Im going to just leave this here...Satan666

I've had several clients tell me to raise my rates. That I should expect more because of type of encounter I provide. The lack of respect I just saw under a review and a honest answer from someone that gave a review is unacceptable in every aspect of the business. If you didn't want a response, simply don't ask the question. Even better idea, I do have a showcase that specifies my rates you are welcome to refer too. I know my worth and I have gone down a lot of pricing to accommodate for Wichita. I , also, realize economic situation in Kansas. I am understanding of that . I am easy-going. Obviously, haven't had any complaints thus far.
Please be an adult and show some respect.
We all come from different walks of lives and are headed on different paths. Respect for others will get you alot further than you could have ever anticipated.

I have had memorable experiences and hope to keep growing and establishing myself here.

Honestly , I don't see why its any of you concern .

I am accommodating, If you need some-type of discount to afford the set rate . If that is your issue here. Sometimes , we go through hard times and that's OK. I understand .
Otherwise, I just don't see why you couldn't let that be a compliment towards me.
Why try to make something kind someone had to say and turn into something negative. I see alot of you posts through-out Eccie on the forums. I have yet to see anything positive from you . It is always drama provoking and negative. Maybe that is who you are as a person, maybe its your way of seeking attention. Alot of unknowns. Anything concerning me , I would request that you don't leave a response. I have no desire to know you. So, there is no reason to inquire about me. Thank you . Hope your outlook on life changes and you see more of the positive and become a happier person.

Just because I think you need a little bit of kindness in your life ...here is a hug.


Yesterday, 06:37 AM #3 ictgreyhound
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Her hourly rate is 200 which I personally feel she's under selling herself. If you want multi hrs you'll have to discuss that with her depending on your interests. I can assure you, she's very reasonable and worth every penny
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are you trying to pay more? jesus i bet you have expressed that to her haven't you? why would you make a statement like that on the public side of the forum? Quote



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Posts: 259 Nothing Golden. I'm very laid back and humble. I'm a not stuck up and have lived a life you couldn't even imagine. I keep going each and every day. Beauty doesn't define who I am. It helps financially. I am a simple person and enjoy the small things in life. Even beyond that my personality is what makes such strong connection with people. No one owes my anything. If you ever had the chance, I would like to prove your comment wrong.
Although, I am a little weird at times and goofy. If that's something you could handle.


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Satan666 is not being rude or negative. He’s being honest. Guys don’t need to discuss our rates with us. That’s unprofessional. Here in Wichita most providers have GPS and overcharge... Or most raise their rates after clients suggest it... Don’t let a guy decide your worth. If you have to play around with your rates til you find what works for you, so be it. I tried upping my rates and struggled keeping steady business here. Never again. Upping your rates as a new provider still trying to build her reputation will do you more harm than good. Wichita is a cheap city.

It’s your body, your call but do what makes you feel comfortable and makes you money. I personally wouldn’t negotiate my rates with clients but that’s just me.

In conclusion.... I wasn't planning on raising my rates because of client suggestion. I took it as compliment. Kinda smeared one now, but none the less a compliment. I'm not so easily swayed by any one individual, provider or hobbyist. I make my own decisions and stand behind them. I don't negotiate, I was being a smart-ass because my rate was such a concern for this individual. Everyone has their own opinion or how they look at things. Thanks for you opinion always good to see from different perspective.

P.S. one other thing I agree with Gemma.
Never let a guy or anyone decide for you what your time is worth!
P.P.S
I like weird and goofy!

I don't. Not sure how this is the main topic .if I spend afternoon with someone I'm not charging by the hour . Hang out , going on a date , even just watching a movie, go have some drinks, whatever it may be ...then playing. I'm not going to run it up for that. I will work something out that is fair for me and the client . That's my choice . I enjoy going and doing things . Not the Wichita norm of wham bam thank you mam. To each their own. I don't know the next persons hustle. None of my business, and I really don't care. Never a negotiation it is me offering some slack for a whole evening or afternoon filled with other activities.
Like it or love it . Doesn't phase me. I don't take advantage and enjoy what that has to offer more then timed sessions. At the end of the day , everyone is u unique and will stand out in their own way. I'm not trying to fit into the norm . I'm going to stay true to myself and do what I feel should happen in particular situations . Everyone will ha e different viewpoints . Diversity is good , it challenges the norm. ...

well natalie i had viewed your showcase when you first got on eccie and mistakenly thought that your rate was higher reason for asking! how you think every post i make is drama provoking or negative im unsure because that is definitely not the case. how you see your rep smeared i am unsure because the comment i made was not directed towards you and no disrespect was meant or said to or about you!

i thought you are an amazing looking woman but you have obviously made up your mind that you wont see me anyways! so it is what it is i have said not one thing slanderous about or towards you but you have no problem slinging mud at me! my comment was not really pointed towards you it may have been in the thread on your review but it is a increasing generalized comment at least that's how it was meant. and darlin i have no issues with being able to pay your rate or anyone else's for that matter look at my reviews!

Have a good day everyone

I don’t get it why somebody would try to pay more for something. It doesn’t matter how wealthy somebody is, you don’t see Millionaires Trying to pay more for a mc donals whopper . I think it’s discriminatory. Shame!

All, my sincere regrets for the friction caused by my ignorance and inept response in answering the question asked of me regarding rates. I've used this site only for reviews when directed here from another site I utilize. Although I question Mr. 6's tact, his admonishment of my blunder may have been well founded if I inadvertently over stepped any forum boundaries regarding acceptable dialog. As I said, my only previous experience here are the reviews where rates are openly posted and discussed and I've never followed the forums until now so I was unaware I was out of line. I never bargain over a providers rates. After researching reviews I give the benefit of doubt and assume a provider knows her value. If I have a different opinion after an initial visit, I simply don't visit that provider again. No harm..no foul, I move on. It has also been my experience that the hourly rate is almost always negotiable to a flat rate when arranging extended evenings, over-nites, or weekend travel which is my primary interest. I met Natalie when another provider had to cancel in the 11th hour. She was quick to response and was accommodating to my late notice. She treated me very well and was a breath of fresh air. She said she'd appreciate a review and that's all I wanted to do along with pay her a compliment. I truly meant no harm, especially to her. I hope this helps alleviate some of the friction and negativity and lessens the black eye I may have given myself. I still have not met Gemma but promise if that opportunity ever presents itself, or with any other provider, I'll keep my freckin mouth shut....lol. Peace

in short i was not trying to belittle anyone certainly not miss natalie or igh! all i was trying to do was point out your faux pas ict. didn't think in a million years something so trivial would be blown out of proportion by the provider. who obviously has a lot to learn about the hobby!

also for the record miss natalie you asked what business it is of mine? that is simple it is hobbyists like myself who help pay you ladies bills or tuition or habits etc etc!

Girl. He didn't mean any harm. That is one of my boys. And one of the sweetest guy ever! If someone else is saying that you are worth more take it as a compliment and do whatever you want to do. It is that easy babe.

Everyone has things they need to learn. One would be a fool to think that they have nothing left to learn. Hmmmm. You weren't the hobbyist in this scenario. Therefore, did nothing beneficial for me and never will. ( Except give me a headache, feel like I'm bickering with a female.) Wait a minute .....two things actually.

Number 2:
I have put a lot of thought into your avatar picture and I still don't understand the concept. Brainstorming. I eventually came up with that you are the armpit person. Only logical explanation. So, that's cool. I guess. Not really. I am grateful for diversity in the world. Some perspectives and mainframes, just don't make sense to me.

That's ok always stay true to yourself and who you are. ( Even if its an armpit concept) You go and make the world a better place. I'd suggest Dove Advanced Care. If you're going to be having a lot of those types of encounters. Original is good ...Your avatar definitely looks like a Dove Cucumber type of armpit. We may never know.

.........I'm kinda done with this whole thing. Unless you want to carry on about the armpit. Curious as to the psychology of why someone would make that their profile picture. Do you know the person? It was Dove, wasn't it:? hehe
I don't know what to say anymore. Sssssoooooo....I'm just going to be weird. The weird situation calls for weird conversation. .....or not. Who knows? Definitely, not me. (So, I have been told.)

Obviously, we are both strong-willed and hard-headed. Ok? ok. This isn't going anywhere or being resolved.
We had the difference of opinion. That's fine. If someone always agreed and went along with what I said it would be hilarious. I would mess with them all the time.

Agree to disagree.
I still have the same opinion I formed from the beginning and you do, as well.

Whoever agrees/disagrees with whomever in this dispute we had that's the wonderful part of life, you can make that choice and be proud of your decision. When it comes down to it, you are entirely the only person that thought your input mattered. If you were not directly involved. That's cool. How it makes you feel is all the matters. Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion. Some more than others seem to make that very clear. Let your voice be heard, if that is whats needed for a feeling of being contentment within yourself.

Drama seems to pull in the most precarious types of people. Stimulating to see different and unique personalities.
Is problem-solving being used? By posting this response am I making any kind of difference?
Am I instigating the situation?
Am I being relevant?
Am I picking sides, instead of genuinely trying to help resolve a conflict?

Now, armpits I apologize for making this a public ordeal. Instead, I should have sent you a private message. I still feel the same way. At least, that way. We could have bickered amongst ourselves without the input of others. That didn't serve any purpose. Perhaps, I didn't go about it the right way and that I can admit. Not easily. This should have been private messaged,
All we can do at this point is discuss your avatar. I'm actually kind of up and bored. So, I do have time for a story. hehe

.......all weirdness aside. Let's move on, if that's ok with you. We have both made our statements concerning the issue. I get your viewpoint. I would hope you understood mine, as well. AAAANNNDDD ....pretty sure all of Eccie has come to their own conclusions.Keep going if you want. Who am I to judge., but I will not be participating in this discussion anymore. Thanks for your input I do respect what you had to say even though disagreeing. Stay Blessed.

- NatalieRene

Important:
( I know I can write novels. Didnt want you to miss your compliment. )
Nikkilove91:
I like how you handled yourself in this situation and your feedback. It was neutral and classy. Get it girl.

not into armpits darlin its a woman with a vagina tattooed on the inside of her arm that she is licking! when i have pa my tag line is pussy liquor hope that clears up your armpit theory.

and thank you nikki you know me on a personal level outside the hobby your kind words are appreciated!

in all my tenure here on eccie i have never dealt with a prima donna like this! even when majority of the comments are siding with me as to the relevance of the comment in question.

as to your ill fated judgement to never see me natalie that is your loss. i find girls that have a permanent spot on my dance card who i like see a lot of my money! there are several providers that i frequently talk to outside of the hobby setting. i am a resource that you threw away with a poor judgement call on your part natalie!

btw just curious how did you see the private tag comment by rockthomas that you responded to on the review in question?

(edit)for the record im not bickering this thread was started by yourself natalie. trying to smear my reputation on the board! in the grand scheme of things over something minute and petty and in all honesty you're doing me a favor by choosing not to see me petty prima donnas i can do without. you say my minuscule comment slightly smeared your reputation when in actuality you did that to yourself by starting this thread!(end edit)

Is this a low-key threAD for some kind of potential customer/litigant humiliation domme service?

Writing a novel on a hookerboard forum page over a perceived slight best summed up in total by the single word "Whatever..." would make one wonder.

I could make you wonder a whole lot of things. I don't have the time or patience for this type of ignorance.


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