal entanglement is a myth!
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Be safe everyone!
Kisses,
- Jackie