ASPD and Newbies

First of all just wanted to start our saying how much I miss ASPD, the ladies seemed more willing to please and seemed more accommodating. Prices were fair and things were a lot less complicated. With that being said I want to give a HUGE shoutout to those providers who have kept reasonable rates this whole time. Most are established and they know who they are. Newbies new to eccie charging $300.00 for the hour is just insane especially bc they are newbies, I’ve seen some offer blo n go for $150. I personally have only ever paid $300 for a provider and that was to see Camille fox and anyone who has seen her knows she’s worth 3 bills with those huge tits and big ass and bcd skills, guess what I’m really trying to say is that these newbies out there need to take a page from the more established providers who know how to treat a man and know what prices are reasonable for services provided. Anyone else feel this?

... Anyone else feel this? Originally Posted by Tx4life

No.

Why would you give a rat's ass what someone charges for THEIR service that THEY provide?

If YOU don't want to buy THEIR service, don't. & STFU about it.

ASPD was 8 years ago, prices increase on everything. Rent and hotels are now more expensive. So I understand rate increases. But I'm not paying for a Porter House and getting round steak anymore.

How about a pink filet with a tiny tail on the side..? And it's a special!!
No rape in price... worth every dollar!! Ok I'm working myself up..


I wanted to comment on old aspd days.. I have only been in business for 6 years so that's before my time ..but I noticed when I go back in time reading old reviews on eccie.. and in co-ed section of upstate New York.. I believe the camaraderie was different than it is today there is no long-winded banter ..there is no beating up on other hobbiest.. the providers are "clean" and very professional.. now.. now.. keep in mind I am talking about upstate New York.. I am not taking away from the beautiful providers and the respectful hobbiest..i am just pointing out.. that those were the good old days..so to speak..

When I see post like this, I have to wonder if a hobbyist realizes how much expense an upscale provider incurs. This is not a poor man (or girls) hobby. You gotta pay to play. It cost a provider in a hotel incall about $150 (min) a day to be a decent provider when you factor in hotels, hair, makeup, nails, waxing, tanning, costumes, parking, shoes, condoms, lube, toys, uber/gas,wine/drinks/snacks for client, toiletries for the clients in the incall, etc.
All of the girls rates are listed. Read them and see the ones that fit YOUR budget/don't see that don't. Complaining about rates increasing since 8 years ago and what price a girl puts on HER OWN body and services is both ineffective and quite frankly a HUGE turn off. Just simply don't see them if you don't like their rates. Many women keep their rates high to weed out a certain element of client, just sayin

Just days ago, you were complaining about the ladies not responding to you. I doubt another complaint thread (especially one crying about how providers price their bodies or services) is going to send them running to reply any faster.


I'd hope YOU aren't still working for the wage you were 8 years ago!!

Not to get on sin.di.vine's bad side (although from her pics, there actually doesn't seem to be a bad side), but ASPD suffered from its share of discord and (IMHO) petty backbiting.

I think the best we can do is to avoid contributing to bad feelings on this board. And also to note who, we think, is fueling the rancor. Personally, I discount reviews from guys I've become convinced have issues, and also from some providers on the same grounds.

Willen.. no bad feelings..and thank you for your kind words to me ..��
and Yazmin.. Amen to everything you said..very well spoken..

Hmmm...how interesting. Inflation is such a merciless thing. Kinda like gravity when we all begin to sag here and there. But some of you gents who don't want to, or can't afford to pay certain ladies prices, go get you a nice diseased up street walker. I saw a bumper sticker on a guys pick-up the other day say "I love crackwhores" ijs. Pay for the sex or fetish etc. etc. Or kick rocks motha fucka. The ladies have bills like we do.

I was not an ASPD member, so I cannot comment on differences between the two websites. I would like to make a few observations about some of the OP and other poster’s statements here.

First, trying to tie the increase in provider’s rates to inflation is off base. Based upon the Consumer Price Index the inflation rate from 2010 until the end of 2017 is roughly 13%. I was playing in 2010 and paying a high quality provider $150.00 an hour per session. If a provider tied her rate to the inflation rate the same provider whose rate was $150.00 in 2010 would have a rate today of about $170.00. A far cry from the $300.00 per hour the OP made reference to.

Yazmin’s statement about keeping her rates high to “weed out a certain element of client” is interesting. I agree this is not a poor man’s hobby, but neither is it exclusively a rich man’s hobby, so exactly who is she trying to “weed out”? Is she only referring to the poor unwashed who see no point in paying more for the same service, or even better service, he can get for less? I agree she can set a rate for HER OWN body. I do agree with the OP, though, that the current crop of providers are posting rates that are unreasonable relative to the quality of the services provided. That seems to be an accurate accessment on part of the OP when you consider there are a number of high quality providers who still have their rates set between $200.00 and $250.00 per hour. You have my empathy, Tx4Life, and you need not STFU. I believe these various forums are supposed to be available for an exchange of viewpoints and ideas, so let it out, brother.

I lady making only two appointments a day at 250 an hour taking all weekends off can make up towards 6 figures a year. What exactly are girls spending their money on that requires 300 or more an hour? It's not hotels. There's nothing cheap about 200 to 250 an hour for us guys. Just that 300 or more is very expensive, especially on a weekly basis. 98 percent of the guys can't afford that. Guys incomes haven't changed much either in ten years. So to pay twice as much is a bit rough, can't see girls expenses getting that much higher as those costs haven't changed. That's just talking hourly, we know multi hour sessions and overnights still happen.

Girls can set their rates at whatever they want. Guys are desparate enough to pay it, nothing we can do but maybe skip an appointment or two if we want to see one girl. Only ones this price structure weeds out is more ladies as not enough money to go around on regular basis. I agree with the OP and sex addict here. Like TX, luckily there's a lot of girls that stick to 200 to 250 for the hour. I just stick to what works for myself and budget.

I did not read all the posts.. but is waz an aspd member in dallas ; )

I did not read all the posts.. but is waz an aspd member in dallas ; ) Originally Posted by CashmereLove

Talking about why new girls start at 300 with no experience. From Aspd days a top end girl was about 150 to 200 an hour. Now, rates are twice as high for many (not all) with no extra income for gents in that span. Just another rate thread.

If folks want to comment on aspd whatnot, I have a thread here.

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php...961&highlight=

To the average member, Amber kept a certain level of civility between the providers and hobbyists on ASPD. I am not saying that it did not have its problems, but for the most part. people were civil. Every provider I met on ASPD was exceptional - emotionally mature, respectful, and delivered as advertised and reviewed.

Fast forward to Eccie, where the profit model is based on banner ads and click - throughs, and the current powers that be welcome drama and disrespect, as every time you click on the next page of a urinating match that Amber would have B-slapped into next year with the first post, you are making someone richer. So it's in their interest to foster ill will and pages of flame wars, as they make a lot of money off of it.

It's sad, because I met some truly remarkable providers on ASPD. My last 4 appointments with well known and highly reviewed ECCIE providers all resulted in me going to my MD's office a couple of weeks later for massive doses of antibiotics. And no, I never practice BBFS or BB Greek. I have also booked appointments with providers who were clearly emotionally unstable, either naturally or self-inflicted. Again, I did my research and could not believe that this person I was in a room with was the same person that had pages of glowing reviews on ECCIE.

Newer providers (for the most part) lack TCB skills. Rather than respond to polite inquiries, they blast screen shots of PMs onto Twitter, Instagram and Snapchat faster than an ECCIE monger can write a review! Luckily, I never use my real name in any of my screen names, but it's amazing how many mongers do on social media sites!

I visit Eccie now more out of curiosity or nostalgia - not looking to hook up. When I'm in target acquisition mode, I use TER or MERC.ca (I spend a lot of time in Montreal). Being in a country where the "hobby" is not illegal just changes everything... for the better.

Just my $0.02, for what it's worth.

Finally someone with a brain FINALLY gets what I’m saying, thanks brother I appreciate it Xesaddict

So many of y’all missing the point, thanks for those that share my sediments. Again look around and read the welcome wagon and you will see what I’m talking about. And as for Yazmin you are one of the providers that provides reasonable rates when you run specials and even when you don’t. Not sure why you felt you need to attack me and call me cheap