If a guy "allows" or "sends" or "endures" a lady to be a provider is he automatically a pimp?

If a guy "allows" or "sends" or "endures" a lady to be a provider is he automaticly a pimp?


Normally I wait to weight in but I think I'll start things out.
(Yes this is a continuation of The Truth & A couple of hookers and a Man Whore were sitting in a bar threads!)

I might be the wrong person to ask and or answer this question. Reason being I have a few dollars allowing me the opportunities others might not have. But.... if I cared about a lady... oh hell loved her... would I ALLOW or LET or PROMOTE her being a hooker?

HELL NO!!! There are ladies I care about that I took off the market. (Stingy I know huh... ) Imagine what I might do if I loved them. So... how in the hell can ANY guy who claims he LOVES a lady allow her to work as a hooker! Personally if two people believe this I think they are delusional. I could be wrong... it’s happened before. But I don't thinck so. At least NOT for me!

A mon cher, do not take my debating words as any more than simply that.

It simply isn't his choice. It's all about choice. If a man loved me or liked me in any shape or fashion he would allow me to make my own choices. He may take other precautions to protect me or make sure it is not a choice made out of desperate means but he would still respect me as a person enough to let me make the choice....or let me go if he could not.

Which is probably why I am still (happily) single

Either way if I chose not to do this I would hope my friends supported my choice just as the friends I have now support my choice to be in the "hobby" No one "allows" or "sends" me to do anything.

Now 100 years ago and back... then choices were limited. Did you know the first women allowed to own land were madams and prostitutes? I always felt this hobby was more liberating than hindering. The social stigma to remain monogamous and sexually repetitive in our behaviors is it's own cage. If a married woman wants to partake in hobby on either side I say more power to her. Same as any man.

Now, stop posting thought provoking threads while I am sick! It's unfair to my Dayquil addled brain.

Never have thought I could have a provider as a SO, as it would take up too much of her time fucking other men when she could be fucking me.

As to your pimp question, it would depend if he tired of supporting her.

If a guy "allows" or "sends" or "endures" a lady to be a provider is he automaticly a pimp?
Originally Posted by Still Looking

endures?
so when you see a provider, you are "enduring" her?
I'm not clear what you are trying to say

I'm also unclear on why you think the guy is doing anything?
ie when you say

But.... if I cared about a lady... oh hell loved her... would I ALLOW or LET or PROMOTE her being a hooker?
Originally Posted by Still Looking

what does she want to do?
if she wanted to fuck guys for money, or "spend time with guys for big bucks" and you said, "no you arent doing that!"
then you are in the wrong. she should be allowed to do what she wants.
I was offered cookies today
I'm trying to lose weight, so was that person a horrible person by offering me cookies
I made a choice to say no.
guys/pimps can do whatever they want, but the choice of hooking comes down to the female, it's her body,. her choice.
if she doesnt wanna do it, no one is forcing her.

endures?
so when you see a provider, you are "enduring" her?
I'm not clear what you are trying to say

I'm also unclear on why you think the guy is doing anything?
ie when you say


what does she want to do?
if she wanted to fuck guys for money, or "spend time with guys for big bucks" and you said, "no you arent doing that!"
then you are in the wrong. she should be allowed to do what she wants.
I was offered cookies today
I'm trying to lose weight, so was that person a horrible person by offering me cookies
I made a choice to say no.
guys/pimps can do whatever they want, but the choice of hooking comes down to the female, it's her body,. her choice.
if she doesnt wanna do it, no one is forcing her. Originally Posted by bigcockpussylicker

It's good I got you thincking. See I would NEVER make decisions for anyone I have a realtionship with. (I don't make decisions for friends or my kids either.) I just wouldn't have a realationship with them. My attitude would very simple. You don't need to do this but if you choose to do so I'm gone! Pretty simple really!

Hey honey lets go to Hawaii. I have some really romantic and fun planned. "oh sorry sweetie. Thats so nice of you. But I have a gang ban g scheduled with Emma & Woody. Can we do it another time?" Yeah that will happen!

Does it automatically make him a pimp - no.

Many people have lifestyles that are different than mine, that doesn't make them wrong. For instance, if I was in a serious relationship could I be involved in the swinger lifestyle - no I'm too jealous, I know my emotions would not endure it. Same as having a SO as a provider, I couldn't handle it, other guys can - more power to them.

Maybe I am the "rare" exception....I have been with my SO over 30 years ...high school romance & soulmates for life!
We were swingers "back in our younger years"....and always have had an open relationship...even having had live-in girlfriends several times over the years....and I also have a special "boyfriend" that comes to visit us for mfm fun once in awhile!

he & I both worked hard the early years of our time together....we retired early and live comfortably....he has investments so he has a small income on the side.

I do this to bring extra spending cash to the mix.....and also for the fun times & traveling new places.....I luv shopping & I luv sex.. LOL!!

It was my choice to do this....I made the first decision!! .......PLUS he gets the biggest turn-on by knowing I am having fun & am satisfied in every way possible....we have always viewed sex as natural & meant to be expressed as such in your "attitude of life".......AND we also have an active "personal" sexual life with each other....he is my my best friend and soulmate!

Maybe I am the "rare" exception....I have been with my SO over 30 years ...high school romance & soulmates for life!
We were swingers "back in our younger years"....and always have had an open relationship...even having had live-in girlfriends several times over the years....and I also have a special "boyfriend" that comes to visit us for mfm fun once in awhile!

he & I both worked hard the early years of our time together....we retired early and live comfortably....he has investments so he has a small income on the side.

I do this to bring extra spending cash to the mix.....and also for the fun times & traveling new places.....I luv shopping & I luv sex.. LOL!!

It was my choice to do this....I made the first decision!! .......PLUS he gets the biggest turn-on by knowing I am having fun & am satisfied in every way possible....we have always viewed sex as natural & meant to be expressed as such in your "attitude of life".......AND we also have an active "personal" sexual life with each other....he is my my best friend and soulmate! Originally Posted by DallasRain

Awesome..... #1

Any others out there?

My labador had that kind of a gig going on at one time. me, not so much.

My labador had that kind of a gig going on at one time. me, not so much. Originally Posted by RandB fan

If only we were like dogs... One sniff and off we go!

It's good I got you thincking. See I would NEVER make decisions for anyone I have a realtionship with. (I don't make decisions for friends or my kids either.) I just wouldn't have a realationship with them. My attitude would very simple. You don't need to do this but if you choose to do so I'm gone! Pretty simple really!
] Originally Posted by Still Looking

get me thinking? Nah im just amazed how wrong you sre yet you thunk you are right
You dont make decisions for your kids?
Depends on the choice. But kids are kids and need guidance
You sound like a lousy parent

Get me thinking? Nah im just amazed how wrong you are yet you think you are right.
You don't make decisions for your kids?
Depends on the choices. But kids are kids and need guidance.
You sound like a lousy parent. Originally Posted by bigcockpussylicker

I don't make "life choices" for my kids. Or any one for that matter! And because of that my kids come to me for advise on most anything major going on in thier lives. I know whats right for me and have never claimed it was right for any one else except me. FYI: My kids are gown!

this is a bit of a demographic question for me (having been in the hobby for nearly two decades).......

meaning, gents in the Midwest have a harder time accepting the original question than gents in other parts of our country.

In general, I believe that most men in America would have a hard time with that situation; however, European men would not....

If any client chooses to see a provider for any amount of time a "relationship" will develop...

Ironically, I have found that while I live in a very liberal state, the gents in Northern California would have much more of a difficult time with acceptance than those in So. Cal...

I'd assert that the popular saying 'if you love someone, let them go...' applies in the Midwest and perhaps not as much in SoCal because relationships here tend to be less fluid, coupled with norms of monogamy (typically undertoned in possessive) highlighted by less progressive attitudes toward gender role. Midwesterners tend to hang on to antiquated social mores long after more liberal regions such as SoCal.

That said, a supportive SO who loves her in spite of her decision to escort is fundamentally different from the supported SO who loves her, in whole or in part, due to the benefits her escorting provides him.

Spanish Jewel, spot on with "I believe that most men in America would have a hard time with that situation; however, European men would not...." My time in Europe I found many in the red light district had husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends (some of whom might invite me out with them) etc. Very common.

I guess I'm of the European mindset... I don't have a problem with it, and I don't think its pimping if I'm not part of the business. I'm very open minded and never saw it as much different than swingers (except she got laid a lot more than me). I dated 4 dif escorts in my day, and I sure as hec never saw myself as a pimp. It was their business, and they were involved before I met them. [Side note: I called one of them one day, turned out she was literally "working" when I called, and I actually got turned on. She knew I would which was why she answered. If a guy can't handle that, he is dating the wrong girl].

Here in the states I think there is a very conservative meaning to relationships. People were raised to find their Ken and Barbie dream relationship, and dating an escort is not Ken and Barbie. In Europe I found less of that. They seemed to have (imo) a more realistic idea about human nature.

Just my thoughts...and I'm certain we all have out own opinions on it.