The pinch part 2

DFWClubgoer's Avatar
The change in rates is a minimum 20% higher year over year. Much more than the rate of inflation.

Lets use an example from earlier in this thread.

250 hour x 5 clients a week $1250 a week x 52 weeks = $65,000 a year.

Raise your rates to $300 an hour and loose 1 client a week.

300 hour x 4 clients a week $1200 a week x 52 week = $62,400 a year. $2600 less

Go the other way, and lower rates to expand your market by 2 clients a week (conservative estimate)

200 Hour x 7 clients a week $1400 a week x 52 weeks = $72,800 a year.

A $7800.00 raise!

At 2 bills an hour provider’s requests would go through the roof! So double up a couple days a week and only work 4 days a week make the same amount!

Then 52 fewer hotel stays a year would reduce your overhead by at least another $4000.00

52 weeks a year 3 days off a week = 156 days off a year, that’s 22 weeks.

I know there too many variables to make this a sure fire plan.

There will always be a small percentage of clients and providers where money is no issue. For 90% of us where that’s not the case it works.

Try it for a couple of weeks at $200 or $225 your inbox would be full that I can guarantee!
Jules Jaguar's Avatar
Idk why you made a separate thread just to continue to do hooker math

Like I said in that other thread

Unless you are or have been a provider you have no clue what it takes to run this type of business.

You don’t think providers have played around with specials, trial and error ect?

The only thing charging 200/hr vs 250/hr is going to do is change the TYPE of clients that come to see you. No it’s not going to make our phones “ring off the hook” no your inbox won’t be full it absolutely make zero difference in volume. I and other providers can attest to this from personal experience.

Leave the numbers and business side of things to the providers. We got this.
Heres my math.

Last year I spent $200-$300 per week on fun.

something in me just doesnt allow me to go over $250 most of the times. I just cant bring myself to it. I don't know why. So lets say $250 x 45 conservatively i was spending about $11,250 a year

This year, rates are higher. I either Skip, or see a lower dollar girl to get off. So now, I spend $250 x 20 lets say. Thats $5000. I still came as many times, either to red tube, or to some of the girls photos on here that upped their price. I have saved over $5000 a year thanks to the girls who either
A. raised their prices
B. who write me back and say "text me, babe"
or C. don't work at the studios

Thanks Girls!
TheEccie214's Avatar
Pimp Duce.
goodolboy's Avatar
I can't think of many business's you can start up on such low up front costs, and start out billing $150 a hour or more cash, tax free.
Jules is exactly right....
Grace Preston's Avatar
For the full time ladies with an ounce of sense-- IT IS NOT TAX FREE. Yes, I know there are many ladies who don't pay their taxes. First time they get audited... that'll change.

Also-- sidenote. When I raised my rates, my business increased. For every man who won't go higher than 200-- there are men who won't go below 250 or 300.
Very well said Jules....
Guys, you do you, see who fits into your budget. Quit trying to figure out how we run our businesses. You have NO idea what actually goes into it. Just enjoy the outcome with someone who meets your financial and physical payoffs.
pyramider's Avatar
I can't think of many business's you can start up on such low up front costs, and start out billing $150 a hour or more cash, tax free. Originally Posted by goodolboy
Something you fail to thinck about ... look at yourself in the mirror and you decide how much money would it take to spend naked time with you?


I always get a good chuckle when some fucktard starts trying to figure out the ladies' income, profitability, break even point, etc. Never, I mean never ever do the fucktards consider one point ... if the phone is not ringing there is no chance to earn anything.
TheEccie214's Avatar
The change in rates is a minimum 20% higher year over year. Much more than the rate of inflation.

Lets use an example from earlier in this thread.

250 hour x 5 clients a week $1250 a week x 52 weeks = $65,000 a year.

Raise your rates to $300 an hour and loose 1 client a week.

300 hour x 4 clients a week $1200 a week x 52 week = $62,400 a year. $2600 less

Go the other way, and lower rates to expand your market by 2 clients a week (conservative estimate)

200 Hour x 7 clients a week $1400 a week x 52 weeks = $72,800 a year.

A $7800.00 raise!

At 2 bills an hour provider’s requests would go through the roof! So double up a couple days a week and only work 4 days a week make the same amount!

Then 52 fewer hotel stays a year would reduce your overhead by at least another $4000.00

52 weeks a year 3 days off a week = 156 days off a year, that’s 22 weeks.

I know there too many variables to make this a sure fire plan.

There will always be a small percentage of clients and providers where money is no issue. For 90% of us where that’s not the case it works.

Try it for a couple of weeks at $200 or $225 your inbox would be full that I can guarantee! Originally Posted by DFWClubgoer
What earlier in this thread? It’s the first post.

You’ve been here long enough to know there was no need to start a new thread to continue the crying. Get another job and make more money so you can continue to play or just visit youporn before bed.
guest071618-1's Avatar
The change in rates is a minimum 20% higher year over year. Much more than the rate of inflation.

Lets use an example from earlier in this thread.

250 hour x 5 clients a week $1250 a week x 52 weeks = $65,000 a year.

Raise your rates to $300 an hour and loose 1 client a week.

300 hour x 4 clients a week $1200 a week x 52 week = $62,400 a year. $2600 less

Go the other way, and lower rates to expand your market by 2 clients a week (conservative estimate)

200 Hour x 7 clients a week $1400 a week x 52 weeks = $72,800 a year.

A $7800.00 raise!

At 2 bills an hour provider’s requests would go through the roof! So double up a couple days a week and only work 4 days a week make the same amount!

Then 52 fewer hotel stays a year would reduce your overhead by at least another $4000.00

52 weeks a year 3 days off a week = 156 days off a year, that’s 22 weeks.

I know there too many variables to make this a sure fire plan.

There will always be a small percentage of clients and providers where money is no issue. For 90% of us where that’s not the case it works.

Try it for a couple of weeks at $200 or $225 your inbox would be full that I can guarantee! Originally Posted by DFWClubgoer
Hahaha, I though I was bad trying to figuring out what providers make.... but man,,, you are BAD or have great imagination. Get to know a provider by investing a lot of money then she will tell you... lol

Very well said Jules....
Guys, you do you, see who fits into your budget. Quit trying to figure out how we run our businesses. You have NO idea what actually goes into it. Just enjoy the outcome with someone who meets your financial and physical payoffs. Originally Posted by Kendall4U
I don't think these guys or we are trying to figure out... we are just being a typical hobbyists and being cheap... but in reality, beside incall place rent there are no real high cost expenses being a provider... well box of condoms... look for special on amazon for real good price.... most guys know and providers need to stop exaggerate the expenses or overhead...
Jules Jaguar's Avatar
How about out of pocket std testing every three months, hair, nails, tanning, lingerie, heels, electricity, water bill, trash and sewer, WiFi, refreshments for clients, towels, sheets, mouthwash, soap, body wash, laundry, all the furniture for an Incall, photo shoots, advertising, hobby phone, website, the list can go on and on. All of this is in addition to the expenses we have at home. Yes most smart providers pay taxes too.

Instead of being closed minded about this why not take it as an opportunity to appreciate the hard work that good providers put in to create an awesome experience for you.
Grace Preston's Avatar
Do you think advertising is free??
Hair?
Nails?
Websites?
Photos?
Verification sites?
STD screenings?

Edited to add-- Jules and I had the same idea. I can tell you that I've had months where I've toured the Northeast and spent $1000 JUST on advertising. Not all sites are free.
~Ze~'s Avatar
  • ~Ze~
  • 11-01-2017, 11:10 PM
Don't forget to count shark week in your calculations. Unless OP is saying he doesn't mind redwings. *snort*

Two mortgages/rents, two sets of utilities, furnishing two houses. *sigh* I could break it down to the PENNY on how much it actually costs because I hawk my finances. Mofos here would pass out.

What about other expenses, like chiropractic adjustments, therapy, massages, and things that we need in order to continue to keep working and being healthy providers? Gunna need a lot of that in order to survive the increase in business the OP suggests.

Hell, I don't have kids, unless you count my dog. I don't have a car payment. Negligible debt. I couldn't imagine how someone with kiddos struggles to keep it all balanced in this line of business.

I always love when men tell women how to run THIS business. It has similarities to normal every day coffee shops, but it sure as shit ain't no sbux.
guest071618-1's Avatar
How about out of pocket std testing every three months, hair, nails, tanning, lingerie, heels, electricity, water bill, trash and sewer, WiFi, refreshments for clients, towels, sheets, mouthwash, soap, body wash, laundry, all the furniture for an Incall, photo shoots, advertising, hobby phone, website, the list can go on and on. All of this is in addition to the expenses we have at home. Yes most smart providers pay taxes too.

Instead of being closed minded about this why not take it as an opportunity to appreciate the hard work that good providers put in to create an awesome experience for you. Originally Posted by Jules Jaguar




gave me idea for all tax write-off whenever i travel... my toothbrush, toothpaste, razor, shaving cream, my suites to attend meetings, my shirts, my ties, my underwares, bottle waters, can i write off my walking energy from car to airplane? can i write off my energy to carry my luggage? can i write off energy need to breath?