Germany trip

I recently returned from a week-long visit to Germany. I thought you might like to hear about my trip.

Monday - Arrived in Berlin and got to my hotel around 3:00. By 4:00 I was at Artemis for my first visit to an FKK. 80€ entry (about $100). As expected I was blown away by the number of women as well as the amenities. Lots of the ladies were sporting big fake tits, as I was warned. However there were so many that there was no problem finding plenty with nice, natural tits. The variety was phenomenal, although there is a standard "type" that is not really my favorite. Tall, thin brunettes are really common. I was looking for short, chubby (not fat, but curvy -- I can't stand seeing a woman's ribs or hip bones) blondes. When I found one, I made my first noob mistake. I chatted her up and she told me all of the nice things that she was willing to do. I thought we had a good rapport, so headed to the room. As soon as we got there she asked for 150€ for 30 minutes. Huh? She explained that all of those things I wanted were extras. Dammit, I knew that I was supposed to negotiate a price before committing. I was mad at myself, so I said no, I just wanted the standard 50€ service. I got a lackluster covered BJ and boring sex. Paid her and decided that I was going to be smarter in the future. Ended up going with two other girls while there -- both of them agreed to BBBJ included in the base rate. 50€ each (around $60 for 30 minutes). Headed back to the hotel around 11:00. Total paid for the day was 230€ (anout $260). That included seven hours in the spa, with jacuzzi, pool, sauna, all-you-can-eat buffet, free soft drinks, and three 30-minute sessions with girls that would be 8s, 9s, and 10s, in any country.

Tuesday - Spent the morning sightseeing and headed to Anni Porsche around 2:00. This is what's known as a "gangbang club". They usually have a 3:1 or 5:1 ratio of guys to girls, and the guys pay a single fee to enter for as long as they like. Paid my 88€ entry, got my towel and took a shower and headed into the main room. Found a small Arab girl fucking a guy on a huge platform with two queen-sized mattresses. Another guy was laying on the mattress on the other side of the platform. As it is a "gangbang club" I was expecting more action with multiple people, but in all my time there I only ever saw girls with one guy at a time. Occasionally a guy would be rubbing her pussy or tits while the girl was blowing a guy, but there was no DP or other MFM action at all. There were two girls there when I arrived, and about six guys. The procedure seemed to be that a guy would lay down in an open spot on the bed, and a girl would eventually start servicing him. Once done she'd either move to another guy or take a break and grab a shower. Hopefully another girl would then start working. There weren't many times when both girls were working. Besides the small Arab girl, the other one was a tall, dark-haired girl with some curves -- she reminded me quite a bit of Gal Godot from the new Wonder Woman movie. Definitely my type, and I managed to get her attention and get a BBBJ and CFS from her. She told me that some guys ask for condoms for BJ, but most of it is BBBJ. FS is all covered. Eventually a third girl did arrive. I left for a while but returned around 8:00. There was an older German woman with big fake tits and lots of tattoos. She came up to me while I was sitting in the dining area and started blowing me in my chair. Then she led me to a massage table where she continued the BJ before slipping on a condom and having me fuck her standing from behind. Good time.

Wednesday - More sightseeing. My plan was to go to Caligula or King George. These are both "all-inclusive" bordellos where your entry fee allows you a certain number of sessions (usually 2-4). At Anni Porsche on Tuesday I met an English monger who said that the girls at the all-inclusives were ugly and awful, and the service was what you'd expect at an all-inclusive place. I still wanted to try one of them, but while I was near Anni Porsche I found a kino (movie theater) named Club 44, so decided to go there first. Paid the 5€ entry and bought a 3€ bottle of water and settled in to watch a movie. The seats were like church pews, very hard and uncomfortable. So much for my fantasy of being in a nice chair watching porn while a German beauty sucked me off. The women there were not very attractive, but eventually I agreed to a BJ from a fat chick with nice big tits. The price was 20€+10€ (about $36 total) for BBBJ/CIM. When I came she just let it all run out all over my dick but she had a handful of paper towels to catch. Still, I was a bit messy and decided to head back to the hotel. Cleaned up and then headed out to King George. When I got there they asked for 100€. I asked about the 49€ advertised on the Web site and they said that was for one girl. At this point I was a little pissed off and decided to skip it. Seems silly now -- if there was a place here where I could fuck a girl for US$60 I'd visit all the time. But at the time it felt like a ripoff and I decided to just bail and save my energy for Frankfurt.

Thursday - ICE train to Frankfurt, arrived at 4:00 and picked up my rental car. Headed to my hotel to drop off luggage and then went directly to Oase, one of the biggest FKKs in Germany, arriving around 6:00. It wasn't as fancy as Artemis, but still nice enough to justify the (70€) entry fee. The girls actually seemed more "sharky" than at Artemis, and I had to constantly tell girls that I wasn't interested. I started chatting with a Spanish girl. Her English was pretty good, but I was enjoying practicing my Spanish, which she seemed to enjoy. I thought we had a really good rapport going, so invited her to the room without firmly negotiating prices and service -- serious mistake, again. Really guys, no matter how much she seems to like you, no matter how much it "spoils the mood", ALWAYS ask her exactly how much it will cost for her to do what you want. Otherwise you risk paying her for time you won't enjoy. When we got to the room, immediately started with a hand job and put a condom on and started blowing me before she even asked how much time I wanted or what I wanted to do. After a few seconds of blowing me, she started in with the business. I asked for BBBJ and she claimed that BBBJ was against the law and would not even consider BJ without the condom. She kept citing the law and how much of a fine there was. She started pushing for an hour and all kinds of extras. When she asked for 50€ extra for CIM I asked her why that wasn't against the law and she got all defensive. I said no to everything, just basic service, and she got all pissed and started a shitty blowjob. It was a bad mood in the room, and after a few minutes I just decided to admit defeat and call it off. I should have complained to management, but in the end I just said "fuck it" and gave her the 50€. She walked off without a word. Luckily I did manage to salvage the night, with two other very nice girls. Both of them confirmed BBBJ with no extra charges and the sex was great. With the blown session it was 220€ (about $250).

Friday - Drove to Cologne for sightseeing. Ended up going to Pascha just to see it. Was really disappointed. Seven floors of prostitutes, largest brothel in Europe? On each floor I saw maybe 3-4 girls. I thought that at 5:00 on a Friday it would be busier, with guys getting off work and stopping in for a quickie before heading home. Chatted up one girl and asked her if BBBJ was available. She said she couldn't discuss it in the hall because of "cameras and microphones" and that I should come in. Once inside the room she tried to get me undressed and committed, but I stood firm and asked about the BBBJ. She said it was an upcharge, so I left. Went to a different floor and found a nice curvy German girl who happily sucked me off without a condom, followed by CFS for 50€. Left Pascha around 7:00 and decided I'd rather go out for a nice dinner than spend more time at an FKK. So despite plans to visit some of the smaller FKKs like Samya or Bernd's or Finca, none of them were in the cards.

Saturday - Sightseeing in Frankfurt during the day, including a trip through the Red Light District, then headed to Dietzenbach, a small club known for no upselling and no pressure. This place was the holy grail for me. Easily my favorite place for sex in the whole trip. There were no amenities to be had, and the "food" was pitiful. The place is a single big room with 10-12 couches. The girls each sit on a couch, and the guys have to approach them. I never saw a girl approach a guy. This is awesome, as I hate saying no to a girl. However it does mean that if you DO approach a girl, it is awkward to then turn her down, as you then have to go sit down on a couch a few feet away. LOL. Almost none of the girls I met spoke much English, but that's OK. This isn't a place to relax and chat up the girls. Also, none of these girls were conventionally attractive enough to work at the big FKKs. They were beautiful enough, and very friendly, but 6s and 7s, rather than 8s-10s. I ended up taking three girls to the rooms. Half hour each time, so 40€, although one time I did give the last girl 50€ after she was very patient and managed to coax out my third pop. All three offered BBBJ with no issues. I was there for 5 hours. Spent 30€ entry, 130€ for three pops. If there was a place where I could fuck three hot girls bareback for under US$200, I'd be there every week. It was still early when I left, so walked through the RLD to see it at night. Pretty impressive number of brothels and nightclubs -- had to fight off some of the touts, who were really aggressive. Didn't visit any.

Sunday - As much as I wanted to go back to Dietz, I decided that I had to see Sharks -- another of the big well-known FKKs -- before I left. Although it was discount day, I didn't make it there in time and paid full price (70€). It was a great property and the food was the best of all three big FKKs (Artemis, Oase, Sharks). The girls were probably the most beautiful of all of the clubs as well, although it's hard to make that kind fo comparison. They weren't as aggressive as at Oase. I ended up going with a blonde Polish girl who said no problem to my request for BBBJ at the base 30-minute rate (50€). She was very nice and I enjoyed my time with her. While there I ran into another ECCIE poster, you all would recognize his name. I was telling him about Dietzenbach, and we talked each other into bailing on Sharks and driving to Dietz. Got there after 8:00 so paid only 15€. We both had a great time there. While most of the girls were very passive, just sitting and waiting for a guy to approach, one girl was up in the lobby area dancing to the music. She was a raven-haired beauty with big natural tits and a nice big ass. She also spoke good English and we hit it off right away. Took her to the room and had a great time. BBBJ, no questions asked. Came away from that session with a huge grin on my face. Went out to recharge a bit. About an hour later decided that no one else there was going to do it for me, so took her for another session. I don't normally recover that fast, and after a week of mongering I was pretty much dry at this point. She worked really hard with her mouth and pussy doing all they could to get me off. She even licked my balls and played with my ass but it wasn't gonna happen. I still enjoyed the time and she was super sweet and attentive, so no complaints from me. left before they closed and dropped my buddy off at his hotel before heading back to mine and packing for the trip home. Spent 120€ ($150) at Sharks for one 30-minute session, and 105€ ($125) for two sessions at Dietz. This would be my ideal day. Spend 6-8 hours relaxing at the spa at Sharks with food and drinks and pool and sauna and one or maybe two sessions with super hot girls, followed up by a few hours at Dietzenbach for 2-3 sessions with less attractive but much more friendly and amenable girls.

All-in-all, Germany was a monger's paradise. I was a bit nervous because in July, a new law went into effect requiring condoms for all paid sexual interactions, including oral. Since there's no way to enforce a law like that I didn't think it would have much effect, but people on the boards were very pessimistic. They said that Germans were very law-abiding, and the clubs were kicking out girls who didn't comply. Many of the posters were claiming that no BBBJs were available at any of the clubs, while others accused them of lying to protect the girls or scare off tourists. When a guy did post that he got BBBJ, some posters jumped down his throat and claimed that he was trying to get the girls in trouble (the same thing happened to me after I posted this on another board). I did run into a few women who refused BBBJ -- citing the law -- but most of them were just trying to upsell. Every one who I pushed about BBBJ did offer to do it, for an extra 50€. But most of the girls did it as a matter of course, for no extra, once they knew it was a dealbreaker. They know that there's no way to prove if a condom was used, so the law is toothless.

I was also worried because in Frankfurt there was a huge car show going on. It occurs every two years and over a million visitors come to Frankfurt over three weeks. The hotels were all booked, and the brothels staffed many extra girls in preparation. I was worried that there would be hundreds of guys in the clubs and that they would be total sausage fests. Maybe I was there too early, but there weren't anywhere near as many men as I expected. At all three of the big FKKs there were more women than men. Artemis had 70 women, and Oase and Sharks each had more than 100 on the floor. It was literally a target-rish environment. There were women for any guy, whether you like the big fake boobs, or small spinners, or tall thin models, or whatever. Every guy needs to visit one of the big FKKs at least once.

My next trip, though, will focus on the smaller, more personal FKKs and other kinds of sex clubs like Dietzenbach. It was amazing.

Absolutely fascinating. Seriously. Thanks for the thorough reviews.

Next time you should go to freudenhaus.de used to be called pauschaclub. You could go in there and pay 120 euro and have sex all day with beautiful girl and they always do bbbj no extra for that. I plan on going back, it is home for me anyway.

But i was checking the website and it look like they change some things.

thanks for sharing

Great read Q. And we think Texas is an adult Disneyland.

I love FKK clubs. Reasonable prices, tons of gorgeous ladies and relaxing amenities. If you go in with the attitude the Europeans have, which is to enjoy a relaxing experience and get to bang hot chicks when you feel like it, it's a little slice of heaven.

It would be awesome to go with a buddy. I think there are companies that arrange trips to the clubs, but not my thing.

Glad you got to add Germany to your long list KCQ��

So I understand that you would love to get that over here but at the same time..you said most of the girls were overweight or unattractive well thats what happens when a gent wants to spend $60 for 30 mins...

So I understand that you would love to get that over here but at the same time..you said most of the girls were overweight or unattractive well thats what happens when a gent wants to spend $60 for 30 mins... Originally Posted by Nikkilove91

You didn't read it in full, that was at a couple of the places. Several of the others all of the girls were 8s to 10s.

Anyway, thanks for the read, I would have needed a hospital stay for a few days after that to rehydrate.

You didn't read it in full, that was at a couple of the places. Several of the others all of the girls were 8s to 10s.

Anyway, thanks for the read, I would have needed a hospital stay for a few days after that to rehydrate. Originally Posted by ScubaBad

I actually did read in full and the first 3 girls were 8 9 or 10s then he didnt find anyone he was completely satisfied with until the end. Which is why i said if you are only looking to find $60 sessions the women are not going to be the best. You cant have a "10" woman expecting to get $60 it isnt going to happen here.

So I understand that you would love to get that over here but at the same time..you said most of the girls were overweight or unattractive well thats what happens when a gent wants to spend $60 for 30 mins... Originally Posted by Nikkilove91

One thing I noticed when I went to the web sites for each of these clubs: not a single lady had tatts, or at least not I didn't notice any on the web sites.

Dang thats weird...Maybe its considered not sexy or something over there

Damn, must visit Germany.

I actually did read in full and the first 3 girls were 8 9 or 10s then he didnt find anyone he was completely satisfied with until the end. Which is why i said if you are only looking to find $60 sessions the women are not going to be the best. Originally Posted by Nikkilove91

The FKK clubs had gorgeous women, absolute knockouts, what any guy would call 8s, 9s, 10s. And the half-hour rate was 50€ or 60€ (Berlin was the slightly higher price). Of course the girls are going to ask for an hour session or for upsells like CIM or DATY or DFK. That's not a problem at all. If you are a basic kind of guy you can go there and take the standard service. Fifty euros is about $60. Sixty Euros is about $72 (as of this writing).

Yes, you pay an additional entry fee of 50-80 euros ($60-$100) but that covers the rooms, plus all of the amenities for the full day - pool, jacuzzi, sauna, all-you-can-eat buffet, and soft drinks.

My favorite club had women who weren't quite as attractive. Maybe they were a bit chubbier than allowed, or were a bit older than 30, or had kids and showed it. But I liked it better because they were less pushy, had a much better attitude, didn't haggle for the prices or try to upsell you, and it was all for only 40€ (less than $50).

Also, there were about a hundred brothels in Frankfurt alone where you could go in without any cover charge and pick out a gorgeous girl for a base 50€/30 minute session. Even if you upgraded to an hour for 100€, that's $120 and quite a bargain.

You cant have a "10" woman expecting to get $60 it isnt going to happen here. Originally Posted by Nikkilove91

Of course not. Because over here it is illegal and stigmatized. They also have a ready source of cheap labor, as girls from Romania and Hungary and other Eastern European EU countries can easily come to Germany and work.

But the price is not the reason to go over there. If you are already in Germany, it's a great thing to do. But it doesn't amortize out very well if it is a dedicated trip. Say you go for a week and fuck three girls per day (21 total). Air fare is $800. Hotel and incidentals for a week is $500 minimum. Car rental + fuel (expensive!) would be $300. Daily entry to the clubs $500. So with a $2100 overhead, there is a $100 surcharge every time you have sex. That brings the average cost per fuck up to US levels.

One thing I noticed when I went to the web sites for each of these clubs: not a single lady had tatts, or at least not I didn't notice any on the web sites. Originally Posted by JRLawrence

They airbrush out the tattoos both to improve the appearance and to protect the girls' privacy. LOTS of girls over there had tattoos. Maybe not as many as over here, but there were quite a few.

Next time you should go to freudenhaus.de used to be called pauschaclub. You could go in there and pay 120 euro and have sex all day with beautiful girl and they always do bbbj no extra for that. I plan on going back, it is home for me anyway. Originally Posted by Firefox1

Freudenhaus is one of the lower end clubs, like the one I described called Dietzenbach. There are many of them in the North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW) area. Dietz is the only one in the Frankfurt area.

They are characterized by being smaller and having less amenities and less attractive girls, but also being cheaper and usually more permissive.

Pauschalclub is the German term for all-inclusive places like you describe, also called "partytreff". Places like Tref-188 offer a flat fee for all the sex you want (although most of them have scaling rates based on the number of times you plan to fuck). At Treff-188 a "full day" pass costs 120€ ($145) and you get 8 coins to give to girls. Each coin is good for 30 minutes, or you can give extra coins to girls for longer time or better service. A girl makes about 10€ ($12) for a coin, so they are really hoping that you will tip them for better service, either with another coin or just cash. I didn't go to any (I described skipping my one chance in Berlin at King George), but since the BBBJ law I'd be surprised if the girls did BBBJ without asking for a tip.