Possible Issue EF

Hi, I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be putting this here or not (first post!) so please correct me.

I was reading the forums and one of the things that I found was several complaints about not hearing from EF when trying to book (I am a provider). I was informed yesterday by Brooke that they will now be requiring a photocopy of provider's driver's licenses in order to book appts. This set off a big old alarm in my head, especially in combination with unanswered requests.

I don't know enough about the industry to know if this is standard or not but I am pretty leery right now. Would appreciate feedback if this sounds normal or if I'm right to be paranoid about continuing my association with EF.

Thanks!
midwestmonique's Avatar
Eros requires you to fax them a copy of photo ID before you can post with them...maybe an issue with underage girls?? IDK???!!!
In my opinion if Brook asked for it there is a good reason.
Its probably just for 2257 compliance.
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  • Bubba
  • 10-05-2010, 04:58 PM
I moved this thread here from the Alerts section.

Sillygirl.....I realize this is your first post so no big deal BUT.... When in doubt of where to post something....this goes for everyone.....read the description of the forum. In the case Alert forum it says the following:

"Alerts - Kansas City Metro and Kansas
Issues which could endanger the safety of a member or members of our community go here. Please reserve this space for legitimate alerts, and not general FYI material."

No shows, no calls, asking providers for ID....none of those things present a danger to anyone in the community. These topics belong in the Discussions area.

Carry on.....
I rather thought my question was regarding whether EF was still a legitimate agency and working with LE suited the alerts forum but you live, you learn.
  • jac01
  • 10-05-2010, 06:55 PM
It's probably, as previously mentioned, for proof of age verification. I would speculate that it may be related to complying with tax laws or something of that nature that a business owner must deal with.
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I was told it was to verify age. I have no concern with her request. When I worked with Plaza Escorts, Dennis made a copy of my ID during my interview. I never had a problem with Plaza having my real info for over a year. Brook is just covering her own ass with this one. Providers could tell her any age and/or use a fake ID. If ever a question came up to the age of her providers, then she has proof she verified it.

& for the guys: it should make you feel a bit safer that the provider you are seeing is indeed over 18.

I love the hobby but firmly believe everyone envolved should be an adult.

Yep, Bristol is right.
As an Escort that has contracted with many an Agency across the country, and also having personally contracted locally for Plaza Escorts, I can tell you that photocopying an independent contractor's state-issued identification is standard operating procedure for ANY / EVERY LEGITIMATE Agency. If it WAS NOT a requirement at Enticing Flavors, then perhaps, you (and everyone else for that matter) would have reason to be concerned. If you have something "more" you're concerned about, please do post your thoughts . . . However, the issue of providing identification to a legitimate Agency would not concern me or any other established, working professional, in my experienced opinion. If this requirement is a recent change in policy at Enticing Flavors, it may signal nothing more than an increased awareness to be "paperwork" compliant with best business practices and procedures that may prove to insulate the Agency from culpability in light of unrelated, recent events (specifically, recent allegations of minors and women of diminished mental capacity working - or being forced to work - in the greater Kansas City area).

Your statement of " . . . whether EF was still a legitimate agency and working with LE" is a very disconcerting allegation. If you have some other concern that leads you to make such allegation, I am certain the community would want to be advised of the facts of the matter. However, it seems a very big step, IMHO, to go from "I don't know enough about the industry to know if this is standard or not but I am pretty leery right now. Would appreciate feedback if this sounds normal or if I'm right to be paranoid about continuing my association with EF" in your initial posting, to subsequently making a statement with the inference being a direct accusation of Enticing Flavors colluding or cooperating with law enforcement. Am I mistaken, or was that your intent? I apologize if I read your posting incorrectly, but, as you admit to being "new" to both this endeavor and to this board, such allegations are not to be made lightly and generally require some type of corroboration if published in this forum, regardless of what such an utterance may do to one's reputation in any circumstance, especially if made recklessly, intentionally or otherwise . . .

Kisses,

- Jackie
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I thought the OP was concerned with EF asking for photo-copies of the client's ID's, not the providers. A good explanation was offered for this above as well.
I thought the OP was concerned with EF asking for photo-copies of the client's ID's, not the providers. A good explanation was offered for this above as well. Originally Posted by Jazzer
I didn't read the original post that way because, frankly, if Enticing Flavors implemented a policy requiring the photocopying and retention of a client's identification prior to booking an appointment, well, I don't see how they could continue business long enough (for lack of bookings) for it to be of concern, IMHO.

I understand that a lot of people trust Brooke and Enticing Flavors, and rightfully so based on past performance, however, I cannot fathom in any manner how that policy would be tolerated by most clients in this endeavor's current climate. There may be a small handful of gentlemen that wouldn't have concern. . . However, if it were, in fact, the case that Enticing Flavors requires obtaining and keeping a record of an appointment (or an appointment request) via a copy of a client's identification, then I would severely modify my comments to the original poster and agree that an alert may be warranted if such policy was substantiated to exist . . .

In my experience, I do not know of any other Agency that has such a policy in place (although, physically examining a valid form of identification may be used to verify the veracity of information provided by the client prior to a first appointment; I have never seen or heard of that information being retained or copied). Even in certain counties in Nevada where brothels are legal business entities (and I have contracted with several personally) such client information / documentation is not archived once the client exits the establishment's doors. Now, even with MY understanding that Enticing Flavors provides a legal escort service and they have a "do nothing illegal" policy for their contractors, I would assume that local law enforcement may attempt to make a case otherwise . . . so they (Enticing Flavors) would not want to retain client records any more than the client would like them to do so . . .

However, that being said, I truly believe this is NOT an issue of a client being required to provide identification to be copied or retained, but that this is directed solely towards those that contract (the Escorts) for Enticing Flavors.

Kisses,

- Jackie
  • jac01
  • 10-06-2010, 02:35 PM
This issue is dealing with the ladies employed by EF having to provide a copy of their driver's licenses to Brook for age verification purposes. Clients are not required to show ID unless it is the client's first appointment with the agency and in that case, my experience at that time was exactly as Jackie described. Bristol has explained everything quite well earlier in the thread and Zoey affirmed that what Bristol said is true. I had an appointment this morning and will verify that no, clients do not have to provide a photocopy of an ID.
This issue is dealing with the ladies employed by EF having to provide a copy of their driver's licenses to Brook for age verification purposes. Clients are not required to show ID unless it is the client's first appointment with the agency and in that case, my experience at that time was exactly as Jackie described. Bristol has explained everything quite well earlier in the thread and Zoey affirmed that what Bristol said is true. I had an appointment this morning and will verify that no, clients do not have to provide a photocopy of an ID. Originally Posted by jac01
Thanks, jac01 . . . In which case, the original poster has nothing to be concerned about unless the original poster has a reason to not want to comply with an industry-standard request.

Kisses,

- Jackie
I rather thought my question was regarding whether EF was still a legitimate agency and working with LE suited the alerts forum but you live, you learn. Originally Posted by SillyGirl

So not cool to presume/accuse Brook of not being legit and/or working with LE.

I agree with what Jackie stated. I've worked for two agencies and if you didn't provide a valid ID, you didn't work for them. If you can't provide a valid ID, you're hiding something, maybe something such as being underage.