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Updated Infection Fatality Ratios for Covid from Dr. John Ioannidis at Stanford University:

Age, Survival Rate
0-19, 99.997%
20-29, 99.986%
30-39, 99.97%
40-49, 99.92%
50-59, 99.73%
60-69, 99.4%
70+ (All) 94.5%
70+ (non-inst.) 97.6%


But let's make sure we jab all those kids...
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Dr Peter McCullough – “The failed mass Covid-19 vaccination programme will go down as one of the most deadly in history”

Israel was one of the first countries to mass vaccinate its population under an agreement with Pfizer.

Eighty percent of adults are fully vaccinated there, yet Covid-19 cases and serious hospitalisations have risen 20-fold since early July with more than 80% of new cases reported by the Israeli Health Ministry among vaccinated individuals.

In the United Kingdom, more than three-quarters of the adult population (76 percent) have received two doses of a Covid-19 injection and almost 90 percent of adults have received at least one dose. Yet, the number of Covid-19 patients hospitalised has soared sevenfold since early June this year.

The most recent U.K. report on “variants of concern” published by Public Health England revealed that 58% of Covid-19 deaths are among the fully vaccinated, with that number rising to 67% when including those who had received a single dose of a Covid-19 injection.

That data, McCullough said, “is basically showing that the vaccines are failing.”

Covid-19, no matter what the variant, is easily treatable at home with simple, available drugs, according to McCullough, who has stated that “about 88 percent of hospitalisations and deaths can be avoided” with early treatment.
  • Tiny
  • 08-30-2021, 11:13 AM
Dr Peter McCullough – “The failed mass Covid-19 vaccination programme will go down as one of the most deadly in history”

Israel was one of the first countries to mass vaccinate its population under an agreement with Pfizer.

Eighty percent of adults are fully vaccinated there, yet Covid-19 cases and serious hospitalisations have risen 20-fold since early July with more than 80% of new cases reported by the Israeli Health Ministry among vaccinated individuals.

In the United Kingdom, more than three-quarters of the adult population (76 percent) have received two doses of a Covid-19 injection and almost 90 percent of adults have received at least one dose. Yet, the number of Covid-19 patients hospitalised has soared sevenfold since early June this year.

The most recent U.K. report on “variants of concern” published by Public Health England revealed that 58% of Covid-19 deaths are among the fully vaccinated, with that number rising to 67% when including those who had received a single dose of a Covid-19 injection.

That data, McCullough said, “is basically showing that the vaccines are failing.”

Covid-19, no matter what the variant, is easily treatable at home with simple, available drugs, according to McCullough, who has stated that “about 88 percent of hospitalisations and deaths can be avoided” with early treatment. Originally Posted by bambino
Look at current hospitalizations and deaths compared to previous waves. Israel surpassed its previous peak infection level from a few months ago but deaths are running at less than 50% of what they were. UK deaths per day peaked around 1200 per day last winter and are currently running 110 per day, a huge decrease. Infections are running around 35,000 per day, compared to 56,000 in January, a much smaller decrease.

The vaccines reduced deaths to "0" in Israel and to very low levels in the United Kingdom. Now because of declining immunity levels and the Delta variant they're increasing. But still the case fatality is much lower because of the vaccines. The solution is booster shots, preferably using vaccines formulated to work against the variants.
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The solution is booster shots, preferably using vaccines formulated to work against the variants. Originally Posted by Tiny
Another sucker drinks the koolaid.. lol
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  • 08-30-2021, 11:28 AM
Updated Infection Fatality Ratios for Covid from Dr. John Ioannidis at Stanford University:

Age, Survival Rate
0-19, 99.997%
20-29, 99.986%
30-39, 99.97%
40-49, 99.92%
50-59, 99.73%
60-69, 99.4%
70+ (All) 94.5%
70+ (non-inst.) 97.6%


But let's make sure we jab all those kids... Originally Posted by texassapper
It's looking like everyone who doesn't get vaccinated is going to get the disease. So say no one got vaccinated, which I think you'd approve of, since you believe the vaccine is deadlier than the disease. If that had happened, then based on the numbers in your table, 2 million Americans aged 70+ would die of the disease. Another 230,000 aged 60 to 69 would die of it.

As to the kids, and you and everyone else, that should be a personal decision. If my kid were above the age of 12 and were around grandparents, I'd want him to get it. What if he were under 12? I'd wait for more data.

Ioannidis by the way has underestimated infection fatality rates in the past and may have an agenda. Initially he was estimating the infection fatality rate of the USA should be 0.125%. Well, about 0.2% of the population has died of COVID so far. Peru, which has only had crappy ass vaccines like Sinopharm, has seen 0.6% of its population died from COVID.
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So say no one got vaccinated, which I think you'd approve of, since you believe the vaccine is deadlier than the disease. Originally Posted by Tiny
You're wrong. I have never written that no-one should get the jab... so the rest of what you have to write is worthless effort.
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Look at current hospitalizations and deaths compared to previous waves. Israel surpassed its previous peak infection level from a few months ago but deaths are running at less than 50% of what they were. UK deaths per day peaked around 1200 per day last winter and are currently running 110 per day, a huge decrease. Infections are running around 35,000 per day, compared to 56,000 in January, a much smaller decrease.

The vaccines reduced deaths to "0" in Israel and to very low levels in the United Kingdom. Now because of declining immunity levels and the Delta variant they're increasing. But still the case fatality is much lower because of the vaccines. The solution is booster shots, preferably using vaccines formulated to work against the variants. Originally Posted by Tiny
IOW it appears that the "solution" is to cede all of the rights we fought so hard for the last 250 years in this country. I thought the Patriot Act was the biggest attack on our right to be "left the fuck alone" to live our lives as we see fit, but these new "emergency powers" that now look to be permanent, (well some of us have said this would happen from the beginning) are going to go down as the beginning of the end of our freedoms as we now know them.

The problem that is MUCH bigger than COVID is that fact that Government officials all over the fucking world are giddy with their newfound power and they are going to do EVERYTHING in their power to keep it.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I am a LOT more worried about losing my "way of life" to COVID than I am in actually losing my life to this rather impotent virus that only seems to kill the old and the weak.

It will be interesting that if history books are still able to be written in any kind of honest way fifty years in the future, historians will be pointing out how the entire world gave up all their rights to self determination in the 2020's without a single shot being fired.
  • Tiny
  • 08-30-2021, 12:36 PM
IOW it appears that the "solution" is to cede all of the rights we fought so hard for the last 250 years in this country. I thought the Patriot Act was the biggest attack on our right to be "left the fuck alone" to live our lives as we see fit, but these new "emergency powers" that now look to be permanent, (well some of us have said this would happen from the beginning) are going to go down as the beginning of the end of our freedoms as we now know them.

The problem that is MUCH bigger than COVID is that fact that Government officials all over the fucking world are giddy with their newfound power and they are going to do EVERYTHING in their power to keep it.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I am a LOT more worried about losing my "way of life" to COVID than I am in actually losing my life to this rather impotent virus that only seems to kill the old and the weak.

It will be interesting that if history books are still able to be written in any kind of honest way fifty years in the future, historians will be pointing out how the entire world gave up all their rights to self determination in the 2020's without a single shot being fired. Originally Posted by GaGambler
IOW? Exactly the opposite. A very smart low-tax/small-government activist I know was pushing hard for people to voluntarily wear masks back around March of 2020. You couldn't necessarily just go out and buy them then, you had to make them. This was when the CDC recommended against masks for the general public. He lives in a blue state, as blue as you can get. His reasoning was that if the pandemic got out of control, if people started piling up in hospitals, there would be lockdowns, more government spending, higher taxes, and more government control of peoples' lives. He was right. Voluntarily getting vaccinated and using good judgement about social distancing, masks, etc. is the best way to deny politicians the excuse to implement lockdowns and the like. And to keep hospitals from overflowing.
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IOW? Exactly the opposite. A very smart low-tax/small-government activist I know was pushing hard for people to voluntarily....blah, Originally Posted by Tiny
You know a guy... lol.

What does that have to do with the manner in which the Federal govt. is acting? What does that have to do with masks, jabs, and distancing being mandated by private companies... people can get the flu too... wed on't mandate that job, what about any other communicable disease? Smoking, over eating? Where is the line to be drawn?

You: Where ever the govt. decides it should be today.
Me: Your rights end at the beginning of my nose.
  • Tiny
  • 08-30-2021, 12:52 PM
You know a guy... lol.

What does that have to do with the manner in which the Federal govt. is acting? What does that have to do with masks, jabs, and distancing being mandated by private companies... people can get the flu too... wed on't mandate that job, what about any other communicable disease? Smoking, over eating? Where is the line to be drawn?

You: Where ever the govt. decides it should be today.
Me: Your rights end at the beginning of my nose. Originally Posted by texassapper
Translation: You want government to mandate to private companies that they can't require masks, jabs, and distancing.
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Translation: You want government to mandate to private companies that they can't require masks, jabs, and distancing. Originally Posted by Tiny
No. A Federal Government to adhere to the Constitution. Period.