i have thought provoking for you

okay gentlemen and ladies too if you would like to say something as well.....i have been sitting here for about a week now starring at this site trying to figure out if i should just delete my account go back to school and forget this job....or if i should get on here and vent it out and most likely get banned....or if i should just personally tell anyone who has done something hurtful or not acceptable to me or a fellow friend. I talked about this with a few of the gents and also a couple ladies expressing how i was feeling about certain situations.....WITHOUT SHARING ANY INFORMATION THAT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SEEN BY OPPOSITE GENDER!!!!!! so i decided...hey im not a 4.0 student for no reason i am just going to be me and put it to use....so i sat here all night last night reading about all 30 guidelines as well as anything st. christopher has on the page regarding eccie guidelines and came across one thing i really liked...

"ECCIE Staff would like everyone who participates here to enjoy a welcome atmosphere where freedom of expression is placed at the forefront of our values to uphold within the community. The diverse thoughts and opinions expressed directly contribute to membership growth and participation, so above all, ECCIE Staff will do our best to facilitate free-flowing discussion with occasional staff guidance and minimal intervention."


now correct me if I am wrong does it or does it not state that freedom of expression is placed at the forefront of our values to uphold within the community.?........
now i will tell you the first thing that got me on edge on here....and i have seen and brushed off lots of comments and actions on here....and I have attempted several times to keep it together for everyone to get along and i have posted things to make everyone happy and hopefully be nice to eachother. the first thing that really peeved me was a review i received.....i have a ton of reviews i mean not a million but enough....and i know how i do in each one....i don't need a BCD to read to tell me what happened because I WAS THERE!!!!!! I read the part of this certain review that i could see OBVIOUSLLY....and i apologized to this person for what had happened and I dont need to or am allowed to due to eccie guidelines state who or when i am talking about......so i will try to keep it a mystery LOL....but either way I pm'd this person apologizing for what had happened and next thing i know i am getting blamed for seeing the BCD section....which never happened.....guys honestly why would i want to read something that i was there for.......even if someone decides to lie or w/e oh wlel nothing a provider can do..just like a provider could do the same to a client.....but what im wondering is why when all i do is apologize for having a bad day?....i get scolded......and falsely convicted of something. Then after i get in "trouble" i receive a pm saying "i really cant wait to see you again" and "its okay mary things happen" LOL ....okay and still after getting falsely accused i respond with "me too "........what im really trying to say is....i hear everyone complain about how horrible this can be and how people make a big deal out of nothhing ...ect ect......okay well then LETS STOP WITH THE CRUD that doesn't help anything. I am sorry that i rambled about this situation first as well its just it has really been eating away at me.......gentlemen , ladies....plain and simple we are loosing good hobbyist and good providers on this board ( nikki china chloe) these providers are more and more rare on here caused by the bs and constant conflict....yes i understand conflict will happen....and guys understand....not every provider is going to have a 100 percent day everyday......have you ever had a really horrible day that messed you up a little with your flow of life?....if you havet i want to know what perfect world you are all living in.....so please guys and ladies get along....its not that tuff here.......and mods to you....you guys are great and i have 100 percent backed you guys up in conversation and everything else....until this week i just had to sit there and have nothing to say on the topic because of the personal matter i had......i wrote this fast and it is all comming straight from the heart so I am sorry if my bad spelling ect.....i just know if i go back through i may not send this to the board......Now im sure that some of you have some negative feedback for me now...but honestly i really dont care anymore.....i have tried to be me and be outgoing and keep things together and do my part....and i get stepped on..........and im not mad about anything that has happened...all in all more hurt.......so keep it together guys and hopefully i will find it in me to stick around on here...but right now im with nikki "up in the air"........

happy hobbying gentlemen and be safe and FUN

Geez....

...it's getting tougher and tougher to get to know people around here, when they keep getting chased away.

Incredible. Soon we can change the board name to:

Escort Client Community LACKING Information Exchange....



elg.........

but tell me, mary, how do you really feel?

Ok guys don't hate me. (some anyways that is)
Take a break, a day, week, more. You can try just reading, not easy. Easier if you do not log in. Or do not look at the site at all. I have stayed off for almost a week a few times. Its not easy for a postprovider like me but it can be done. Even Eli took a long break from it all before. Give it a try. If you need to do a ad, log in post it log off and walk away. I like your posts, others mmmmmmmm na will not say for others. If you try this I will miss your posts.

Also try talking to a few of the mmmmmmmm careful boy mmmmm female members on this board that have been on the old ASPD, then here. Or even a male you have not meet that has been on the boards a long time.But from reading trust.

We have a mix of folks here. So any thing one likes will be BS to another.

OSD

I have to chime in on this... First of all, that review in question was a GOOD review. When someone puts "yes" under recommendation that means it was GOOD, now I am not a 4.0 student, but I can infer that a recommendation of "yes" means the person in question had a good time!!! The problem here, and unfortunately you started it, is that because of this nonsense a lot of guys are having second thoughts of writing HONEST, THOROUGH, reviews. Because if they are not "GLOWING", than one might feel that they will be blacklisted if that SP breaks rules and gains access to that information. Bottom line is rules were broken, someone was banned (not too hard to figure out who that was), and now all of this leaves a bad taste in my mouth (at least mine). Stuff like this undermines the integrity and usefullness of this board. Just MHO.

Am I the only one that remembers?:

Board traffic to be more accurate………..how do you get it………..do you even understand what it’s value is to the board?
Houston area is (I’m guessing here) ranked 4th in terms of population behind New York, Upstate New York and Los Angeles (it probably is a close call on the Atlanta and Pittsburg areas)…..on this board.

We will leave Dallas Area out of the mix. They are where this board originated and thus will have a home court advantage……for the sake of this observation.

What is the purpose of the board………to find pussy (in whatever form; cheap, expensive, spinner, BBW)………..to get pussy to reveal itself to the members of the board.

To make that happen, you need three types of hobbyists on the board:

The Lurker: Believe it or not, this is the most important guy on the board………I don’t mean the fucktard who only posts stupid questions and ISOs……..I mean the true lurker. This is the guy with a shit load of stuff to lose if he ever gets caught. He never posts on the board. He only comes to the board for entertainment and pussy. He has chosen this board for one of three reasons; he enjoys the hooktard/fucktard threads, he is looking for legitimate intel on providers so he can fuck them…….or both.

The Bro: Now, the Bro is very important to the Lurker. He sees the providers and writes reviews about how he made her cum 14 times……..and those stretch marks were not that bad………and the incall was easy to get to………..half of which is bullshit. But, one important fact is gleaned from the process………..she is legitimate (most of the time). The Bro (typically) is not into the drama and will say so in open forum…..reminding everyone who will listen that this place is about getting laid………..he may or may not be a White Knight for his favorite…………he may or may not be a cock blocker against out of town talent trying to come to his fair city (there are good and bad Bros).

Then there is what I call the Old Timer: Now, most hobbyists make the mistake of thincking that an Old Timer is a Bro who has been in the hobby for a long time……….while it is true that a Bro has to be in the hobby for a long time to be an Old Timer, it is not true that all Bros who have been in the hobby for a long time become Old Timers. The Old Timer does not need the board anymore to get laid…….he is tapping a market that not on the boards or he is known among the providers in a way that transcends the board……….he may not even write reviews anymore………..that does not mean he doesn’t contribute to the board (maybe)……….the Old Timer can usually see a quack review immediately………..an Old Timer is useful in calling out the White Knights and Cock Blockers………he has the board credibility to call out the providers trying to get an advantage over her competition..........which are essential to hobby board.

Once you have identified the three essential elements of hobbyists who make a successful city forum, the providers will come.
Some of them will come with their agendas……….some will come with their pimps………..they will all come with their market strategies……….but, they will come……..and in droves............why, because this is a business to them...........and you don't ignore the source of your business.

A few will come with their drama………the smart business minded provider will know that drama is not her friend and simply post her ads and take the money to the bank.…….some will have an agenda to form the conversation on the board to their hobby perspective………some will write threads about needing an orgy or how important is BBBJ to you. A small amount of that is tolerable as long as they let the thread move away from the AD as it will always do………every thread ends up off topic………that is how a thread dies………..not by some Mod locking the thread……..all he did was pause the conversation………it will come up again and again until it is allowed a natural death.

Finally, there is the 400 lb gorilla in the room, the Mod: A good Mod is rarely seen or heard from in a thread. He knows how to steer a thread back on course with a comment here or there, and he knows to let a threAD die the death of the hijack (sometimes the hijack is your friend)…………..points are a rare thing and the ban is issued by a thousand cuts (1 or 2 points at a time)……….they know how to tell members in PM to ignore a thread if they don’t like it……….not take up their (righteous) cause……..at that point you quit being a Mod and became an advocate and just chose a side.

How does all of this play into “Traffic”…………….When you stifle opposing opinions, you kill traffic………for every agreement to one point of there is an agreement to the opposing opinion. When you kill one side of the conversation, you just lost half of your audience.

Who cares if someone calls someone a hooktard or fucktard………..the audience will decide who they believe.

The bottom line is you (Upstate New York) don’t have the traffic………….if you want it, you have to change the way you do business…………you are doing a disservice to all of those lurkers and providers who need the traffic…………..of course, at the end of the day someone else may decide for you.

Mods come and go…………..Ambassadors are with us forever.

Just the perspective of an Old Timer who has been around you know. Originally Posted by dearhunter

And how's the traffic now?

Am I the only one that remembers?:




And how's the traffic now? Originally Posted by jokacz

It's leaving, Jokacz.

Dearhunter was and is right.

Maybe it's time to go back to lurking......because participation is getting to be a drag........

elg....

Am I the only one that remembers?:




And how's the traffic now? Originally Posted by jokacz

well I still say upstate is not TX

OSD

Original post

"okay gentlemen and ladies too if you would like to say something as well.....i have been sitting here for about a week now starring at this site trying to figure out if i should just delete my account go back to school and forget this job...."

IMHO, if you have the means financially, and the time, get your education.

(((HUG)))
Liz

Sweet, dear Mary.... one call me asap! I don't think I have your right number, we definitely need to talk!

As for your post, I am with you, Nikki, Chloe, China and every other great provider who is coming less and less on here. I rarely post on the co-ed discussions because I have seen people attacked. I believe we all should go back to that golden rule we are taught when we are young... "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" and "treat others like how you would want to be treated".

It is sad that both providers and hobbyist are starting to feel like they shouldn't post or even come on this board. I have met a few great guys but started off just sharing comments back and forth. This board can be a great tool. Based on comments, you can get a feel for if you want to meet the client/provider. Let's hope one day it can be more of a friendly place.

I have met a few great guys but started off just sharing comments back and forth. This board can be a great tool. Based on comments, you can get a feel for if you want to meet the client/provider. Originally Posted by BrookeButtons

Too funny, I was just thinking this exact same thought earlier today when I responded to another thread. A perfect example of how I envision this site to work.

For those that don't know, this is exactly how I met Brooke. We chatted on similar threads, got to know each other by our posts, chatted via PM a few times, then actually got to meet each other.

In similar fashion, this is also how I met China and Mary.

I have to chime in on this... First of all, that review in question was a GOOD review. When someone puts "yes" under recommendation that means it was GOOD, now I am not a 4.0 student, but I can infer that a recommendation of "yes" means the person in question had a good time!!! The problem here, and unfortunately you started it, is that because of this nonsense a lot of guys are having second thoughts of writing HONEST, THOROUGH, reviews. Because if they are not "GLOWING", than one might feel that they will be blacklisted if that SP breaks rules and gains access to that information. Bottom line is rules were broken, someone was banned (not too hard to figure out who that was), and now all of this leaves a bad taste in my mouth (at least mine). Stuff like this undermines the integrity and usefullness of this board. Just MHO. Originally Posted by mps0813

Sweet, dear Mary.... one call me asap! I don't think I have your right number, we definitely need to talk!

As for your post, I am with you, Nikki, Chloe, China and every other great provider who is coming less and less on here. I rarely post on the co-ed discussions because I have seen people attacked. I believe we all should go back to that golden rule we are taught when we are young... "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" and "treat others like how you would want to be treated".

It is sad that both providers and hobbyist are starting to feel like they shouldn't post or even come on this board. I have met a few great guys but started off just sharing comments back and forth. This board can be a great tool. Based on comments, you can get a feel for if you want to meet the client/provider. Let's hope one day it can be more of a friendly place. Originally Posted by BrookeButtons

Too funny, I was just thinking this exact same thought earlier today when I responded to another thread. A perfect example of how I envision this site to work.

For those that don't know, this is exactly how I met Brooke. We chatted on similar threads, got to know each other by our posts, chatted via PM a few times, then actually got to meet each other.

In similar fashion, this is also how I met China and Mary. Originally Posted by Chaz108

All good points. Yet if one was to stick to the golden rule, It would make for a nonworking tool IMHO.

OSD

edit: "one call me asap!" make that a all providers call and make sure to also have providers of this board and the old ASPD.

A provider I know has opened the door for girl/girl P4P. You want me to ask where she puts the ad's for this. She said others on the site also having a slow time of it.

thanks for all your input everyone

I don't blame you, I think I will probably delete my membership and posts to this account, I really don't use it much and haven't since july, but It's more stress than I want, and I get more clients than I can possibly keep up with without it, does anyone know how I can go about deleting my account? Please and thanks.