Whatever happened to the meet and greet?

I typically only see only one girl on a regular basis. I don't like the process of vetting and screening new girls (yes I screen too.) I look for someone that is level headed, excellent personality and as drama free as possible. I like to know that girl well enough that I can trust her to come to my place and I can trust her enough that if she encounters an emergency need, I would feel comfortable assisting her. I also avoid attitudes and cold mechanical business relationships. I prefer to meet someone for the first time in a public place to give an opportunity to assess personality and get a feel for a person. I always compensate them for their time but look at that this meeting as a chance for them to market their qualities to me.

With all the scams, tricksters and potential threats both parties face, I would think girls would be favorable to a public meeting for introductions. I know in my own experience I have met a couple of girls that looked nothing like their pictures. I have met one that had such a poor attitude that it didn't matter to me how pretty she was, I would never call her. I have noticed though that many girls don't want to meet and some have even said "I am not looking to date someone." So what do we call this? What's your take?

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I have met one that had such a poor attitude that it didn't matter to me how pretty she was, I would never call her......... What's your take?[/QUOTE]

Right on to that. The worst attitude in a woman always seems to be found with the pretty ones. This seems to be brought on by the attention we pay to the pretty girls; it is not to their advantage. I saw it start to develop in my daughters. I praised and rewarded them for their accomplishments. Any woman can be pretty after a trip to the beauty shop, new clothes, etc. However, a bad attitude negates the beauty.

It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and angry woman. KJB Prov. 21:19

An average looking lady who helps her man is what all of the guys need.

JR

Some of us call those "out and abouts". Some girls do them, some don't. Normally the donation is a lesser amount than a normal appointment, but not always.

Some ladies can not be seen out in public due to various reasons (married, very recognizable, etc.) That may be the resistance that you see. Good luck.

Thanks for that input Holly. I am kind of in the same boat. I can't go anywhere it seems without seeing someone I know. That said, I have met a couple of girls for lunch before. The small risk for me could pay off for her in terms of multiple future meetings. I will often try to meet at a coffee shop then sit in the car and talk for a few minutes without other nosey people listening. For me its an opportunity to meet the personality. I am a complete package kind of guy and I want to know that the person I meet has more passion than a stack of rocks. I always cover the gas (a full tank) or more. In fact if she is all that she says she is, if she is the complete package I am looking for she will be rewarded handsomely. It just seems like so many girls don't want to invest in their future.

Maybe you're not looking at the right ladies then.

Thanks for that input Holly. I am kind of in the same boat. I can't go anywhere it seems without seeing someone I know. That said, I have met a couple of girls for lunch before. The small risk for me could pay off for her in terms of multiple future meetings. I will often try to meet at a coffee shop then sit in the car and talk for a few minutes without other nosey people listening. For me its an opportunity to meet the personality. I am a complete package kind of guy and I want to know that the person I meet has more passion than a stack of rocks. I always cover the gas (a full tank) or more. In fact if she is all that she says she is, if she is the complete package I am looking for she will be rewarded handsomely. It just seems like so many girls don't want to invest in their future. Originally Posted by Wildbillyolo

Same here, I like to meet a new girl first before I decide. Sometimes I buy dinner to get to know a girl. Kinda like a job interview with no obligation to hire. But, I have usually given her gas money to leave without a scene; especially if an attitude is detected.

Better to be safe.

JR

I typically only see only one girl on a regular basis. I don't like the process of vetting and screening new girls (yes I screen too.) I look for someone that is level headed, excellent personality and as drama free as possible. I like to know that girl well enough that I can trust her to come to my place and I can trust her enough that if she encounters an emergency need, I would feel comfortable assisting her. I also avoid attitudes and cold mechanical business relationships. Originally Posted by Wildbillyolo

Sounds like you want a sugar baby more than a provider. There are dozens of places online that can assist with that, and the ladies there are more oriented towards the kind of relationship you describe.

Some ladies still do introductory meetings. Generally I like to believe it depends on the situation or the lady. For one provider it may not be cost effective to take an hour out of her day that would be used for a client.

I agree that you might be seeking a modified sugar arrangement. Those can be tricky to find but it is possible. Seekingarrangements.com (sp) allows you to see what they expect a month in regards to financial help.

Alternately if you want to be assured the intimacy I would look into the higher end girls. They are more confident in their funds and more likely to accept a pre meeting date before setting up an actual appointment or date.

Right on to that. The worst attitude in a woman always seems to be found with the pretty ones.
JR Originally Posted by JRLawrence

Perhaps you should try swimming in a different pond....

The worst attitude in a woman always seems to be found with the pretty ones.

An average looking lady who helps her man is what all of the guys need. Originally Posted by JRLawrence

Whether in this sub-culture or not, my experiences have been completely the opposite of your all-inclusive claim.

Malwoody's suggestion should help. Swim or fish, as the case may be, in a different pond.

The last M&G/Bike ride never really got off of the ground..

If LE saw the announcement here and scouted the location they would have seen Helicopter parked out front in the red Mustang with the top down.. He was kind enough to announce his presence here on Eccie...

Once a Newbie..

The one before that was in exactly the same location as the one the month before...needless to say, it got a bit wild..and duh..in hindsight there were a number of us who should have known better...

Over time what I have seen is there needs to be one main organizer who makes it happen..at least here in this area the best ones have been the result of one person with help putting it together..and most of them have been a lot of fun...

I sense that at least around here anyway,...the practice has come and gone

For me its an opportunity to meet the personality. I am a complete package kind of guy and I want to know that the person I meet has more passion than a stack of rocks. I always cover the gas (a full tank) or more. In fact if she is all that she says she is, if she is the complete package I am looking for she will be rewarded handsomely. It just seems like so many girls don't want to invest in their future. Originally Posted by Wildbillyolo

May I ask, why this can not be accomplished via a phone call? If you have viewed her website, reviews, showcase, etc, and you are sitting down to coffee to chat, how are you going to gauge passion differently than a phone call conversation?

Alternately if you want to be assured the intimacy I would look into the higher end girls. They are more confident in their funds and more likely to accept a pre meeting date before setting up an actual appointment or date. Originally Posted by JayceeRivers

[COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]This is true... in general , higher end, seasoned, and mature ladies generally prefer longer appointments in which time is spent getting aquainted, conversation, slow intimacy rather than a 15min quickie.

I now see the problem some are having with meets and greets. When I mentioned an "out and about" rate, I was not referring to a tank of gas. LOL I would hope that any lady in this business can buy their own gas. I was referring to something more like $150 an hr with an hr minimum. It helps to think logical about this. This not a poor man's hobby. However, everyone is entitled to want what they want, and they say closed mouths don't get fed,
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Holly,
I prefer not to discuss needs, wants and desires by phone. I think you know as well as I that phone conversations are not the preferred method of communication. I look for visual clues in the eyes and the way the body moves, etc.
As far as the tank of gas goes, maybe that's not a good reference. My car costs $100 to fill. The financial requirement varies I suppose. I am not trying to be cheap, but I have met some girls that for a hundred dollars I would just as soon flush that money down the toilet. I am more in line with JR's philosophy, buy dinner and give her some cash to leave if she wants. To me its a marketing thing. They are interviewing and I would think they would want to market well.
Jaycee, I like the term modified sugar baby but I don't want to provide a guaranteed stipend each month for the possibility of meeting once or twice... Seems like those always end up being ATM relationships.
Maybe it is a pond thing and I should be looking for a new place to fish but seems like all those sites are full of fakes and unrealistic expectations.

You're seeking a coffee/lunch or dinner date. Most ladies who offer those types of dates have a set price and usually a list of places that are out of the way where people wouldn't know either of you.

When I have a potential client call me who is seeking a regular type of thing with me, I ask that we talk a couple times on the phone before meeting (any type of meeting) because it makes that first meeting a little less awkward. Cause lets face it, first time meetings of any type can be awkward and usually one party is always nervous. I know I'm a little more relaxed after chatting with someone on the phone a couple times.

Good luck in your search.

Ahhhh, ok. Your explanation makes perfect sense now. I had not even considered talking about desires, and you are correct that it is not a phone discussion safe area. I appreciate you taking the time to clarify.

Well, you seem like a well mannered gentleman, and there are so many really sweet ladies in KC, I'm sure you will have no problem working something out that suits your needs and wants. xoxo



QUOTE=Wildbillyolo;1055072162]Holly,
I prefer not to discuss needs, wants and desires by phone. I think you know as well as I that phone conversations are not the preferred method of communication. I look for visual clues in the eyes and the way the body moves, etc.
As far as the tank of gas goes, maybe that's not a good reference. My car costs $100 to fill. The financial requirement varies I suppose. I am not trying to be cheap, but I have met some girls that for a hundred dollars I would just as soon flush that money down the toilet. I am more in line with JR's philosophy, buy dinner and give her some cash to leave if she wants. To me its a marketing thing. They are interviewing and I would think they would want to market well.
Jaycee, I like the term modified sugar baby but I don't want to provide a guaranteed stipend each month for the possibility of meeting once or twice... Seems like those always end up being ATM relationships.
Maybe it is a pond thing and I should be looking for a new place to fish but seems like all those sites are full of fakes and unrealistic expectations.[/QUOTE]