Incredible!!!

Want to be shocked beyond shocked.

Google " New Way Forward Act " and watch Tucker Carlson's report on the proposed law.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news...nts/vi-BBZMbWX

Open borders101

Makes you want to vote democrat doesn't it. The main stream media will never report this because they know its insane.

I dint watch videos, but here’s a flier by the bills sponsors that show the issues they’re trying to address.

https://chuygarcia.house.gov/sites/c...-formatted.pdf

Why don't you read the bill instead of its biased flyer. I understand that you are quite liberal, but read into the material before coming to conclusions.

Tucker Carlson....now there's a first rate journalist

Why don't you read the bill instead of its biased flyer. I understand that you are quite liberal, but read into the material before coming to conclusions. Originally Posted by Equipeeler55

Ok. I scanned it (without reading all the sections amended). Looks quite reasonable. What has you so exercised?

Referred to the sections: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...bill/5383/text

Its not something that can be "scanned" to understand the detailed changes that are being proposed. This biggest changes come from the amendments/changes to the previously passed acts that are referred to in this bill. For example, repeal of penalties currently in place to deter illegal entry or re entry into the country. Increase the stipulation of deportation of an illegal alien by requiring there was a crime committed requiring a 5 year prison sentence. Even if an illegal alien committed a crime requiring a minimum of 5 year prison term, deportation is up to the discretion of the presiding judge. Also, previously deported individuals would be granted re entry and Homeland Security would have the responsibility of transport of the alien back to the United States. Is that enough to demonstrate the absurdity of this. When things like this are not championed by the Main stream media, read deep and the truth will come to light. They know this is a loser with the American public

Its not something that can be "scanned" to understand the detailed changes that are being proposed. This biggest changes come from the amendments/changes to the previously passed acts that are referred to in this bill. For example, repeal of penalties currently in place to deter illegal entry or re entry into the country. Increase the stipulation of deportation of an illegal alien by requiring there was a crime committed requiring a 5 year prison sentence. Even if an illegal alien committed a crime requiring a minimum of 5 year prison term, deportation is up to the discretion of the presiding judge. Also, previously deported individuals would be granted re entry and Homeland Security would have the responsibility of transport of the alien back to the United States. Is that enough to demonstrate the absurdity of this. When things like this are not championed by the Main stream media, read deep and the truth will come to light. They know this is a loser with the American public Originally Posted by Equipeeler55

None of those propositions is remotely controversial in the progressive community.

Sad but true the "progressive" are a clueless bunch of idiots

RD - +1
Whatever the Fascist DPST's want is always inimical to our country.

Open Borders is an objective of theirs - and it is impossible to run a welfare state with open borders - which is precisely what they want. They are oblivious to the consequences .
Won't get through the Senate, or a veto byTrump.
Same level of idiocy as the Soylent Green New Deal and other DPST legislative initiatives.



This thread might belong in the political forum.

None of those propositions is remotely controversial in the progressive community. Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Absolutely amazing. I wrote out a lengthy response to this but realize that, as a conservative, we are supposed to all bend to the will pf progressives so I deleted it. Discussing why we should not open up all borders and give non citizens more rights than citizens is a complete waste of time and energy. Conservatives are always expected to bend to the will of progressives. Its a sad day in America when its own citizens disavow what our country stands for while taking advantage of what she offers. There are plenty examples of socialism out there, those who like it should move there.

What is a progressive or a conservative or a moderate? If you are for small government, low taxes, pro-choice, pro-LGBT, are you a conservative or progressive or moderate? If you for open borders, are pro-life, pro-2nd admendment (I know such people), are you conservative or progressive or moderate? If the majority of your beliefs are conservative, does a single belief, say pro-choice, get you kicked out of that tribe? Labels are interesting, but too easy-IMHO.

Why would you assume being a conservative means you are against LGBT groups. Common misconception pushed by a rabid media. I have never met a conservative who dislikes a person solely for being gay. On the other hand, I know tons of people who dislike groups (all types of groups) who push their beliefs and agendas on others. If people would just mind their own business and expend their energies to further their wellbeing we would have much fewer problems.

The difference I see between conservatives and progressives is simple. If you evaluate what conservatives fight for are based on current law in the US. The issue progressives push are currently against the law in the US. Such as open borders, wealth confiscation, gun confiscation, etc... We became the nation we are by laws, why should we disregard them.

Where did I "assume" that conservatives are against LGBT groups? Abortion is legal under current law in the US. Therefore, using your logic, conservatives are fighting for abortion. You have me very confused.