gfe vs pse

I'm new(ish) to the hobby and this list. I know what the acronyms mean, but what is the real difference? I met with one provider (in my old city) who did gfe that included greek. Is that unusual?

There is no real, drawn definition for PSE. It can go anywhere from more aggressive, porn-style sex, to just additional activities such as COF or greek. And no, it's not unusual at all for a GFE provider to offer greek.

It means whatever the lady who is posting it wants it to mean. Some will post it on their ad, some will not. The only thing in common that it means is more $$.

ditto with Mike......Quote "It means whatever the lady who is posting it wants it to mean".......Most conitate pse as greek/stripper slides/toy play/activities a normal vanilla type girlfriend would not do....

I do not like to "label" MY sessions...I just say "whatever happens,happens...gfe/pse/..it's ALL good"

I've also seen some providers, including some very high end exclusive providers, define/advertise PSE as including BBFS ... but that's not too common. The posters above me have covered the most common meanings and distinctions.

Ultimately, what Dkayz said seems to be the way it goes. Personally, I don't know how a girl can call it GFE if she doesn't do LFK or DFK, but some claim they're still offering GFE.

I've also seen some providers, including some very high end exclusive providers, define/advertise PSE as including BBFS ... but that's not too common. The posters above me have covered the most common meanings and distinctions. Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

HAh. That's funny. SOme providers taking PSE to mean bbfs as well. I guess nowadays there is bbfs in porn. But I agree with all of the above of whatever everybody said. Everybody has pretty much made up whatever they want these acronyms to mean. I personally think of kama sutra positions when PSE is concerned besides greek and CIM/COF/COT. Also I figure it also describes the mood of the session being more heavily based on what you see in porn with her taking you through the motions since she would know what PSE is like better than you? YEah those are thoughts that go through my head. I mostly look for PSE from porn star providers since they know the shit. I have had experiences with these providers. WHat I took from them is that they are so much better at positioning themselves and going from one step to the next making it a more fluid experience. That is in lieu of the above. I'm sure extra stuff could have done but I find myself not truly interested than the usual stuff.

So instead of PSE, I just look for GFE stuff... and when I say GFE I only mean bbbj. Without bbbj... it be no GFE.

What RocketscientistBrainsurgeon alluded to with LFK/DFK would be called RBGFE on myredbook.com Obviously BBBJ is a given in this case. Yeah the guys on that former site were really trying to nail down the providers on their menu. So instead of relying on the provider's definitions. Just look at the reviews to figure out what a GFE/PSE would be really with them.

In short, forgot the jargon. Just look at the reviews. IF you take on a new provider, all bets are off. You won't know what to expect. SHe could provide all of the above but give you such a shitty experience. All the menu items in the world will mean shit if she acts bitchy business-like or a dead-fish-like.

HAh. That's funny. SOme providers taking PSE to mean bbfs as well. I guess nowadays there is bbfs in porn. But I agree with all of the above of whatever everybody said. Everybody has pretty much made up whatever they want these acronyms to mean. I personally think of kama sutra positions when PSE is concerned besides greek and CIM/COF/COT. Also I figure it also describes the mood of the session being more heavily based on what you see in porn with her taking you through the motions since she would know what PSE is like better than you? YEah those are thoughts that go through my head. I mostly look for PSE from porn star providers since they know the shit. I have had experiences with these providers. WHat I took from them is that they are so much better at positioning themselves and going from one step to the next making it a more fluid experience. That is in lieu of the above. I'm sure extra stuff could have done but I find myself not truly interested than the usual stuff.

So instead of PSE, I just look for GFE stuff... and when I say GFE I only mean bbbj. Without bbbj... it be no GFE.

What RocketscientistBrainsurgeon alluded to with LFK/DFK would be called RBGFE on myredbook.com Obviously BBBJ is a given in this case. Yeah the guys on that former site were really trying to nail down the providers on their menu. So instead of relying on the provider's definitions. Just look at the reviews to figure out what a GFE/PSE would be really with them.

In short, forgot the jargon. Just look at the reviews. IF you take on a new provider, all bets are off. You won't know what to expect. SHe could provide all of the above but give you such a shitty experience. All the menu items in the world will mean shit if she acts bitchy business-like or a dead-fish-like. Originally Posted by A2theb2thec

seriously, who WAS this guy? Does not post like a 44 post, 1 review guy. I know I need to read the terms of service, but are new handles the new thing?

HAh. That's funny. SOme providers taking PSE to mean bbfs as well. I guess nowadays there is bbfs in porn. Originally Posted by A2theb2thec

FYI, around 83% of heterosexual porn actors do NOT use condoms on set.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/98423...in-2016-plus-5

That's old data though, and since then, companies that produce popular porn series like Bang Bus, Dancing Bear, Nuru Massage, and Girls Do Porn, have all stopped requiring condoms on set.

As previously stated it means whatever the woman/man wants it to mean. Frankly, I have to ask how many men have ever had a girl friend after reading some reviews.

I look at it this way. I've never had a girl friend ask me to use a condom. Some spit, some didn't. Only one asked to eat it. None would do TUMA or greek or bend over a table or the back of a sofa. Can't even imagine a girl friend more than twenty years younger than me. Drove that home once when I was working several years ago a much younger fellow employee suggested I take her out. Told her "I don't watch the Cartoon Network, can't imagine what we'd ever talk about."

Nope, I don't shell out cashola for a girl friend, I do it to get some as wild and crazy as it can be gotten without fighting my morals. Yes, I have a few, locked up in my safe! and without hurting anyone!!!!

I'm new(ish) to the hobby and this list. I know what the acronyms mean, but what is the real difference? I met with one provider (in my old city) who did gfe that included greek. Is that unusual? Originally Posted by kcfaculty

I should add that sometimes it is rather fun to duel with your morals.

She's too young . . . . . . No she's not!