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I've lurked here for years. I'm and older guy and do not make many dates.
The last one I contacted on ECCIE has moved and no longer has a profile./
I have an extreme reluctance to getting my personal info out. Simply won't take the risk and so have not joined P411. I see that P411 allows you to get on info free with two P411 providers confirmations. How might one go about getting those safely?
Cisco

Maybe try being more active here on the board with making more posts and responding to some... It seems after a while ladies feel more comfortable to see you...

As for the other referral board you mentioned... I find it safer for guys and girls... Because it required a bit more effort and dollars to be apart of, it drew a more desirable type clients as well as providers. They have recently changes up some things and it is not so discrete for us ladies anymore but it is still safer than many other options...

With our Hobby becoming so visible to the world these days and with all the underage crap I am happy to do what ever the boards require of me to prove I am of age and who I say I am... Safety is more important to me than discretion and believe me I have needed my discretion the last 6 months... I have been active since 2002 and I have never had a board I belong to share my info or out me in any way I didn't allow...

Another option... If your really worried about your identity and a girl getting that maybe try getting to know some of the gents... Meet for a drink or lunch... Who really cares if you know one another when you get there... The beauty is then you are able to share your stories and believe me, I am happier taking a referral for a gent with a friend than most ladies...

Meeting one of the guys for a rec is not a thought that would have ever crossed my mind.
Thanks for the response and the idea.
I'm in lower Al and the activity here is not like Huntsville or so it seems from the postings.
Anyone else willing to share thoughts about the "other board"?
I've seen it mentioned specifically on ECCIE several times.
Cisco

There has been some discussion on these boards recently as to whether P411 is worth it to join. Like Heidi has said it mutual to both parties in that it’s more certain that they are there for similar purposes. Your personal info even though given to P411 is only out there once. Some of the ladies there are newbie friendly but then others are not. It seems the talk is now that P411 requires confirmation from two P411 ladies to gain entry, not so for me 10 years ago. Sounds like it’s a like financial credit: you can’t get any until someone is ready to go out on the limb and loan you some. Good luck and always be safe.

Again , I appreciate the reply. However , there has to be an answer. I didn't understand 10 years ago...has 411 been around that long?
And,,are you pretty sure that after signing up you still can't get a date without a recommendation from a 411 member? That would seem to totally defeat the purpose odf 411.
Cisco

P411 has been around for awhile but it has declined a bit and is not what it once was. I find that generally if you find a reputable provider and you're willing to be open with them and have some honest discussion about yourself and you don't mind sharing a little personal information with them typically they will see that you are a decent individual and will generally schedule an appointment with you. I've never been a member there and I have also never had any trouble scheduling an appointment with anyone. Most good providers can get a vibe from you and can tell if you are someone they want to see or are a jerk that they want to take a pass on. MJ

Hate to say it but without a little info you might as well find another hobby to fill your time !!

Get a burner / hobby phone pay with cash and do not link it with any personal shit like Facebook or other social media crap. Only use it for hobby stuff.

I've had a good time with p411 and haven't had any issues especially traveling to an area or with a traveling lady.

But just as others said give a little be open don't be nervous and ask the wrong questions or you won't get a date. If you have seen a few providers reach back out to them to see if they will give you any references for future dates with other providers.

But with hesitation you might just be hindering yourself.

...has 411 been around that long?
Cisco Originally Posted by CiscoKid

P411 has been in operation for nearly 13 years (May 2005), and my agency (now defunct) was in operation for 7 years prior to that. So it's been a wonderful 20 year run, so far.

Here's to another 20! (thank goodness I started young!!)

Always,
Gina

You have received great information from many great folks.
If you decide to jump into the hobby, do your research and take heed of the advice in the Security section: hobby phone paid in cash; hobby e-mail; don't access hobby related stuff at work; JOIN P411. It's well worth the investment - Gina verifies the ladies and does a great job of keeping order in the hobby be ensuring that the ladies are who they say they are and keeps us guys in line. Of course, there are outliers on both sides. It definitely makes it easier to meet great ladies.

Go home CiscoKid, you're not sober.

Again , I appreciate the reply. However , there has to be an answer. I didn't understand 10 years ago...has 411 been around that long?
And,,are you pretty sure that after signing up you still can't get a date without a recommendation from a 411 member? That would seem to totally defeat the purpose odf 411.
Cisco Originally Posted by CiscoKid

If once you get on p411 you will see in the providers info that the will see new clients ( basic with out seeing other p411 providers ) it's because you have to give some detailed info of yourself and or have a few references from known providers here on eccie or if you actually have seen a 411 provider with out using the service and you mention that in your screening.
But again if you feel like that's too much info to be out there then don't do it.
Read what you can in the reviews on bp chicks and post some reviews eventually providers will see that you are somewhat legit and go for a eccie provider that will see a nubi with out a lot of background info and make your establishments that way.
Just a caution as far as bp.... yeah there are prob some diamonds out there but there is a lot more coal to sift through and you never know what might happen.

Again if you feel like you shouldn't or don't want to give out any decent info about yourself you might as well step away from this and continue a vanilla life. But if you want to take a chance please reread all the info above this post that everyone has provided.

Good luck