What? No liberals discussing the Market rebound today.

Buy stock in toilet paper and hand sanitizer. And buy guns.

i did buy today. in my IRA i had about 21k in my money market to so i added to these two stocks, Kinder Morgan and Valero. to KM about 5,600 to Valero about 4,900. in the time i spoke with my broker to execute these buys both stocks had gone up, one about 3% and the other about 1.5%. so already getting some returns. i also opted to cut a check for my individual wealth account (not a standard broker's account). i decided to write a check for 5k. could have gone as high as 10k but opted not to for several reasons. mainly i want to keep my cash balance high at this time. in my IRA i had already put in my 6,500 individual yearly contribution. so that in part gave me 21k to spend. i did that before all this panic selloff crap happened. just part of my usual routine. any investor knows that 6,500 is a max to an IRA. until i rollover my current 401k i can't put any more cash into my IRA this year. and that 6.500 was saved off, not pulled from savings. i put away 200 every two weeks pay period to fund that without reducing my savings. those are decent with math will know that's only 4,800 over a 12 month time frame. i don't take the difference from savings. i take it from the dividends in the individual account and have my broker move it to my IRA. my individual account does not general a lot of dividends where my IRA does. that account has a deferred annuity, several trust funds and a few stocks. Apple and Brown Foreman. not sure what i'll do with that 5k yet. buy more Apple or Brown Foreman? something new? probably will not add to my annuity it's fine where it is. those trusts? maybe but they and that JNL annuity don't generate dividends. i'd prefer something that does.



now how much was i down during all this panic sell hysterics? in total across my 401k, IRA and investment account .. about 90k. i'm still down about that much but as the markets rally that will return. 90k is about a 20% drop to me. including cash that is. take cash in savings out and it's more like 25% in terms of investments.



at no time did SELL even enter my thinking. in fact BUY did. just waiting for the bottom to hit to do so. last week would have been too early. if fred the friendly did buy last week he missed out on some value. long term it won't matter much but he could have gotten better value by waiting.



i will now wait for FTW=WTF to comment. still waiting for him to explain how Capitalism is responsible for the Fed debt. and for him to tell us ignert posters what part of the debt is actually good ...



BAHHAHHAAAAAA

We have a long way to go, but President Trump and the team he has assembled is showing great expertise and leadership.

That’s what it takes it situations like this. Leadership. As opposed to the pandering bullshit dished out by the Democrats and their lackeys in the MSM.

We have a long way to go, but President Trump and the team he has assembled is showing great expertise and leadership.

That’s what it takes it situations like this. Leadership. As opposed to the pandering bullshit dished out by the Democrats and their lackeys in the MSM. Originally Posted by Jackie S

you mean like Biden making his big address and plagiarizing basically everything Trump's administration had already done and claiming it's what he would have done?


and Pelosi loading up the emergency aid bill with pork barrel crap like government funding for abortion? yeah .. that has everything to do with containing a virus. NOT

The mental midget dims in this forum are the ones who bought all the toilet paper

Bought ExxonMobil and Enterprise Products.

Someone please tell me how having the Fed bailout the market is capitalism

Bought ExxonMobil and Enterprise Products.

Someone please tell me how having the Fed bailout the market is capitalism Originally Posted by WTF

Sounds like a challenge for Wacky. Or Ex-CEO. Or maybe Tiny.

Hey, eccieuser9500! Here's someone who explains, in very simple terms even the most boneheaded progressive can surely grasp, that "You may not like capitalism, and you may not be good at capitalism, but capitalism is good for you!"


https://fee.org/articles/you-may-not...-good-for-you/


So here's a challenge for you, eccieuser9500. Try to make a coherent argument, or at least post a link to an explanation that even the dimmest conservative could understand, showing how socialism "works." (Other than for the authoritarian in charge and his closest cronies and military chiefs, that is.) Originally Posted by Ex-CEO

"Let me just give you relief . . .

. . . so you can keep your lawn green."

Bought ExxonMobil and Enterprise Products.

Someone please tell me how having the Fed bailout the market is capitalism Originally Posted by WTF

Sounds like a challenge for Wacky. Or Ex-CEO. Or maybe Tiny.


"Let me just give you relief . . .

. . . so you can keep your lawn green. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

it isn't. how many times do i have to tell yous two that the Fed Reserve Act of 1913 was the biggest scam ever?















anything else you want to know?




http://www.internallydisplacedpeople...eserve-history


FED, US Corps, American Traitors, Woodrow Wilson And Federal Reserve History


Wilson Born: December 28, 1856
Died: February 3, 1924
Education: Princeton University

Political Party: Democrat



Woodrow Wilson And Federal Reserve History

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property – until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Woodrow Wilson was elected President in 1913, beating incumbent William Howard Taft, who had vowed to veto legislation establishing a central bank. One year earlier, in 1912, Wilson was brought to Democratic Party headquarters by Bernard Baruch, a conspiring banker mogul. Here Wilson agreed to a deal with the devils in exchange for political and financial support from the Rockefeller-Morgan bankers. Wilson swore in secret that if elected President, he would support the banker’s Federal Reserve scam and push for the first ever progressive income tax on the American people.


Eustace Mullins in 1991 in Sandpoint Idaho 1991 on how (the blackmailed) Woodrow Wilson became President.


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Thanks to Wilson the Frankist jewish bankers could found their "Federal Reserve" in 1913, after which they started WWI and the Bolshevik Revolution. Wilson in his The New Freedom: A Call for the Emancipation of the Generous Energies of a People (New York, 1913): "Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere, so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." and "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."


To divide the Republican vote and elect this relatively unknown Wilson, J.P. Morgan and Rockefeller bankers played both sides of the election battle and poured money into the candidacy of Teddy Roosevelt and his Progressive Party to pave the way for Wilson’s ticket to win. These sophisticated political maneuverings were unknown to our great grandparents, but today we are beginning to wake up to the truth.


Once elected, President Wilson obeyed his dark masters and enacted unprecedented changes to our great Constitution. In that single year of 1913, President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act and the Revenue Act of 1913, chaining all future Americans to the dual horrors of the FED and the IRS. In order to make these acts binding and appear legitimate to Americans, President Wilson pushed through congress two Constitutional Amendments: the 16th and 17th Amendments. These two amendments remain in our Constitution like a malignant cancer destroying the once healthy body of our great nation. The year 1913 stands as the year that America changed forever and the seminal year in Federal Reserve history. It is time to repeal these amendments, and right the wrongs that Wilson did to our great nation.


President Wilson knew what he did was wrong. After serving the dark forces, he would later lament in his diary, “I have unwittingly ruined my country.”


Wilson also broke his campaign promises and took America into WW1, and later the failed League of Nations. Wilson shows us a revelation that Americans must guard against elected officials who guide us into unrighteous wars and desire to establish entangling international systems of rules, organizations and government.


Key Quote: “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit… all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world, no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”


________Top 10 FED Stockholders (Banksters)



10 leading stock holders of the Federal Reserve: Note all were Zionists and controlled by foreigners! America has been under the hand of foreigners since 1871 in ABSOLUTE VIOLATION of the 1810 enacted Titles of Nobility Amendment enacted 1819. Violation of TONA was an act of sedition and treason.



1) The Rothschild Family – London
2) The Rothschild Family – Berlin
3) The Lazard Brothers – Paris
4) Israel Seiff – Italy
5) Kuhn-Loeb Company – Germany
6) The Warburgs – Amsterdam
7) The Warburgs – Hamburg
8) Lehman Brothers – New York
9) Goldman & Sachs – New York
10) The Rockefeller Family – New York
It was a shame that he did not practice what he preached.






Woodrow Wilson was elected President in 1913, beating incumbent William Howard Taft, who had vowed to veto legislation establishing a central bank. One year earlier, in 1912, Wilson was brought to Democratic Party headquarters by Bernard Baruch, a conspiring banker mogul. Here Wilson agreed to a deal with the devils in exchange for political and financial support from the Rockefeller-Morgan bankers. Wilson swore in secret that if elected President, he would support the banker’s Federal Reserve scam and push for the first ever progressive income tax on the American people.


To divide the Republican vote and elect this relatively unknown Wilson, J.P. Morgan and Rockefeller bankers played both sides of the election battle and poured money into the candidacy of Teddy Roosevelt and his Progressive Party to pave the way for Wilson’s ticket to win. These sophisticated political maneuverings were unknown to our great grandparents, but today we are beginning to wake up to the truth.


Once elected, President Wilson obeyed his dark masters and enacted unprecedented changes to our great Constitution. In that single year of 1913, President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act and the Revenue Act of 1913, chaining all future Americans to the dual horrors of the FED and the IRS. In order to make these acts binding and appear legitimate to Americans, President Wilson pushed through congress two Constitutional Amendments: the 16th and 17th Amendments. These two amendments remain in our Constitution like a malignant cancer destroying the once healthy body of our great nation. The year 1913 stands as the year that America changed forever and the seminal year in Federal Reserve history. It is time to repeal these amendments, and right the wrongs that Wilson did to our great nation.


President Wilson knew what he did was wrong. After serving the dark forces, he would later lament in his diary, “I have unwittingly ruined my country.”


Wilson also broke his campaign promises and took America into WW1, and later the failed League of Nations. Wilson shows us a revelation that Americans must guard against elected officials who guide us into unrighteous wars and desire to establish entangling international systems of rules, organizations and government.

Key Quote: “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit… all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world, no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”

Did Woodrow Wilson REGRET Handing AMERICA to the BANKSTERS? Yes he did...

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While most would say the Federal Reserve was designed to stabilize the economy and prevent bank failures, more investigation shows that the Fed is a private banking cartel designed to work against the best interests of the American people. Woodrow Wilson was the president that signed the Federal Reserve legislation. Did he regret handing the power to create money to this cartel of banks? Some say he did, for Wilson has been quoted in saying: "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A
great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit. We are
no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by
conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion
and duress of a small group of dominant men." ~ Woodrow Wilson 1919. Is this quote of regret authentic? Join me as I uncover the mystery of this obscure, but critical quote. Find Unconventional Finance on the web:


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Information about "Taxpayers' Message to Congress: Repeal the Federal Reserve Banks: Pandora's Box of Criminal Acts" by Casmir Frank Gierut: http://books.google.com/books/about/T... Woodrow Wilson Presidential Library & Museum: http://WoodrowWilson.org


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Woodrow Wilson and the Balfor Declaration that created Rothschilds Israel. Note ZIONIST engineered WWI and WWII. They engineered bringing America in to the war to further burden their FOREIGN UNITED STATES Corp. with debt so as to bankrupt US Inc., and enslave the nation and the people.



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The Federal Reserve: A century of tyranny

December 24, 2013 Site Staff History 174
Wilson signing the Federal Reserve Act. (Painting by Wilbur G. Kurtz, Sr.)


” It is no coincidence that the century of total war has coincided with the century of central banking.” — Congressman Ron Paul


Aside from the ignorance and apathy of American voters, the biggest enabler of the American police state is the central bank, which provides limitless cash supplies to the government. December 23rd marks the 100th anniversary of this bank, called the Federal Reserve (or “the Fed”). This historic anniversary is no reason to celebrate; rather it is time we reflect on the practically invisible, yet unimaginably devious system which has been robbing Americans for the last century.


The monetary system established under the Federal Reserve enables the government to spend vast amounts of money without directly and immediately imposing the costs on the American people. Rather than being forced to raise taxes for wars, welfare, and other massive spending projects, the government simply directs its central bank to create any amount of new money necessary to sustain the government’s unprecedented levels of growth. When the citizens are forced to pay exorbitant taxation to fund bureaucracies, wars, and forced charity, there would be a lot less tolerance for a government of such massive scope.


The implications of this are only limited by one’s imagination. The U.S. government’s ability to militarize police departments across the country, bail out private corporations, create an unprecedented and ubiquitous spy grid, wage multi-decade intercontinental wars, launch bureaucracy after bureaucracy, and foster widespread citizen dependency is all directly tied to its ability to spend artificially-created money. The police state could not nearly achieve its current size and scope if people were forced to directly and immediately pay for it.

The Federal Reserve traces its roots back to a well-connected U.S. Senator and a secretive meeting of government and banking elites. Senator Nelson Aldrich (R-RI) was the head of the National Monetary Commission, a personal friend of banking titan J.P. Morgan, and was the father-in-law to John D. Rockefeller, Jr., heir to the Standard Oil empire. After introducing a Senate Joint Resolution to establish a national income tax, Aldrich set forth on a quest to establish a central bank in the United States. He spent copious amounts of tax money traveling Europe and conferring with Rothschild bankers and government ministers in developing his strategy, but the final revision of his plan required the expertise of America’s own banking elites. In November 1910, Aldrich assembled a secret meeting with several of his powerful friends. The meeting was disguised as a gentlemen’s duck hunting expedition, set on remote Jekyll Island, which is located off the coast of Georgia.


The Jekyll Island guests included Abram Piatt Andrew, assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury; Henry P. Davison, a business partner of J.P. Morgan’s; Charles D. Norton, president of the First National Bank of New York; Benjamin Strong, another Morgan associate and the head of Bankers Trust; Frank A. Vanderlip, president of the National City Bank; and Paul M. Warburg, a partner in Kuhn, Loeb & Co.


The 1910 Jekyll Island conspirators.



The duck-hunt was, of course, a ruse. The group had no interest in hunting. The island was chosen because it offered seclusion and privacy, free from the prying eyes of journalists.


To avoid identification by the servants, the attendees avoided using their full names and concealed their whereabouts throughout the course of the 9-day conference. The secrecy was necessary to avoid giving the American people the impression that the plan was a concerted effort by special interests to control the monetary system through undemocratic means. The secrecy seemed to matter less after the agenda was fulfilled, and later, some details began to leak. Forbes magazine founder Bertie Charles Forbes described the meeting several years later, although his work was largely ignored or dismissed as preposterous. He wrote:

Picture a party of the nation’s greatest bankers stealing out of New York on a private railroad car under cover of darkness, stealthily riding hundred of miles South, embarking on a mysterious launch, sneaking onto an island deserted by all but a few servants, living there a full week under such rigid secrecy that the names of not one of them was once mentioned, lest the servants learn the identity and disclose to the world this strangest, most secret expedition in the history of American finance. I am not romancing; I am giving to the world, for the first time, the real story of how the famous Aldrich currency report, the foundation of our new currency system, was written… The utmost secrecy was enjoined upon all. The public must not glean a hint of what was to be done. Senator Aldrich notified each one to go quietly into a private car of which the railroad had received orders to draw up on an unfrequented platform. Off the party set. New York’s ubiquitous reporters had been foiled… Nelson (Aldrich) had confided to Henry, Frank, Paul and Piatt that he was to keep them locked up at Jekyll Island, out of the rest of the world, until they had evolved and compiled a scientific currency system for the United States, the real birth of the present Federal Reserve System, the plan done on Jekyll Island in the conference with Paul, Frank and Henry… Warburg is the link that binds the Aldrich system and the present system together. He more than any one man has made the system possible as a working reality.

The meeting was further described to the best of historical knowledge by Ezra Pound to Eustace Mullins in his 1949 work and later reported by G. Edward Griffin in his book . Mullins provided the following insight in Chapter One of his book:

As the most technically proficient of those present, Paul Warburg was charged with doing most of the drafting of the plan. His work would then be discussed and gone over by the rest of the group. Senator Nelson Aldrich was there to see that the completed plan would come out in a form which he could get passed by Congress, and the other bankers were there to include whatever details would be needed to be certain that they got everything they wanted, in a finished draft composed during a onetime stay. After they returned to New York, there could be no second get together to rework their plan. They could not hope to obtain such secrecy for their work on a second journey.

The meeting resulted in draft legislation for the creation of a U.S. central bank, known as the Aldrich Plan. Despite faltering on its first attempt at passage, and despite Aldrich’s departure from office in 1911, most of the plan was incorporated into the 1913 Federal Reserve Act after some compromises were made. On December 23, 1913, President Woodrow Wilson signed the act into law and gave birth to the Fed as we know it today. And for the last century, the country has been held at the mercy of a cabal of international bankers, outside the knowledge of the majority of Americans.


Benjamin Strong, one of the Jekyll Island conspirators, became the first president of the New York Federal Reserve in 1914.


The Federal Reserve Act unconstitutionally relinquished Congress’s role in issuing money and regulating its value. The Fed was granted the power to manipulate interest rates and expand or retract the amount of money in circulation, thereby possessing the ability to manipulate the worth of the U.S. Dollar — which henceforth became known as the Federal Reserve Note.


The Fed “succeeded” where previous attempts to create American central banks had failed. Indeed, this had been a struggle that had been fought over since the country’s birth. President Garfield once made the observation: “It must be realized that whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolutely master of all industry (and) commerce. And when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate.”


Outspoken Federal Reserve opponent Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh said, “This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized….the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill.” After the signing, he noted, “From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.”


This was an important observation. When elite bankers have the power to cause panics, they possess the ability to positively predict market behavior, thereby giving them an accurate forecast into the future. This ability allows the elites to unfairly amass untold fortunes in the stock market while the rest of the country is being blindsided by an artificially caused market crash. The Fed is the ultimate scheme to ensure that the insiders prosper while everyone else suffers perpetual inflation.


A 1912 depiction of the “Aldrich Plan” which was mostly implemented in the Federal Reserve Act.


Lindburgh elaborated on this in his book, Real Needs: “[The Federal Reserve Board] can cause the pendulum of a rising and falling market to swing gently back and forth by slight changes in the discount rate, or cause violent fluctuations by a greater rate variation and in either case it will possess inside information as to financial conditions and advance knowledge of the coming change, either up or down. This is the strangest, most dangerous advantage ever placed in the hands of a special privilege class by any Government that ever existed. The system is private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people’s money. They know in advance when to create panics to their advantage, They also know when to stop panic. Inflation and deflation work equally well for them when they control finance.”


All these predictions came to pass, as the era of unfettered monetary manipulation began. The U.S. Government could now spend money it didn’t have, and get away with it by inflating (devaluing) the currency of the American people. When the United States entered World War I only a few years after the Federal Reserve was founded, the money-changers went to work, and “by 1920 a dollar would buy about half the goods it was capable of purchasing in 1914.” (John P. Koning)

In the early 1920s, “the international bankers were now ready to make a major killing,” stated Gary Allen in his work . “Between 1923 and 1929, the Federal Reserve expanded (inflated) the money supply by sixty-two percent. Much of this new money was used to bid the stock market up to dizzying heights. At the same time that enormous amounts of credit money were being made available, the mass media began to ballyhoo tales of the instant riches to be made in the stock market…The House Hearings on Stabilization of the Purchasing Power of the Dollar disclosed evidence in 1928 that the Federal Reserve Board was working closely with the heads of European central banks. The Committee warned that a major crash had been planned in 1927. At a secret luncheon of the Federal Reserve Board and heads of the European central banks, the committee warned, the international bankers were tightening the noose” [i.e., were planning to raise interest rates].


William Bryan explained what happened next. On October 24, 1929, “…when everything was ready, the New York financiers started calling 24 hour broker call loans. This meant that the stockbrokers and the customers had to dump their stock on the market in order to pay the loans. This naturally collapsed the stock market and brought a banking collapse all over the country because the banks not owned by the oligarchy were heavily involved in broker call claims at this time, and bank runs soon exhausted their coin and currency and they had to close. The Federal Reserve System would not come to their aid…”


Indeed, the scientifically-engineered crash of 1929 was not an accident. Nobel Prize winning economist and Stanford University Professor Milton Friedman explained, “The Federal Reserve definitely caused the great depression by contracting the amount of currency in circulation by one third from 1929 to 1933.”


Over the course of the century, the Federal Reserve has reduced the purchasing power of the U.S. Dollar a breathtaking 98% from its original 1913 value.


I encourage you to read the books cited in this article to understand further the crimes of the Federal Reserve. The Fed is truly one of the most devious plots ever created, and has been enabling theft, war, and big government for 100 years — a century of tyranny.
The decline of the value of U.S. Dollar after the Federal Reserve Act






The Blackmailing Of Woodrow Wilson And The Rise Of Louis Brandeis

All American Presidents come to the office with a past. This was no less true of Woodrow Wilson as it was of Warren Harding, Jack Kennedy, or Bill Clinton. Wilson, like those just mentioned was rumored to have been a womanizer and this womanizing came back to bite him during his Presidency.


Those that put the bite on Wilson came to him through a close knit constituency that had supported Wilson in his candidacy for President. This constituency was the Jewish presence in America. Leading American Industrialists noted this tight knit relationship with the Jewish vote by writing, “The Jews made much of Woodrow Wilson, far too much for his own good. They formed a solid ring around him.” One of those Jewish leaders in Wilson’s inner circle was New York attorney Samuel Untermyer.


This same Untermyer was retained as a lawyer by one of Wilson’s former flames in order to try and discreetly take care of a potential breach of promise action against Wilson by this former Wilson mistress. Untermyer had been a supporter of the Wilson campaign and a contributor to boot. Untermyer came to Wilson hoping that the case could be taken care of discreetly without public embarrassment to the President.


The problem was that Wilson’s former paramour, who had remarried since the previous dalliance, had a step-son whom she was fond of who was in hock to the tune of 40K. The damsel, through Untermyer was hopeful that the President would have access to the funds to help her step-son get out of debt and in return she would surrender Wilson’s steamy love letters, which were now in Untermyer’s possession.


President Wilson conveyed his gratitude that the “lady” in question was trying to discreetly take care of this situation as opposed to going to a Republican lawyer who would make political hay out of Wilson’s indiscretion. Wilson, however had a couple problems. First of all he didn’t have 40 thousand dollars laying around. Secondly, hone didn’t think it wise to publish his need for that money to supporters given the questions that would naturally arise. (We must keep in mind that 40K in the early 20th century was a large sum of money in today dollars.)


Untermyer offered a solution to Wilson that would satisfy all parties. Untermyer offer that,


1.) Untermyer himself would, out of his own pocket, provide the needed 40K
2.) Untermyer assured Wilson that the breach of promise lawsuit would never see the light of day
3.) Untermyer promised Wilson that he would place the love letters in a safe place where no one would ever see them


The only quid pro quo that Untermyer asked was that Wilson would consider Untermyer’s counsel when the next Supreme Court Justice opening required Wilson’s appointment. That vacancy soon did occur and Untermyer suggested that the jurist Louis Brandeis be named the first Jewish Justice to the Supreme court. Untermyer’s suggestion became President Woodrow Wilson’s appointment.


Sources,


Lundberg, Ferdinand, America’s Sixty Families (New York: Vanguard Press, 1937).
Murphy, Bruce Allen. The Brandeis/ Frankfurter Connection.
Viereck, George Sylvester, The Strangest Friendship in History (New York: Liveright, Inc., 1932).
Wise, Jennings, Woodrow Wilson: Disciple of Revolution (New York: Paisley Press, 1938).
Freedman, Benjamin, Facts are Facts
Coleman, John, One World Order

Very well done, sir.

it isn't. how many times do i have to tell yous two that the Fed Reserve Act of 1913 was the biggest scam ever?







anything else you want to know?




http://www.internallydisplacedpeople...eserve-history




Wilson Born: December 28, 1856 Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Yes.

I like the Woody Wilson quote. He and I have an existential connection.

How do you propose (I know this is revisionist history) the opulent few would store and handle their amassing wealth? Their goods. If a private business needs protection from thieves, would, or should, that business pay a tax to have their property protected - i.e. public safety? Uncle LEO.

Should that business expense their own safety? Or leave it to the State or Federal level? Without the creation of the Federal Reserve, this would truly be a Democratic Republic.

We are coming closer in philosophy sir.


I know, I know - whataboutism. Save it.

Very well done, sir.




Yes.

I like the Woody Wilson quote. He and I have an existential connection.

How do you propose (I know this is revisionist history) the opulent few would store and handle their amassing wealth? Their goods. If a private business needs protection from thieves, would, or should, that business pay a tax to have their property protected - i.e. public safety? Uncle LEO.

Should that business expense their own safety? Or leave it to the State or Federal level? Without the creation of the Federal Reserve, this would truly be a Democratic Republic.

We are coming closer in philosophy sir.


I know, I know - whataboutism. Save it.

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

uh .. don't bet on that. socialism is NOT the answer. John Maynard Keynes did advocate a world central bank but NOT what the Fed Reserve is .. a private banking cartel.



remember Keynes was British .. and yes Wikipedia again. find a better source .. if you can.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes





In the General Theory and later, Keynes responded to the socialists who argued, especially during the Great Depression of the 1930s, that capitalism caused war. He argued that if capitalism were managed domestically and internationally (with coordinated international Keynesian policies, an international monetary system that did not pit the interests of countries against one another, and a high degree of freedom of trade), then this system of managed capitalism could promote peace rather than conflict between countries. His plans during World War II for post-war international economic institutions and policies (which contributed to the creation at Bretton Woods of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, and later to the creation of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade and eventually the World Trade Organization) were aimed to give effect to this vision.[48]



Although Keynes has been widely criticized – especially by members of the Chicago school of economics – for advocating irresponsible government spending financed by borrowing, in fact he was a firm believer in balanced budgets and regarded the proposals for programs of public works during the Great Depression as an exceptional measure to meet the needs of exceptional circumstances.[49]



he was wrong about FDR's New Deal. and the UK's own spending. and the above kinda blows up your "Capitalists are War Mongers" theme yeah? Socialists are the totalitarian war mongers who advocate world domination



there is a lot more to read about Keynes. yeah i cherry picked a few highlights, get over it. Keynes has a long and complicated history of economic theory some right, some wrong. the best of it boils down to this ..



"The General Theory argues that demand, not supply, is the key variable governing the overall level of economic activity"


there is a lot more to it than that .. but if there is demand for it, people will buy it and a company that can produce it will prosper.

uh .. don't bet on that. socialism is NOT the answer. John Maynard Keynes did advocate a world central bank but NOT what the Fed Reserve is .. a private banking cartel.



remember Keynes was British .. and yes Wikipedia again. find a better source .. if you can.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes





In the General Theory and later, Keynes responded to the socialists who argued, especially during the Great Depression of the 1930s, that capitalism caused war. He argued that if capitalism were managed domestically and internationally (with coordinated international Keynesian policies, an international monetary system that did not pit the interests of countries against one another, and a high degree of freedom of trade), then this system of managed capitalism could promote peace rather than conflict between countries. His plans during World War II for post-war international economic institutions and policies (which contributed to the creation at Bretton Woods of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, and later to the creation of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade and eventually the World Trade Organization) were aimed to give effect to this vision.[48]



Although Keynes has been widely criticized – especially by members of the Chicago school of economics – for advocating irresponsible government spending financed by borrowing, in fact he was a firm believer in balanced budgets and regarded the proposals for programs of public works during the Great Depression as an exceptional measure to meet the needs of exceptional circumstances.[49]



he was wrong about FDR's New Deal. and the UK's own spending. and the above kinda blows up your "Capitalists are War Mongers" theme yeah? Socialists are the totalitarian war mongers who advocate world domination



there is a lot more to read about Keynes. yeah i cherry picked a few highlights, get over it. Keynes has a long and complicated history of economic theory some right, some wrong. the best of it boils down to this ..



"The General Theory argues that demand, not supply, is the key variable governing the overall level of economic activity"


there is a lot more to it than that .. but if there is demand for it, people will buy it and a company that can produce it will prosper. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

I like it, I like it, I like iiit. I say the inverse is true. The company will not prosper if the customer doesn't get their order.

There is a lot more to it than that. But if there is a demand for it . . . get it yourself. Labor.

I like it, I like it, I like iiit. I say the inverse is true. The company will not prosper if the customer doesn't get their order.

There is a lot more to it than that. But if there is a demand for it . . . get it yourself. Labor. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

if the customer doesn't get their order (or no one buys) the company goes out of business. Capitalism .. survival of the fittest

if the customer doesn't get their order (or no one buys) the company goes out of business. Capitalism .. survival of the fittest Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

What is quantitative easing?

Buy stock in toilet paper and hand sanitizer. And buy guns. Originally Posted by Clay Media

i agree.. thats the only common sense post I've seen from you.