PSE or GFE? Why not both?

So this is on my mind the last few days.


I always thought PSE was more actions you provided as opposed to the attitude in which you delivered the service.

So I flirt in advance, I kiss, make out, offer many positions, I like your 'happy juice' on me ( cim, facials among other places are welcome) I even get up after get a cloth to clean you up with. I return to bed for talk, kisses and it is then up to you if you are a multiple kinda guy or not depending on time left...

I identify as GFE but I do provide many PSE activities. I just need to feel more connected and comfortable than to just show up and do the negotiated acts and leave.

I understand its your dollar but I am about pleasure and getting mine too.

So your thoughts PLEASE...

Couldn't agree more. Your approach is exactly what I look for first in a provider. I've never understood what PSE really means because all of my dates involve any activity I wanted.

I find PSE is somewhat about both attitude and activities. I love offering sensuous GFE service. Still, when the opportunity presents itself and my companion's desires lean in the direction of a rowdy porn star style romp, I love providing that experience as well. For me, this includes higher intensity engagement, dirty talk, ample ass play including Greek, rimming, TUMA/TUHA, cum on face/body, and certain other experiences which may fall outside of what's considered GFE.

I love a lady who is GFE to a point but takes over when she gets so hot she likes to get her orgasm. I would much rather have her genuinely cum than fake it. It is as much about her satisfaction as mine. Although I am the one paying, it's not all about me. That is way too mechanical. I guess it is best described as an aggressive lady.

I enjoy a GFE date and as long as I get my BBBJ, DFK, and DATY with a position or two thrown in and my lady friend is putting forth a genuine effort to please me then I'm happy. Everything else is just gravy.

As a side note, thank you Heidi for taking an active part in this forum. I wish more ladies would contribute, it would make life so much more interesting.

Thanks CrazyLeg... I have been in this hobby longer than most. I started in 2002 with first review in 2003. Things were VERY different back then. I took a few years off well UTR after sad times in my family. When I came back I decided I wanted to see a specific type of person to fill my needs as a mature, single woman. I understand I am paid but I am here to get mine too. When I need to fake it I will stop.

I think this comment just gave me my next public forum conversation.
Thanks for the inspiration Sir...

I added some info to the SERVICES page on my personal site. The services I offer acronym style.

You can tell me what I qualify for...

I am proclaiming myself... GFE with a kinky twist... Some of my ORAL admirers will tell you I can claim PSE just off that one service. Got the photos to prove IT...

Good post. I've always assumed that if more GF's and SO's were PSE the definition would be moot. GFE would be = PSE.

While we all have our own ideas about what PSE and GFE mean, here is my take. While PSE does indicate some particular activities (deep throat, greek, CIM, MSOG), it is more about the buildup and overall experience. You can do all activities with GFE, but with PSE, it is more about how you do it, than what you do. With PSE, there is little foreplay, more straight to the point of the meeting, with little get to know you chat much less kissing and long drawn out foreplay. If you want more of a connection to your partner that you are about to be incredibly intimate with, then GFE is for you.

There is a place in life for both and both can be quite fun. It all depends on what you want out of this experience.

I am of the opinion that GFE can be whatever you want it to be. I have experienced almost everything on the menu in what I categorize as a GFE Experience. The level of connection is what makes a GFE session so much fun.

PSE can be fun, but I'd much rather enjoy the ladies company and the slow passion that GFE involves.

Showing up for a wham bam, thank you ma'am....is no fun.

When you both enjoy your time together.... anything can happen!

Just my opinion!

I identify as GFE but I do provide many PSE activities. I just need to feel more connected and comfortable than to just show up and do the negotiated acts and leave. Originally Posted by heidis_pleasure

Based on the replies, I'm firmly in the GFE camp.
And Heidi, you keep this up and you'll be at the top of my wish list in no time.

Based on the replies, I'm firmly in the GFE camp.
And Heidi, you keep this up and you'll be at the top of my wish list in no time. Originally Posted by Pmon

Pmon, she should be at the top of your list. She is the definitive GFE.

Pmon, she should be at the top of your list. She is the definitive GFE. Originally Posted by Woodford

I thought my latest oral worship with you was pretty PSE... .
With no upcharge... haha

I thought my latest oral worship with you was pretty PSE... .
With no upcharge... haha Originally Posted by heidis_pleasure

No sweetheart, no porn star would ever take a full hour to worship my cock the way you did, teasing me to the edge over and over. It takes a special woman who really enjoys oral to do what you do. That is an hour I hope to relive over and over ...

Our beloved Mr.Woodford while having my masters and not quite a phd I couldn't agree more.While doing double sessions with Heidi I have seen the amazing effects she has with Bbbj.If I was a gentleman she would most definitely be my favorite.