How the corrupt mainstream media work together to spread lies

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Here is an excellent thread here, showing how the corrupt mainstream media spread lies. Important to note that this info op began with the Washington Post attempting to distract from Sotomayor's embarrassing incompetence on display during oral arguments by smearing Gorsuch on masks.

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/st...60962763968515

An explosive story from @NPR and @NinaTotenberg about supposed high drama around masking at the Supreme Court imploded today.

I want to take you through how misinformation like this gets mainstreamed by the corporate press and others.

First, some background. @NPR reporter @NinaTotenberg reported that tensions were high at SCOTUS, particularly because Justice Gorsuch had supposedly refused a request from Chief Justice Roberts to put on a mask to help protect Justice Sotomayor.

But then the story started unraveling. First Sotomayor and Gorsuch put out a statement disputing some aspects of the reporting/narrative.

Then, this afternoon, Chief Justice Roberts went on the record to say the masking story was bogus.



But before that denial, the original NPR story was quickly picked up across Twitter and other outlets. In particular, broadcast outlets gave the story plenty of airtime. Here we have the story recycled by both @CNBC and @MSNBC

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/st...149346310?s=20

As ever, @MSNBC really led the charge. On his show list night,
@chrislhayes repeated the now-debunked allegations verbatim, talking up how big this story was if it could leak from the air-tight chamber of SCOTUS.

Here’s the transcript:

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/st...268803072?s=20

Lots of their other hosts and talking heads joined in. Here’s
@mehdirhasan and @KatiePhang promoting a (now-corrected, at least) tweet from @mjs_DC that got a lot of traction on the erroneous reporting.

And resident disinformation pusher @kylegriffin1 shared the story, too.

https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/st...499051017?s=20

and the thread goes on and on - you can read more at Twitter by following one of the links. But it concludes:

Many of these people and outlets, you’ll notice, have a professed concern with misinformation. And yet here they are acting as conduits if not outright creators of politically motivated disinformation to smear their opponents.

From Russiagate to Covington Catholic and beyond, we see so many of these stories: they *feel* right to reporters/outlets, and so they get repeated, but then they prove to be false. And confidence in the media erodes from under the feet of folks who’ll shrug this thing off.

But of course, this is the favored variety of misinformation. We won’t see retractions or apologies or Twitter warnings on this content. And eventually, the cycle will repeat, and the collective faith in the media will grind down even lower.
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And very liberal Glenn Greenwald calls out the corrupt media - his exact quote:

Liberal editors like @ClaraJeffery spent the day re-tweeting supporting for the NPR story even after Sotomayor and Gorsuch jointly debunked it.

Then, when Roberts denied it, she and they ignored that, just moved to other things.

However much you hate the media, it's not enough.
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The MSM is just like Biden. They both refuse to acknowledge - let alone learn from - their mistakes.
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The MSM is just like Biden. They both refuse to acknowledge - let alone learn from - their mistakes. Originally Posted by lustylad
Agreed. And that is why the mainstream media becomes more hated and less trusted by the day
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NPR published an article claiming "podcasts are becoming influential sources of misinformation" literally the same week the Supreme Court issued a statement debunking this fake news story from NPR.

Nearly everything the mainstream media tell you is a lie.
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Jonathon Turley weighs in - reading some of this shows just how biased and deranged to mainstream media is

Nina Totenberg slammed Kelly McBride, the ombudsman for National Public Radio (NPR), for concluding that she should rewrite her story accusing Neil Gorsuch of refusing to wear a mask to protect his colleague, Sonia Sotomayor. McBride did not suggest a correction but merely a “clarification.” Totenberg responded to The Daily Beast and declared that McBride “can write any goddamn thing she wants, whether or not I think it’s true.” Now, days after rare public denials by all three referenced justices, many in the media who denounced Gorsuch have followed suit. They also refuse to clarify or address their own attacks on the justice in light of the denials from the Court. Notably, Gorsuch was the subject of another false story connected to the same oral argument. Many also did not correct that reporting. (For full disclosure, I testified before the Senate in support of Gorsuch’s confirmation).


The philosopher Alexis de Tocqueville once said that “there is hardly a political question in the United States which does not sooner or later turn into a judicial one.” That is certainly the case with the Supreme Court this month. After striking down the Biden vaccine mandate for workplaces, the Court found itself embroiled in the raging question over masks in the workplace after the NPR story.

Nevertheless, Totenberg pounced at the chance to (again) pummel Gorsuch:

“Chief Justice John Roberts, understanding that, in some form asked the other justices to mask up. They all did. Except Gorsuch, who, as it happens, sits next to Sotomayor on the bench. His continued refusal since then has also meant that Sotomayor has not attended the justices’ weekly conference in person, joining instead by telephone.”

It did not matter that Totenberg had previously attacked Gorsuch. The media showed the same hair-triggered tendency with previously debunked stories.

Gorsuch did appear in the last argument without a mask. Ironically, if he had simply worn the commonly used cloth mask, there would have been no outcry even though the masks do not appear to block these variants and even CNN’s experts are calling the cloth masks “little more than facial decorations.”

It is also not clear that Sotomayor even knew whether anyone or everyone would wear masks at the argument. She had previously stated an intention to participate remotely. Given the lack of protection from most masks (including reused or contaminated N95 masks), Sotomayor likely felt the risk was not worth taking. Yet, Totenberg states as a fact that Gorsuch’s “continued refusal since then has … meant that Sotomayor has not attended the justices’ weekly conference in person, joining instead by telephone.”

None of this mattered as the media ran with the story of Gorsuch forcing Sotomayor to stay virtual and refusing to yield to Roberts’ alleged encouragement to wear a mask.

MSNBC’s Nicole Wallace declared Gorsuch guilty of “anti-mask insanity.” Her colleague Joy Reid accused Gorsuch of virtually standing Sotomayor up in front of a COVID firing squad for his personal enjoyment. Reid declared that Gorsuch was “risking the life of your colleague” and was a “rotten co-worker,” “dangerous to be near in a pandemic,” and “tonight’s absolute worst.” Reid even declared on the air that Gorsuch “loves COVID — which makes him the perfect Republican”.

Rolling Stone ran with the story “Neil Gorsuch Stands Up for His Right to Endanger Sonia Sotomayor’s Health,” and added “the liberal Supreme Court justice is diabetic and didn’t want to sit next to justices who weren’t wearing masks. Her conservative colleague didn’t care.”

Former senator Claire McCaskill tweeted:

So glad I voted no on this jerk. What kind of guy does this? I could tell in my meeting with him that he thought he was better than everyone else, more important, smarter. Ugh. #Gorsuch

The Daily Kos declared

“it is hard to imagine a bigger shit. But we should not be surprised…Most Americans will find his selfishness incredible, but it is typical of his kind. One trait common to every conservative is a sociopathic lack of empathy.”

Elie Mystal, who has written for Above the Law and the Nation, tweeted

Confirmation of what we all already knew. Whatever you think about masks, Gorsuch, who sits next to Sotomayor at work, just decided to be a dick to a colleague.

Then came the denial of all three justices.

Chief Justice John Roberts also issued a statement that it was false, as claimed, that he asked any of his colleagues to wear masks on the bench. Indeed, previously the justices did not wear masks during arguments. Moreover, Gorsuch is routinely shown wearing a mask around the courthouse.

The joint statement of the two justices insists that Totenberg’s account is entirely false:

“Reporting that Justice Sotomayor asked Justice Gorsuch to wear a mask surprised us. It is false. While we may sometimes disagree about the law, we are warm colleagues and friends.”



Notably, these are three jurists who interpret the Constitution, statutes, treaties, and agreements for a living. All three read the Totenberg report and felt compelled to issue rare public statements to refute the story.

NPR’s ombudsman found the story in need of clarification and their interpretation of the story was shared by everyone who heard the report (though Fox News’ Shannon Bream quickly and correctly challenged the report with her own sources denying the story). They understood NPR as saying that Gorsuch refused to wear a mask after Roberts asked all of his colleagues to do so to protect Sotomayor. That interpretation was readily apparent by the ragefest on cable news and the Internet as media figures lined up to denounce Gorsuch as a type of viral homicidal maniac.

In response to the justices, Totenberg insisted that she never said that Gorsuch was directly asked by Roberts to wear a mask and did not say that he rebuffed a request from Sotomayor. However, Totenberg pushed the false narrative of the story as it went viral. Totenberg tweeted the following description of her story: “Gorsuch refuses to mask up to protect Sotomayor.”

Strangely, Totenberg seemed to argue that her much promoted piece was really not much news at all. Roberts may not have asked anyone to wear masks and Sotomayor’s remote participation may have had nothing to do with Gorsuch. Indeed, even if Gorsuch wore the common cloth mask, it would not, according to various studies, afford her real protection against the variant. The problem is how virtually everyone understood her story as evidenced by the coverage.

NPR stood by the story even though its own ombudsman suggested that it should be clarified. Totenberg immediately ran with the NPR support and backhanded the ombudsman:

NPR reporter David Gura went even further and suggested that the justices might simply be lying and we should not take their account over that of Nina Totenberg. Gura tweeted “I [sic] surprised at how many Supreme Court correspondents I admire are passing along a statement from two justices that is at best false without any context whatsoever.”

Totenberg went on to say that, as a journalist, she did not even read the views of NPR’s own ombudsman review: “I haven’t even looked at it, and I don’t care to look at it because I report to the news division, she does not report to the news division.”

The NPR story is the latest example of rage politics and how the underlying truth is immaterial to the narrative.

I wrote earlier that it really does not matter that the story was false or misleading. As expected, the media simply moved on without admitting errors. It is a pattern that we have seen repeatedly. We have discussed the false reporting in controversies ranging from the Lafayette Park protests to the Nicholas Sandmann controversy to the Russian collusion scandal to cases like the Rittenhouse trial.

We are left with a Zen-like “tree-falling-in-the-forest” paradox: it is not fake news if the news will not admit to faking it. That fact is that people like an ombudsman can “write any goddamn thing” they want but, if it is not reported, it matters little. Gorsuch “loves Covid” and wants to kill a liberal colleague . . . whether he does or not.

https://jonathanturley.org/2022/01/2...gorsuch-story/
... And when they're caught - they double-down.

They need to retract this in short order!
NPR does... Not the Justices.

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Jonathon Turley is a known republican hack advocate. While the ideas of constitutional law are established, ppl like Turkey have demonstrated the ability to align interpretation to political affiliation. Is that an objective person or does their opinion drift like political winds?https://www.thenation.com/article/ar...ent-hypocrisy/
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Jonathon Turley is a known republican hack advocate. Originally Posted by eyecu2
Wrong.

Mr. Turley is a civil libertarian and a skeptic of executive power who also has a history of sometimes making arguments that please Republicans and irritate Democrats — while emphasizing that he personally agrees with liberals on policy matters.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/u...an-turley.html
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Here's a little nugget: your lord and savior Trump is quoted as saying,

"When you report fake news- you're the enemy of the people". Nov 13, 2018.

Why is it that all the right-wing news agencies get a pass on reporting falsities about the news, as "opinion pieces", but when those on the left report anything that is either opinion, or slanting that the Republicans are in the wrong, - you all decide that its all fake. I laugh at how you hypocrites decide about unproven allegations of voting fraud, or conclusions of reports that you haven't read, are true. From Ivermectin, HQL, or January 6th, to the Durham report .....as if the Durham report is valid, but that the Mueller report was unfair or false. It's literally the decision that you right-wingers are daftly afraid to look at how media sources on the right have done the same thing you are accusing mainstream of doing. EXCEPT for this; fact checking, and sending out patently false information is what got Rogan, OANN, Bongino and people like MTG and others shut off of media. Trump did get one thing right; "Fake news is the enemy of the people."

When there is proof of false information being spread, responsible parties are taken off of platforms. The fact that you on the right have to continue to create new platforms that won't/ don't enforce any of those same constructs is simply changing the rules till they fit your narrative. Shameful and Bigly Sad.
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Wrong.

Mr. Turley is a civil libertarian and a skeptic of executive power who also has a history of sometimes making arguments that please Republicans and irritate Democrats — while emphasizing that he personally agrees with liberals on policy matters.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/u...an-turley.html Originally Posted by berryberry
Well, this link is behind a pay-wall, so I'm guessing that it's supporting your narrative, but I have watched his testimony and think he's come to MANY conclusions that are biased towards right-wingers thinking. I don't think he's stupid,- just biased and as such, is not really an advocate for interpretive meaning for the constitution. It's why I like the idea of a panel of judges vs. one advocate judge. The balancing out of bias is in jeopardy in every court out there. It would be nice to have interpretation of the law without the concern of that.
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Here's a little nugget: your lord and savior Trump is quoted as saying,

"When you report fake news- you're the enemy of the people". Nov 13, 2018.

Why is it that all the right-wing news agencies get a pass on reporting falsities about the news, as "opinion pieces", but when those on the left report anything that is either opinion, or slanting that the Republicans are in the wrong, - you all decide that its all fake. I laugh at how you hypocrites decide about unproven allegations of voting fraud, or conclusions of reports that you haven't read, are true. From Ivermectin, HQL, or January 6th, to the Durham report .....as if the Durham report is valid, but that the Mueller report was unfair or false. It's literally the decision that you right-wingers are daftly afraid to look at how media sources on the right have done the same thing you are accusing mainstream of doing. EXCEPT for this; fact checking, and sending out patently false information is what got Rogan, OANN, Bongino and people like MTG and others shut off of media. Trump did get one thing right; "Fake news is the enemy of the people."

When there is proof of false information being spread, responsible parties are taken off of platforms. The fact that you on the right have to continue to create new platforms that won't/ don't enforce any of those same constructs is simply changing the rules till they fit your narrative. Shameful and Bigly Sad. Originally Posted by eyecu2
This thread is about How the corrupt mainstream media work together to spread lies. Instead of trying to change the subject like you are, do you have any comments about how NPR spread this blatantly false story about the Supreme Court Justices and wearing masks.
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Well, this link is behind a pay-wall, so I'm guessing that it's supporting your narrative, but I have watched his testimony and think he's come to MANY conclusions that are biased towards right-wingers thinking. Originally Posted by eyecu2

And yet he is a liberal Democrat- not a Republican hack as you claim. Here try this one:

The Washington Post referred to Turley as a “liberal Democrat who voted for Clinton in 1992 and Ralph Nader in 1996

https://heavy.com/news/2019/12/jonathan-turley/
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This thread is about How the corrupt mainstream media work together to spread lies. Instead of trying to change the subject like you are, do you have any comments about how NPR spread this blatantly false story about the Supreme Court Justices and wearing masks. Originally Posted by berryberry

The title of this is about mainstream media. I addressed it and each part of my commentary with my perspective. I was not trying to derail it as you assert. But I noticed that you deflect and accuse people of doing things on post that you do Berry, when they prove a point you don't like, you accuse and move the goal posts... Oh well.
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The title of this is about mainstream media. I addressed it and each part of my commentary with my perspective. I was not trying to derail it as you assert. But I noticed that you deflect and accuse people of doing things on post that you do Berry, when they prove a point you don't like, you accuse and move the goal posts... Oh well. Originally Posted by eyecu2
First the title is "How the corrupt mainstream media work together to spread lies" and the post specifically talked about NPR and the lies spread about Gorsuch

I am happy to debate you on your false claims regarding "right wing media" - but start your own thread about it. And for the record, there is no "right wing media" that people would classify as "mainstream media"