I've watched the turnover on these boards for 14 years now.
People come.
People Go.....
or so it seems......
A lot of guys find one or two and settle in with them and simply see them over and over... I have a buddy with a lady he refers to as his "hobby wife" that he sees the same night every week for years now....
I've seen a lot of ladies get here..... make a splash... find her regulars and disappear to seldom be seen again except when she pops back up to run an ad and see a few more because one of her regulars moved away.
Then we have ladies that are turning HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS or tricks..... advertising constantly.... constantly looking for new ways to garner interest.....
On the surface you think WOW! All these people adore her.....
But then you have to wonder.....
What's wrong with her?
Why is it that SallySue popped up 3 months ago and is never around anymore but you still hear about her from time to time and know she is active but BettyBoop has an ad or post in your face every day?
Sure.... There is a handful of guys that see her a lot and rave....... But there are hundreds that saw her once and never repeated? That tells me far more than the ones that rave about her.
What is it about that kind of woman that there is never a shortage of desperation in her presence? What drives the need for all that money that she cannot escape into a peaceful quiet existence where all her needs are met by regulars?
- Whispers
- 09-01-2014, 08:45 AM
- Guest032716
- 09-01-2014, 09:16 AM
- Whispers
- 09-01-2014, 09:27 AM
- Guest032716
- 09-01-2014, 10:19 AM
- lasvegas
- 09-01-2014, 10:25 AM
Is this a real question or sarcasm? Nobody knows each providers motivation... That's like asking hey why does ford run so many car commercials don't you think ford makes enough money...why does McDonald's run so many adds we all know McDonald's and what they sell..it's also grossly naive to say they don't like what they do...there are levels of happiness w what we all choose to do to make a living. It's a cost benefit situation...cost have to have sex w dudes they normally wouldn't. Benefits it allows and pays for their lifestyle that a normal 9 to 5 can't...there will come a time that the cost is to high for the benefits...but that applies to everyone in their own job situation.
- lovemeandleaveme
- 09-01-2014, 10:44 AM
Some are nymphomaniacs. A lot of them are on chemicals to get them through the day. Most of them have fucked up hobby lives because they have fucked up lives. Only three that I could name (but won't) have their shit together, know exactly what they want, will get it and will get out.
- SA Angel
- 09-01-2014, 10:59 AM
I can only speak for myself.
I post whore with the best of them and will continue to do so because old habits die hard. (I used to be very active on a gaming board) I don't run ads because I like the knowledge that people who have contacted me have done SOME reasearch and the I like my current balance I have between work, hobby, and play. I have posted in short notice.....three(?) times because of cancellations.
But ALL women like variety.
I have one gentleman I see who calls what we do "lovemaking not fucking" and another that calls me "his dirty whore". I absolutely love seeing both of these men because I get to express different sides of my sexuality. There are many facets I like to explore and certain regulars take care of certain ones. I will continue to see new people because each person is a brand new experience and maybe I'll find another side to myself that I have yet to let loose.
I would not judge a woman harshly for running ads. This is a business. Maybe she needs to replace a couple regulars. Maybe she knows her regulars need a pictorial reminder of why they decided she was their ATF to begin with. Maybe she is just maintaining her "brand" like Coke or Pepsi. Running an ad doesn't necessarily mean someone is hurting for company.
I post whore with the best of them and will continue to do so because old habits die hard. (I used to be very active on a gaming board) I don't run ads because I like the knowledge that people who have contacted me have done SOME reasearch and the I like my current balance I have between work, hobby, and play. I have posted in short notice.....three(?) times because of cancellations.
But ALL women like variety.
I have one gentleman I see who calls what we do "lovemaking not fucking" and another that calls me "his dirty whore". I absolutely love seeing both of these men because I get to express different sides of my sexuality. There are many facets I like to explore and certain regulars take care of certain ones. I will continue to see new people because each person is a brand new experience and maybe I'll find another side to myself that I have yet to let loose.
I would not judge a woman harshly for running ads. This is a business. Maybe she needs to replace a couple regulars. Maybe she knows her regulars need a pictorial reminder of why they decided she was their ATF to begin with. Maybe she is just maintaining her "brand" like Coke or Pepsi. Running an ad doesn't necessarily mean someone is hurting for company.
- canyonman
- 09-01-2014, 11:04 AM
- saustin
- 09-01-2014, 11:13 AM
What's wrong with her? Originally Posted by WhispersAbsolutely nothing.
What's wrong with you? We're listening.
- Bob McV
- 09-01-2014, 11:17 AM
I know better than to feed the trolls, but sometimes the hope to educate exceeds common sense.
You obviously are trying to make a specific point about a (few) specific ladies here, but I am going to pretend that you are in fact asking this in the general hypothetical terms you have presented them.
Transversely, There are many guys that see this as a way to notch their headboard and never see a woman more than once no matter how hard his world was rocked; for every one of these guy that is a regular a lady will never have and need to advertise to "replace"
Furthermore, I would suggest that due to the unique make up of the individual lady that she may not want to have a small pool of regulars as she might fear some level of emotional transference, or maybe the experience she is seeking isn't conducive to that type of business model.
I would posit noting is inherently wrong with her, she is just choosing to run her business in a way that you don't see as best, or most efficient or at least worthy of comment here.
Sally is so overwhelmed with other things in her world that she only pops up here when there is a clear and present need for cash.
Betty sees these forums as a social outlet and engages in discussions with others, and in the process sees other ladies posting ads, and feels motivated to do the same possibly thinking "Hey I am here chatting up these guys maybe a few would like to come see me"
In closing, I feel that there is a place for a discussion on the questions you ask. However the approach that if a lady doesn't do things the way you think is best That there is something "Wrong with her" is inherently closed minded and dismissive of others perspectives.
You obviously are trying to make a specific point about a (few) specific ladies here, but I am going to pretend that you are in fact asking this in the general hypothetical terms you have presented them.
I've watched the turnover on these boards for 14 years now. Originally Posted by WhispersFirstly your experiences and observations are unique to you, and doesn't give them any more weight and influence just because you have been staring at the same website for 14 years. Granted in that time you will have wider and deeper pool of experience than most, but that unto itself doesn't give it more value or weight. We all live in a world with our own personal rose tinted shades.
A lot of guys find one or two and settle in with them and simply see them over and over... I have a buddy with a lady he refers to as his "hobby wife" that he sees the same night every week for years now....Those are valid data points, and is surely how several guys work, and many women run their business. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I've seen a lot of ladies get here..... make a splash... find her regulars and disappear to seldom be seen again except when she pops back up to run an ad and see a few more because one of her regulars moved away. Originally Posted by Whispers
Transversely, There are many guys that see this as a way to notch their headboard and never see a woman more than once no matter how hard his world was rocked; for every one of these guy that is a regular a lady will never have and need to advertise to "replace"
Furthermore, I would suggest that due to the unique make up of the individual lady that she may not want to have a small pool of regulars as she might fear some level of emotional transference, or maybe the experience she is seeking isn't conducive to that type of business model.
Then we have ladies that are turning HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS or tricks..... advertising constantly.... constantly looking for new ways to garner interest.....I would venture to guess most truly active ladies (or at least those whose sole income is from the sex work industry) are turning hundred and hundreds of tricks. Some may have a business model that doesn't heavily rely on recorded reviews so may not appear to book such volume.
On the surface you think WOW! All these people adore her.....
But then you have to wonder.....
What's wrong with her? Originally Posted by Whispers
I would posit noting is inherently wrong with her, she is just choosing to run her business in a way that you don't see as best, or most efficient or at least worthy of comment here.
Why is it that SallySue popped up 3 months ago and is never around anymore but you still hear about her from time to time and know she is active but BettyBoop has an ad or post in your face every day? Originally Posted by WhispersI don't know the minds of either of these two hypothetical ladies but nevertheless I will make a guess and say:
Sally is so overwhelmed with other things in her world that she only pops up here when there is a clear and present need for cash.
Betty sees these forums as a social outlet and engages in discussions with others, and in the process sees other ladies posting ads, and feels motivated to do the same possibly thinking "Hey I am here chatting up these guys maybe a few would like to come see me"
Sure.... There is a handful of guys that see her a lot and rave....... But there are hundreds that saw her once and never repeated? That tells me far more than the ones that rave about her. Originally Posted by WhispersI posit that some of those guys never repeat reviews. I know personally I have only left a 2nd review of one lady and that is because she was also my first and that review was kind of terrible as I didn't have a sense of what I wanted to say or how I wanted to present myself to this community. Other than that unless something drastically different happens I see no point in essentially repeating the same review and more/less broadcasting how often I see anyone. So maybe it says as much about the guys as the lady.
What is it about that kind of woman that there is never a shortage of desperation in her presence? What drives the need for all that money that she cannot escape into a peaceful quiet existence where all her needs are met by regulars? Originally Posted by WhispersAs unique as snowflakes; the motivation and drive of any one person can't be easily categorized. It could be as simple that she isn't seeking a quiet existence that you feel she should.
In closing, I feel that there is a place for a discussion on the questions you ask. However the approach that if a lady doesn't do things the way you think is best That there is something "Wrong with her" is inherently closed minded and dismissive of others perspectives.
- Guest032117
- 09-01-2014, 11:33 AM
We market to meet our needs. Some have more financial burden than others. Some have a lifestyle to maintain. I personally have a certain level of lifestyle to maintain for my offspring. Were I single without dependents, I would have more money than I know what to do with, and my regulars would suffice. I would have accepted several offers to be kept off the market. However, I am far too independent to be accountable to anyone other than my dependents, and many men who hobby are not interested in taking on a package deal such as myself, nor would I want them to.
As far as my being so active in different forums, I enjoy it here and see it as another form of entertainment.
As far as my being so active in different forums, I enjoy it here and see it as another form of entertainment.
- newcumerz
- 09-01-2014, 11:40 AM
Lol these whisper threADS are funny.....and sad.
- Whispers
- 09-01-2014, 02:21 PM
You obviously are trying to make a specific point about a (few) specific ladies here, but I am going to pretend that you are in fact asking this in the general hypothetical terms you have presented them.
No. Not always,,,,,, Sometimes a question just pops in my head that I want to ask..... Sure... It occurs while I think about something more specific....But in many cases it is just a question.....
Firstly your experiences and observations are unique to you, and doesn't give them any more weight and influence just because you have been staring at the same website for 14 years. Granted in that time you will have wider and deeper pool of experience than most, but that unto itself doesn't give it more value or weight. We all live in a world with our own personal rose tinted shades.
I'm not sure where I suggested my experiences had anymore weight. Just saying it is something I've noticed for a long time....
Those are valid data points, and is surely how several guys work, and many women run their business. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Transversely, There are many guys that see this as a way to notch their headboard and never see a woman more than once no matter how hard his world was rocked; for every one of these guy that is a regular a lady will never have and need to advertise to "replace"
Furthermore, I would suggest that due to the unique make up of the individual lady that she may not want to have a small pool of regulars as she might fear some level of emotional transference, or maybe the experience she is seeking isn't conducive to that type of business model.
That is a statement I can totally agree with........ I have definitely seen it at play....
I would venture to guess most truly active ladies (or at least those whose sole income is from the sex work industry) are turning hundred and hundreds of tricks. Some may have a business model that doesn't heavily rely on recorded reviews so may not appear to book such volume.
I would posit noting is inherently wrong with her, she is just choosing to run her business in a way that you don't see as best, or most efficient or at least worthy of comment here.
I don't like contributing to "bad habits" and when I see someone that is extremely active but barely making ends meet or has nothing to show for the money I tend to steer clear......
I don't know the minds of either of these two hypothetical ladies but nevertheless I will make a guess and say:
Sally is so overwhelmed with other things in her world that she only pops up here when there is a clear and present need for cash.
Betty sees these forums as a social outlet and engages in discussions with others, and in the process sees other ladies posting ads, and feels motivated to do the same possibly thinking "Hey I am here chatting up these guys maybe a few would like to come see me"
Well... On that I disagree...... I don't believe any lady with a successful business is here working the boards by doing anything other than running an ad....NEED is driving most.....
I posit that some of those guys never repeat reviews. I know personally I have only left a 2nd review of one lady and that is because she was also my first and that review was kind of terrible as I didn't have a sense of what I wanted to say or how I wanted to present myself to this community. Other than that unless something drastically different happens I see no point in essentially repeating the same review and more/less broadcasting how often I see anyone. So maybe it says as much about the guys as the lady.
As unique as snowflakes; the motivation and drive of any one person can't be easily categorized. It could be as simple that she isn't seeking a quiet existence that you feel she should.
In closing, I feel that there is a place for a discussion on the questions you ask. However the approach that if a lady doesn't do things the way you think is best That there is something "Wrong with her" is inherently closed minded and dismissive of others perspectives. Originally Posted by Bob McV
To keep my perspective to myself and not ask a question is close minded. To open a topic up for discussion and have an exchange on the issue is something else.
- Camille Fox
- 09-01-2014, 03:41 PM
Very interesting topic. I often find that, when questions as such are posed, ppl in this world tend to respond with "it's the lady's business and she runs as such".
True... But, if we are to take a close look, if a lady is finding herself running aimlessly after business (having to advertise more than she thinks she should have to), working with a number AND quality of clients that is not to HER LEVEL of comfort, or not having enough revenue even after working her ass off, she needs to reevaluate one of the 4 "Ps". I guarantee you that you will find the issue there:
1. Product (or service). Must meet client requirement and she must perform as advertise (function). Appearance also falls in this category. Clients are willing to pay a premium for high performance and superior appearance.
2. Place. Where is she located? Is she located in a gated old folks home 37.8 miles off city limits? It's going to cost her. Does she only offer outcalls? It's going to cost her.
3. Promotion. How is she selling her product/service? How is she encouraging clients to avail themselves of it? Does her advertising contain pictures? Is she utilizing the socials as a PR tool or just a social event? Is she getting back to her clients on a timely manner? Has she branded herself well enough to separate herself from the herd? Is she utilizing "specials" wisely? Advertising does not necessarily mean "desperation" as long as that is not the message being sent. High end products are CONSTANTLY being advertised. It is the manner/forum of how it is being advertised.
Lack of advertisement does not equate superiority. In the case of an escort, the continuation of heavy advertisement when she is of high quality, high performance, and is not a traveler is probably related to the fourth aspect... And you will be surprised to find out it works out the opposite from what one would expect...
4. Price. Price needs to be RELEVANT to the product. Notice I'm not saying cheap/expensive. Despite what is generally expressed across this board, it is not just what the market can afford, but it should also reflect its image. A lady that has CONSISTENTLY excelled at the previous 3 "P"s will find herself chasing after business if she sells her product below its quality because clients will "hit it and quit it". Low value will be placed where low value was placed to begin with.
A famous vacation destination in lFlorida that has a mouse at its mascot does not have the best rides, or the best food, nor the best hotels, but it is consistently hitting high marks all the time on everything it does. It can now charge high prices, it has a very high rate of returning guests, and its advertisement it's classy and well targeted.
Much can be learned from watching the world around us. Just because we are dealing with sex, we forget that first and foremost, we are dealing with people.
Yours...
Camille
True... But, if we are to take a close look, if a lady is finding herself running aimlessly after business (having to advertise more than she thinks she should have to), working with a number AND quality of clients that is not to HER LEVEL of comfort, or not having enough revenue even after working her ass off, she needs to reevaluate one of the 4 "Ps". I guarantee you that you will find the issue there:
1. Product (or service). Must meet client requirement and she must perform as advertise (function). Appearance also falls in this category. Clients are willing to pay a premium for high performance and superior appearance.
2. Place. Where is she located? Is she located in a gated old folks home 37.8 miles off city limits? It's going to cost her. Does she only offer outcalls? It's going to cost her.
3. Promotion. How is she selling her product/service? How is she encouraging clients to avail themselves of it? Does her advertising contain pictures? Is she utilizing the socials as a PR tool or just a social event? Is she getting back to her clients on a timely manner? Has she branded herself well enough to separate herself from the herd? Is she utilizing "specials" wisely? Advertising does not necessarily mean "desperation" as long as that is not the message being sent. High end products are CONSTANTLY being advertised. It is the manner/forum of how it is being advertised.
Lack of advertisement does not equate superiority. In the case of an escort, the continuation of heavy advertisement when she is of high quality, high performance, and is not a traveler is probably related to the fourth aspect... And you will be surprised to find out it works out the opposite from what one would expect...
4. Price. Price needs to be RELEVANT to the product. Notice I'm not saying cheap/expensive. Despite what is generally expressed across this board, it is not just what the market can afford, but it should also reflect its image. A lady that has CONSISTENTLY excelled at the previous 3 "P"s will find herself chasing after business if she sells her product below its quality because clients will "hit it and quit it". Low value will be placed where low value was placed to begin with.
A famous vacation destination in lFlorida that has a mouse at its mascot does not have the best rides, or the best food, nor the best hotels, but it is consistently hitting high marks all the time on everything it does. It can now charge high prices, it has a very high rate of returning guests, and its advertisement it's classy and well targeted.
Much can be learned from watching the world around us. Just because we are dealing with sex, we forget that first and foremost, we are dealing with people.
Yours...
Camille
- Precious_b
- 09-01-2014, 03:58 PM
