Model in a Porn vs. Prostitution
- grean
- 01-20-2016, 02:28 PM
May be a dumb question.
Why can't both parties sign actor release forms and say they are modeling for porn? Obviously you'd probably have to have a 3rd party there with a camera but....
It probably doesn't work that way. Can anyone explain why not?
If for no other reason when you're taking pix you should always do that to protect the model from unauthorized use and limit it to personal use, which tends to make some people more comfortable, and thus willing to be photographed.
- grean
- 01-20-2016, 02:50 PM
No, I mean why isn't that a legal loop hole to partake in the hobby without fear of LE.
No, I mean why isn't that a legal loop hole to partake in the hobby without fear of LE.
Originally Posted by grean
Do you think the cop would care? Legal loopholes might work in court with a good attorney but you're going to jail if the cop wants you to go. Rarely does the law work like it does on TV.
Do you think the cop would care? Legal loopholes might work in court with a good attorney but you're going to jail if the cop wants you to go. Rarely does the law work like it does on TV.
Originally Posted by SisterTwister
This . . .
- grean
- 01-21-2016, 04:15 PM
Sure, but isn't the adage might beat the RAP but can't beat the ride?
Do we care ultimately what the cop thinks. If it gets tossed that's all that matters, no?
Again, I'm not the first one to have this idea. I don't think it would fly anyway. But why not, is what I'm asking.
My question is who really wants to play games with legal loopholes? If someone still experienced criminalization in the form of being detained and arrested or even temporarily incarcerated, how much of a win would it be if at the end of a possibly traumatic legal ordeal, the judge threw out a "prostitution" charge because a sex worker or a client had cameras, a crew, and model release forms at the time of a session.
Like, I understand what you're getting at. Sometimes I do ask myself why don't I just switch gears and invest in being a porn actress instead of a ho? But, I think the severity of even possibly being arrested in the first placed is being downplayed...
From my amateur understanding of the law, neither party in the sexual acts can be there for pleasure. So that might work if someone else paid both of you to be there, and you were just doing your job, but if you're paying her, then it's a no go.
Do you think the cop would care? Legal loopholes might work in court with a good attorney but you're going to jail if the cop wants you to go. Rarely does the law work like it does on TV.
Originally Posted by SisterTwister
Rare but honest assessment of our Justice system for you and me; key word- good attorney! We can't afford or even hire them. Biggies can break every law with impunity using a good attorney. Having a senior government position helps even more. Wall Street, Unions, Corporations pay the way.
There are only two states where video production is legal, New Hampshire and California. Every else is flying under the radar or pushing the limits. Many of us skirt local laws in the photos and videos we shoot but are always on out toes
Even if it gets tossed, the arrest is still on your record and will follow you around forever. As our lives evolve there are always some things that we would rather leave in the past, kinda hard to do with something like a bust on your resume. If you can get it expunged I understand that may help with private sector background checks, but as I understand it LE will still see it when they check you out. Perhaps someone with a legal background could chime in.
Not to speak for others, but "beating the rap" is the least of my worries. I am pretty sure that a small fine for a misdemeanor would eliminate your legal worries. What will never go away? All of the junk mail from attorneys that will fill your mailbox from the booking sheet, and the arrest record. What will go away? Probably your spouse, most of your business associates and many future employment opportunities. And God forbid you are clergy, work at a school or for the government or are in politics.
- grean
- 01-22-2016, 04:37 PM
Perhaps I'm confused, but isn't a conviction what we want to avoid? If you're not convicted can you not explain away the rest? Your wife is a different story, but.....
I think this is very interesting. A few months ago I bought a porn video from a website (please, try not to act so shocked....). Yesterday I got an email from this site (which by the way has dozens if not hundreds of videos for sale) and was offered the opportunity to create a "personal video" with one of their "stars". No price was mentioned, but "contact for pricing" was included.
It immediately struck me that while I would never want anyone to see that kind of video with me in it, I was looking at the opportunity to "hobby" with one of their stars under the guise of filming a private video.
It seems to me that even a half decent lawyer could get any case brought against me thrown out under the first amendment.