Compensation for Drivng Time

Question for the audience? I know we all hobby different some of us like the incall arrangements, some of us like the outcall arrangements and sometimes its a combo of the two combined. I have come across some ladies in my past that would meet me at a hotel. I paid for the room and their hourly rate. I would bring flowers maybe even a bottle of wine if they weren't clock watchers. That was our agreement. As of late the hourly rate is going up 250 now 300, the 90 minute is 450 with these chicks out of Houston and Dallas and possibly the client still has to get the room. I have made propositions to take care of the room, hourly rate and possible gas money for the trip. Now the ladies want a hourly rate for driving to the meet which I refuse to pay because that is her time. Well by God Ive got to drive an hour in any direction to find a woman willing and many of you do as well. Guess Im asking where does it end? As a semi blue collar worker I DO NOT get paid driving to my job. I don't even get paid for being close. My hourly pay doesn't not begin until I clock in. So I don't know.. Guess Im asking what is fair? I know some of the ladies use the higher hourly rates as a filter to filter the riff raff but in some cases your missing out. Unless its just about the money and the possibility of finding a fat cat with lots of cash and I guess that's what it's all about. From time to time you'll find one that does enjoy spending time with you. Maybe I'm ignorant as to the amount of money that is out there but I would say 85% of us are not money men. Most of us are middle class men that are single, widowed, married to a bitch or just discontent with the life we have. The only pleasure most of us have in life is between a bottle or us being between your legs. So Please give us a break ladies.

I was talking to a mature Playmate out of Dallas that is $300/hr. She is a beauty and in her prime & I am sure she is low volume and not hurting. She promotes herself as being about the connection and chemistry. She wanted an additional $200 for her drive time which would equate to $50 per hour on the road. I politely said no and I might catch her in Dallas some time. I will not now as she proved to me it wasn't about the connection but about the $. Don't get me wrong, I know the $ is the foundation of why all the Playmates are here. But I agree. Some of this is absurd. We simply have to treat it like a NCNS. It is part of this hobby. We simply have to move on to the next possibility.

Yes I suppose so.. I refuse to pay driving time or that 50.00 up charge on an out call. I mean I've surrendered a couple 250 hourly rates because I've felt sorry for the girl but I refuse to be hustled any more. I'm willing to pay 250-300, maybe the room
In certain arrangements or possibly some gas money but that's it.

I encourage her to setup an incall in my area and ask for prebookings. If she and I can agree on a date, then I am a firm prebooked time slot. She can then prebook some other time slots to see how profitable her trip might be. If she doesn't get enough prebookings then she cancels her trip. I can respect her business decision and not hold the cancellation against her as long as I get good notice. Felina is a prime example. Tyler is in her normal rotating route. I have probably seen her 5 times and I bet she has cancelled on me just as many times. But her TCB skills are so good that I do not hold those cancellations against her. The fact that she has LOW DRAMA along with TCB skills that are over the top and then follows it up with some of the best GFE in the hobby, I will continue to see her whenever possible despite her cancellations on me!!

This is a win situation for all involved. I pay INCALL RATES and she gets multiple income streams that could possibly lead to some good regulars in my area.

I once had a lady drive West of ft worth to Tyler for me. We agreed on 2hrs/350 and she got the hotel room. She has a full time job, so we had to coordinate weeks in advance. She stayed almost 4 hrs, then drove home.

I love it when I find a lady like this who doesn't just think $$. They are few and far between

Yes considering this is business.. Your arrangement is fair enough. I know this thread reads like I'm an asshole but I mean how much is an hours worth of sugar really worth? It's obvious it's inflated in the bigger cities, truth is Its worth what your willing to pay! The flip side of that is the one that pays the piper calls the tune. It's just simple as that.

So of course I'm gonna chime in from a ladies side...my own . I do occasionally charge a little more for an outcall if it's more than 30 minutes from me...typically 25-50 more to cover gas and a little of my time. This is generally when I'm going to a private residence. If a gent is willing to cover a room charge, I will usually waive that.
But please consider that while your Job begins when you clock in, an escorts time starts when she gets in the car to come to you. This is time during Her Working Hours...just because those hours don't fit the 9-5 doesn't mean she shouldn't be compensated for it. When I travelled for a big box retailer And for the smaller franchise company I worked for, my travel time Out of my Normal Scheduled Hours was compensated by mileage pay, hotel and meal reimbursement.

Just trying to give a different perspective while still respecting yours

Ok so lets work the math Room 80-150$. Hourly rate 250-300. Driving time 250-300 with a 50.00 outcall charge. I just don't see where those numbers are practical at somewhere in the 700-750 range for a cup of sugar that may or may not last 20-30 minutes in a 1 hour time frame. It takes 10 to 15 minutes to settle in and get acquainted, 20-40 minutes worth of play time and then shes pushing you out the door. Very few ladies are up to a MSOG in a 1hr time frame and not really into it in that 90min. I feel at the rate of 300-400 an hour a lady is compensated very well for her time. I mean that's more than most her clients make in a 8 or 12 hour period. Actually that's lawyer, doctor money. All the ladies are like be respectful of our time.. I don't think yall understand just how much effort and time some of us put into a meeting for most of you to push us out the door. Some of us put just as much effort into meeting for a session as some of you do sometimes I think more. I respect your perspective and I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just think some of these charges have gotten out of hand but like I said its worth what someone is willing to pay. If the client is willing to pay you for it. Take his money..

MajicPlayground ... What makes you an authority and think you can speak for the ladies side?

Ok, now that I have everyone's attention. Majic knows I am pulling her sting. She gets my sorted sense of humor. Of those that I respect here in our hobby, there are few that I respect more than Majic.

I feel there isn't a solid answer to this. There are all types of guys. The Playmates spend most of their time fearing what might walk through the door. This leads me to believe that a majority of guys out there are gross with poor hygiene. I do not fall in that category. I am generally prepped for a date. I am shaved and fairly clean. I also ALWAYS take a shower before and after a date. For those that do not know DrinkinDreamin, he is probably a rarity. He really prepares for a date. He gets drinks, flowers, a card. My guess is that he might change his clothing several times before leaving the house to make sure he looks his absolute best. So please understand his angle when he talks about his prep time. So I can certainly understand his point of view. The $ figures he uses are general prices. Sometimes, those figures will be higher or lower depending on the Playmate and distance.

To Majic's point, time is worth something. She uses several examples of jobs that paid her when she got in her car to leave her house. I do not know this for a fact but I would imagine home health care nurses are paid for their travel time to take care of patients. If they aren't​ paid by the hour, they are at least compensated for travel expenses. There are lots of examples of jobs that pay for travel time. However, there are just as many jobs that do not pay for travel time.

I think Majic mentioned her willingness to only ask for minimal expenses to be covered. Rumor has it that she isn't a clock watcher and has allowed times to go over on visits. She definitely wants you to feel like you got your $ worth.

I think DrinkinDreamin mentioned that he is willing to cover incall cost and maybe fuel cost. I am sure that might also depend on what the initial investment is for the chosen Playmate? For example, I know I am willing to help more to cover extra expenses when the chosen Playmate is $200/hour than I am when she is $400/hour. To DrinkinDreamin's point, there is only so much a guy is willing to pay for a pop.

It is going to come down to a case by case basis. Each guy and girl has what they are willing to do for a date to happen. In my previous post on this thread, I felt her request was unreasonable. I have had other Playmates in that same price range come see me if I would simply cover incall cost.

It comes back to a Playmate has to live in her own skin. We can't tell her what to charge per hour or for travel expenses. But we can chose to not accept those prices. I joined the hobby wanting to spend time with and sample every woman that I was visually and intellectually attracted too. I have quickly learned that is going to be impossible to do. There are just too many and my pockets aren't deep enough. So just be happy with the time you do get with the ones who you do reach a reasonable agreement with.

I once had a lady drive West of ft worth to Tyler for me. We agreed on 2hrs/350 and she got the hotel room. She has a full time job, so we had to coordinate weeks in advance. She stayed almost 4 hrs, then drove home.

I love it when I find a lady like this who doesn't just think $$. They are few and far between Originally Posted by mrredcat43

Very much agreed. I never ask for a discount or ask for time to go over. But when it happens due to the Playmates request ... WOW!! Most of us guys have had the Playmate who reduces their normal rate for you because she enjoys you. That means a lot to us. But to have the Playmate who asked you to not schedule anything after the hour you are paying for because she wants to enjoy more time with you ... WOW!! That is when it is truly about some sexual chemistry and less about the $.

MajicPlayground ... What makes you an authority and think you can speak for the ladies side?

Ok, now that I have everyone's attention. Majic knows I am pulling her sting. She gets my sorted sense of humor. Of those that I respect here in our hobby, there are few that I respect more than Majic.

I feel there isn't a solid answer to this. There are all types of guys. The Playmates spend most of their time fearing what might walk through the door. This leads me to believe that a majority of guys out there are gross with poor hygiene. I do not fall in that category. I am generally prepped for a date. I am shaved and fairly clean. I also ALWAYS take a shower before and after a date. For those that do not know DrinkinDreamin, he is probably a rarity. He really prepares for a date. He gets drinks, flowers, a card. My guess is that he might change his clothing several times before leaving the house to make sure he looks his absolute best. So please understand his angle when he talks about his prep time. So I can certainly understand his point of view. The $ figures he uses are general prices. Sometimes, those figures will be higher or lower depending on the Playmate and distance.

To Majic's point, time is worth something. She uses several examples of jobs that paid her when she got in her car to leave her house. I do not know this for a fact but I would imagine home health care nurses are paid for their travel time to take care of patients. If they aren't​ paid by the hour, they are at least compensated for travel expenses. There are lots of examples of jobs that pay for travel time. However, there are just as many jobs that do not pay for travel time.

I think Majic mentioned her willingness to only ask for minimal expenses to be covered. Rumor has it that she isn't a clock watcher and has allowed times to go over on visits. She definitely wants you to feel like you got your $ worth.

I think DrinkinDreamin mentioned that he is willing to cover incall cost and maybe fuel cost. I am sure that might also depend on what the initial investment is for the chosen Playmate? For example, I know I am willing to help more to cover extra expenses when the chosen Playmate is $200/hour than I am when she is $400/hour. To DrinkinDreamin's point, there is only so much a guy is willing to pay for a pop.

It is going to come down to a case by case basis. Each guy and girl has what they are willing to do for a date to happen. In my previous post on this thread, I felt her request was unreasonable. I have had other Playmates in that same price range come see me if I would simply cover incall cost.

It comes back to a Playmate has to live in her own skin. We can't tell her what to charge per hour or for travel expenses. But we can chose to not accept those prices. I joined the hobby wanting to spend time with and sample every woman that I was visually and intellectually attracted too. I have quickly learned that is going to be impossible to do. There are just too many and my pockets aren't deep enough. So just be happy with the time you do get with the ones who you do reach a reasonable agreement with. Originally Posted by EastTexasGrown

Thanks that was my thoughts exactly and you described my OCD nature to an accurate description other than the changing of clothes. If I find a lady I like I try to treat her as I would an everyday girlfriend. What we do is what it is but we all like to feel special. I understand the ladies have expenses I'm just asking that the traveling ladies take into consideration what you make in Dallas or Houston is NOT the same market in Shreveport. Also
If your trying to hobby in a rural area and have somebody meet you somewhere a lot of prep on both sides goes into that meet. I'm
Just asking for a lil compromise.

So of course I'm gonna chime in from a ladies side...my own . I do occasionally charge a little more for an outcall if it's more than 30 minutes from me...typically 25-50 more to cover gas and a little of my time. This is generally when I'm going to a private residence. If a gent is willing to cover a room charge, I will usually waive that.
But please consider that while your Job begins when you clock in, an escorts time starts when she gets in the car to come to you. This is time during Her Working Hours...just because those hours don't fit the 9-5 doesn't mean she shouldn't be compensated for it. When I travelled for a big box retailer And for the smaller franchise company I worked for, my travel time Out of my Normal Scheduled Hours was compensated by mileage pay, hotel and meal reimbursement.

Just trying to give a different perspective while still respecting yours Originally Posted by MajicPlayground

Yes definitely!! I would ask more if I had to drive far. Even tho it's hard for me to travel. I wish I could!!If was a beach close by I hate driving alot lol since getting rear ended 5 years ago bad and NOT in a good way!! . But when I do outcall I take taxi cause I'm a wino. Lmaooo

This is why I deal with mostly Asian Escorts. There rates varies, between $140 to $200 tops. Some are independent while other are agencies. The both are almost the same when comes to out calls. As long you are within 45 min there is no extra charge. Sometimes they will give you, ideas on their area in case you what to get a hotel in their area. Now anything past that could 50 to 100 extra for travel that I have experience.

Example on one of my experience:

I had to travel to Palacios, Texas.

After we talked and discuss my location and her service fee and etc. We agree to 160hr for her service, plus 100 for travel. She was not a clock watcher. Her goal was all about making sure you feel good and happy. Before, her session she went to restroom and lock her shelf in for about 30 to 45min. Just so she can change in to an outfit and other stuff to herself so she can be sexy and presentable for our time together.FYI she is an independent.

So, MOST (being the key word (not all)) of the American Type Escorts can say anything they want on why for the outrages up charge. Truth, is that more popular they are the more the rate go up. But, then again it also can be this, more time the same john visit her many times. She will start up the rates gradually as long he’s willing to pay. (Guilty as charge my defense is young dumb full of cum)

I have seen one lady on BP used to charge 100hr + Greece 25 extra six 6+ yrs. ago. Now she charge 250hr + 100 Greece due to popularity. There are still some down to earth American type Escorts are reasonable rates.That can offer equal or better service as the high rates.

Do understand, that I’m not try to down any one or up any BS arguments. I’m also a Blue Collar worker Roughneck. I’m just talking from my personal experiences. I can’t be mad at this high rates ladies. They are just trying to hustle on willingness aka weakness. Just like us when we are trying to hustle the boss for extra hours of OT.

Now on that note:

After seeing kiki2012 pictures I already see one of my weakness.

Today I've had some time to think about this post. My views haven't changed a lot but I'd like to issue an apology for my vulgar mouth and the nature of this post in general. I had no right to question what you charge for your time. You made that choice from a position in your life, possibly out of necessity and many other factors we as clients may not know. I've often questioned my role in the hobby and I've felt very guilty at times. Thinking I used somebody, I guess you could say she used me, I used her and neither one of us really cared. I've also questioned some of you as to why your in the hobby. In fact its the first question I ask a new lady is why and how did you get involved? Sometimes it was out of necessity of surviving, sometimes its the sex, sometimes its the money and sometimes we just don't have an answer. In most cases of every woman I've ever meet the reasons of getting involved with the hobby was because of negative circumstances that appeared in their life at some point and they needed the money. So it is what it is... Im not sure there is a direct clear answer to any of it. Honestly its the nature of the business. It not exactly on the up and up...So I don't know...

So, I do computer work, and the customer is charged my full rate for my drive time, every minute of it. Simply because when I am in route I can't really help another client. I would imagine it's the same with the ladies. If someone has to drive an hour to you, that is two hours lost, yet they were still dedicated to you. Two hours she wasn't available to make money with anyone else.