Democracy, Are We Not?

We are not. At least that is not how we were established.

"There is no maxim in my opinion which is more liable to be misapplied, and which therefore needs elucidation than the current one that the interest of the majority is the political standard of right and wrong.... In fact it is only reestablishing under another name and a more specious form, force as the measure of right."

~ James Madison, Letter to James Monroe, 1786

"I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others." - Thomas Jefferson

more blasts from the past.

go rent Midnight in Paris. You can whack off to antique shit all night.

Please explain how the above quotes are no longer applicable to today's society, Assup.

Please explain how the above quotes are no longer applicable to today's society, Assup. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Oh don't let him rattle ya. Assup only wacks off to current shit like Obama's state of the union address and Piers Morgan's Gun Control Debates, lol.

why not quote the Bible, Whiny? or the Code of Hammurabi?

what's your point? That you've got a year's subscription to Bartletts book of quotes?

How about a great quote about democracy, freedom and the fucking constitution by someone post, lets see, 1900?

"there once was a man from Nantucket"

Tell me how that isn't relevant today, Whiny bitch?

Oh don't let him rattle ya. Assup only wacks off to current shit like Obama's state of the union address and Piers Morgan's Gun Control Debates, lol. Originally Posted by acp5762

Assup doesn't rattle. He's funny as hell! All that stupidity wrapped up in an overinflated ego. Priceless!

why not quote the Bible, Whiny? or the Code of Hammurabi?

what's your point? That you've got a year's subscription to Bartletts book of quotes?

How about a great quote about democracy, freedom and the fucking constitution by someone post, lets see, 1900?

"there once was a man from Nantucket"

Tell me how that isn't relevant today, Whiny bitch? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

If you can't answer the question, Assup, just say so.

Oh, and here's another one for you. Why does the following lack relevance for today?

It just seems crazy that fhe public money, controlled by the Federal Gubernment can be printed without the Public consent. The goubernment just keeps printing more money without anything to back it. Not gonna be pretty when it is worthless.

It just seems crazy that fhe public money, controlled by the Federal Gubernment can be printed without the Public consent. The goubernment just keeps printing more money without anything to back it. Not gonna be pretty when it is worthless. Originally Posted by fishingtwo

What's the difference between Monopoly Money and American Money? Haha Monopoly Money is made by Milton Bradley American Money is made by Ben Bernanke, both have no value, lol.

Good one...acp5762
And all the gimme gimme gimme oduummers supporters will tell you everything is fine no need to worrie.
What a crock

We are not. At least that is not how we were established.

"There is no maxim in my opinion which is more liable to be misapplied, and which therefore needs elucidation than the current one that the interest of the majority is the political standard of right and wrong.... In fact it is only reestablishing under another name and a more specious form, force as the measure of right."

~ James Madison, Letter to James Monroe, 1786 Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Get back to me in about 3-1/2 years when O'Blunder is done with his "fundamental change" agenda. If he gets his way, we will not look anything like what the Founders intended.

TJ and COG were classmates...

TJ and COG were classmates... Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Only because StupidOldLyingFart was held back 3 years!

The government of the founding fathers has been turned upside down. The founders believed that the House (the people's house) was going to run the country and be tempered by the slower moving Senate. The President was more figurehead most of the time. The only time the President became truly vital was in wartime hence the title Commander in Chief. The President did have a check on the power of the Congress with a veto but it was far from impossible for a veto to be overturned. Everything goes back to the Congress. In the days of the founders presidential candidates didn't even run for office. They were nominated by supporters and usually came from the ranks of the House or Senate, though it was not required and they were elected by the House and Senate. There was no direct democracy. The founders thought that direct democracy was nothing more than mob rule.