Right. "Normal" masks being worn are basically useless. The better edict is just staying at home if you are sick. Originally Posted by gnadfly
I think that is the big problem. While masks may limit how far the virus spreads from a person, it doesn't stop it from being spread. The " if you just wear a mask " crowd thinks they are more effective than they really are, which means wearing masks really hasn't slowed the spread.Correct. The "normal" masks people are using aren't stopping the spread. If they did, we'd be over this. I just takes one sick person going out even with a mask to infect hundreds, if not thousands. The lockdowns and self quarantines aren't working either.
As case counts went up more people wear a mask, but the numbers keep going up. Plus anytime I see the way people wear masks at least 50% don't wear them right. Plus they wear them too long, are careless in removal, and thus the masks do zero good for too many. Originally Posted by farmstud60
Some of these Trumper's are brain dead.I've thrown everything at them except the kitchen sink. A Kansas study where the rate of infection increased by 100% in counties without a mask mandate while it remained level in counties with one. A study of health care workers during SARS and early on during Covid (before they figured out you'd be loony to treat people with the virus without a mask) showing a 95% reduction in infection with N95 masks and 65% reduction with regular masks. A study where uninfected laboratory rats were separated from rats infected with covid by a partition made of mask fabric, while a fan blew air towards the uninfected rats. And info on the how masks work, that the Covid virion doesn't travel by itself but rather attached to water vapor and other material. And for smaller particles the mask doesn't work like a mechanical filter, but rather electrostatic forces cause the particles to attach to the mask fibers, and diffusion draws the virus off the particles and onto the fabric.
Trump can make any wild and unfounded bullshit pronouncement and they accept it as Gospel.
Valid and credentialed people can make a sane studied observation and be dismissed out of hand.
Usually accompanied by their dribble of they are Left,Dem,RINO,Media,Deep State,etc.
They disparage masks,distancing,testing,etc.
They get Everything they need from Trump. Originally Posted by sportfisherman
Some of these Trumper's are brain dead.Oh yeah, you question everything.
Trump can make any wild and unfounded bullshit pronouncement and they accept it as Gospel.
Valid and credentialed people can make a sane studied observation and be dismissed out of hand.
Usually accompanied by their dribble of they are Left,Dem,RINO,Media,Deep State,etc.
They disparage masks,distancing,testing,etc.
They get Everything they need from Trump. Originally Posted by sportfisherman
I've thrown everything at them except the kitchen sink. A Kansas study where the rate of infection increased by 100% in counties without a mask mandate while it remained level in counties with one. A study of health care workers during SARS and early on during Covid (before they figured out you'd be loony to treat people with the virus without a mask) showing a 95% reduction in infection with N95 masks and 65% reduction with regular masks. A study where uninfected laboratory rats were separated from rats infected with covid by a partition made of mask fabric, while a fan blew air towards the uninfected rats. And info on the how masks work, that the Covid virion doesn't travel by itself but rather attached to water vapor and other material. And for smaller particles the mask doesn't work like a mechanical filter, but rather electrostatic forces cause the particles to attach to the mask fibers, and diffusion draws the virus off the particles and onto the fabric.Agreed. No matter how many facts are put out there concerning the effectiveness of wearing masks, most Trump supporters do not seem to believe them.
It's fruitless. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Originally Posted by Tiny
Agreed. No matter how many facts are put out there concerning the effectiveness of wearing masks, most Trump supporters do not seem to believe them.So what are you breathing?
I wear a cloth mask. When I breathe, and I breathe hard while at the gym, no air escapes from the sides. I can blow into the mask with all my force and I can feel no air coming through the mask. I would agree that something could make it through the mask but it certainly would not travel as far as if I was not wearing a mask. And when at the gym I try to stay as far away from other as possible. And I use hand sanitizer frequently while there. Rather easy to follow safety rules.
Masks are not perfect. As you said, they are about 65% effective. But I do believe that if the recommended safety precautions are followed, less people will be infected. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX