The Poll Numbers Are Fishy

...Liars use statistics?

I'm seeing "People who want President Trump Impeached" numbers in the 52-53% range by various media polling outlets.

However I'm seeing Trump beating various Dim candidates in key battle ground states in various polls.

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-for-democrats

How? Is CNN/WaPo and other outlets oversampling California when they do a poll? I get it. In order to sell impeachment the Dim media has to set a foundation of believable outrage. The outrage feed back will loop and justify itself.

If things don't realistically pick up for the Dims the effect will be devastating. I don't see how they are getting the whistleblowers name from getting out.

. Sondland changes testimony, admits to quid pro quo with Ukraine

United States Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland walked back his previous claim that there was no quid pro quo agreement between the United States and Ukraine.

Sondland acknowledged in his revised testimony that President Trump withheld U.S. military aid to Ukraine in order to force the Ukrainians into launching an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter. He also requested that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky look into a CrowdStrike conspiracy theory and any Ukrainian involvement in the 2016 presidential election.

But, but, but the transcript .

...Liars use statistics?

I'm seeing "People who want President Trump Impeached" numbers in the 52-53% range by various media polling outlets.

However I'm seeing Trump beating various Dim candidates in key battle ground states in various polls.

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-for-democrats

How? Is CNN/WaPo and other outlets oversampling California when they do a poll? I get it. In order to sell impeachment the Dim media has to set a foundation of believable outrage. The outrage feed back will loop and justify itself.

If things don't realistically pick up for the Dims the effect will be devastating. I don't see how they are getting the whistleblowers name from getting out. Originally Posted by gnadfly

it's already getting out. a few weeks back Yahoo seemed to be blocking any post with a link to reports about Ciaramella from RealClearPolitics or TheHill. in the last few days i've been able to post either link and they stay posted. more than that, i've seen people post Eric Ciaramella's name many times as the whistle blower. it's not an official outing but it's as close as it gets. it fits the known facts of the complaint too. it seems clear it was Vindman who relayed info to Ciaramella.


as i've said before, Schiff can block testimony by Ciaramella in the House but he can't stop McConnell from calling witnesses. both sides know his name. McConnell can refuse to hold a vote unless the original complainant is brought forward to testify. McConnell can also call Ciaramella even if he's not named as the whistle blower, he had access to White House info and left under suspicion of leaking, that makes him a material witness. what happens if he refuses? that makes the Democrats look very bad, worse than they do now. So he shows. Then McConnell asks him under oath "Did you file a complaint?". Game over.


of course the media are going to gin up polls showing a majority of "respondents" favor impeachment. all they have to do is ask two Democrats and one Republican. easy. doesn't mean Schiff .. er shit.


BAHHAAHAA

The design of polls is an art unto itself and political types are pretty good at designing the questions to skew results any which way.

My fav comment is when a poll shows someone a couple percent ahead of someone else. But poll has a 5% error rate. So....
So pollster, are you saying both won? Or both lost? Or you don't really know?

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

pay attention to the last question.

Poll are for idiots to believe in ,,,

Poll are for idiots to believe in ,,, Originally Posted by rexdutchman

polls are manufactured news (fake news) by news media to fill in a slow news day.


problem is nothing in the news is slow nowadays.

The problem is in the MSM there is no opposing view. It's all neverTrumper echo chamber. If you turned on CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS and perused stories from the NYT, WaPo and LA Times you'd think we were in the middle of a depression with sidewalk executions of Antifas by MAGA hat wearers.

The problem is in the MSM there is no opposing view. It's all nevverTrumper echo chamber. If you turned on CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS and perused stories from the NYT, WaPo and LA Times you'd think we were in the middle of a depression with sidewalk executions of Antifas by MAGA hat wearers. Originally Posted by gnadfly

True that! I was waiting in an airport lounge a few days ago where numerous big-screen monitors were displaying CNN. The appearance and apparel worn by a large number of passengers suggested that they hailed from a number of European countries as well as the US. Judging from the chyrons floating across the screen, many must have thought that The Donald will be frog-marched right out of the White House by federal marshals any day now!

Judging from the chyrons floating across the screen, many must have thought that The Donald will be frog-marched right out of the White House by federal marshals any day now! Originally Posted by Ex-CEO

Can you use your powers of perception to tell us if McGhan will testify in the House? Or Senate?

...more than that, i've seen people post Eric Ciaramella's name many times as the whistle blower. it's not an official outing but it's as close as it gets... Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

You mean this guy?

I spotted him in Walmart the other day. I could SMELL the deep state support! (Sniff, sniff)

is Ciaramella the guy Trump jr. outted on Twitter this morning?

is Ciaramella the guy Trump jr. outted on Twitter this morning? Originally Posted by Chung Tran

The Donald and his parrots act as if outing the whistleblower will make what he reported....false. It does not. It has already been established that the est of the story is true.

I'm seeing "People who want President Trump Impeached" numbers in the 52-53% range by various media polling outlets.

However I'm seeing Trump beating various Dim candidates in key battle ground states in various polls.
Originally Posted by gnadfly

gnad there is a distinction between these two questions:

1. Do you want the impeachment process of Trump to continue?

2. Do you want Trump to be removed from office by impeachment?

Many are not lying. They have reading comprehension issues.

And when blended with a failure to perceive subtle nuances within the distinction between the wording as it relates to political & social tactics as the upcoming election approaches the inability to comprehend the meaning of those two questions as it relates to the approaching election .... it appears to be a lie, when in fact it's not.

Based on Trump's "numbers" this time in 2015 in comparison to his today, along with the absolute FAILURE of the SocialistLiberalAntiTrumpers in 2016 and thereafter to: thwart his election, cancel his election, overturn his election, oust him from office, and to interfere with the administrative processes he has placed in motion with extraordinarily positive results .... while defending off almost a daily hailstorm of insulting, degrading, fallacious, spurious, and ridiculous remarks about his character as well as that of his family members ... his numbers look good.

Just look at the fools on here who perceive any little flicker of a spark in the night as a raging, out of control forest fire. Their hair is continuously on fire as the continue their barrage of the ignorant and stupid effort to:

...thwart his election, cancel his election, overturn his election, oust him from office, and to interfere with the administrative processes he has placed in motion with extraordinarily positive results .... while defending off almost a daily hailstorm of insulting, degrading, fallacious, spurious, and ridiculous remarks about his character as well as that of his family members