5 year felony for Trump ?

VitaMan's Avatar
That is a prospective sentence for taking classified national security documents.

Trump did just that.

"the largest scale violation of the Presidential Records Act since its enactment."
bambino's Avatar
HedonistForever's Avatar
That is a prospective sentence for taking classified national security documents.

Trump did just that.

"the largest scale violation of the Presidential Records Act since its enactment." Originally Posted by VitaMan

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-p...nces-archives/


Anne Weismann, a lawyer who represented watchdog groups that have sued Trump over violations of the Presidential Records Act, told CBS News that the former president "clearly violated" the Presidential Records Act in "multiple ways," including by ripping up records.


But "the real problem is there's absolutely no enforcement mechanism in the Presidential Record Act and there's no administrative enforcement provision," she said.



Weismann, though, identified two criminal laws that Trump may have violated by destroying White House records. The first law states anyone who "willfully injures or commits any depredation against any property of the United States" faces a fine or up to one year imprisonment if convicted. The second states anyone who "willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates or destroys … any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited … in any public office" is subject to a fine or up to three years in prison if convicted.


federal courts that have heard disputes over possible violations of the Presidential Records Act while Trump was in office have said there is no role for the courts to play in overseeing day-to-day compliance with that law.


So, where did you come up with 5 years since you never post your source of dis-information. Madcow tell you that or was it Joy Reid?
VitaMan's Avatar
I wouldn't get so worked up about sentencing guidelines. No attorney general will go ahead with a prosection.

The important thing to take away from this and Trump statements this week is that he is no longer a viable presidential candidate.

Hope the Republicans will come up with a good candidate in 2024. It looks like the world will need it, and a good candidate from the Democratic party also.
HedonistForever's Avatar
I wouldn't get so worked up about sentencing guidelines. No attorney general will go ahead with a prosection.

The important thing to take away from this and Trump statements this week is that he is no longer a viable presidential candidate.

Hope the Republicans will come up with a good candidate in 2024. It looks like the world will need it, and a good candidate from the Democratic party also. Originally Posted by VitaMan


Maybe the only way Trump isn't a viable candidate is if the 14th amendment is used against him and is successful and that is no sure bet.


https://www.salon.com/2022/01/07/dem...ffice-in-2024/


Democrats quietly consider using 14th Amendment to prevent Trump from running for office in 2024



Congressional Democrats are eyeing a little-known constitutional mechanism to prevent former President Donald Trump from running for office again, citing his responsibility for the Jan. 6 Capitol riot and subsequent attacks on American democracy.


According to a new report in The Hill, at least a dozen Democratic lawmakers have been quietly speaking, both publicly and privately, about whether or not it would be possible to use Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to permanently ban Trump — or anyone else who participated in the planning or execution of the Jan. 6 Capitol attack — from seeking elected office in the future. The post-Civil War clause bars anyone who has engaged in "insurrection or rebellion" against the United States from seeking public office.


The theory gained credence in the days following the Capitol riot, but quickly fell by the wayside with the hope that Trump would eventually accept his election loss and disavow the violence of Jan. 6. With the one-year anniversary of the attacks now passed, and Trump's false claims of a "stolen" election still at a fever pitch, it appears the idea is once again being discussed on Capitol Hill.
"If anything, the idea has waxed and waned," said Laurence Tribe, a constitutional expert at Harvard Law School who has spoken previously about the 14th Amendment. "I hear it being raised with considerable frequency these days both by media commentators and by members of Congress and their staffs, some of whom have sought my advice on how to implement Section 3."



He shared with The Hill the names of several lawmakers who have reached out in recent weeks for counsel on gaming out exactly how such a controversial tactic might be used. Those include Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), a member of the House select committee investigating Jan. 6; Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee; and Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., who told the outlet: "I continue to explore all legal paths to ensure that the people who tried to subvert our democracy are not in charge of it."
"The point is that the constitutional purpose is clear, to keep people exactly like Donald Trump and other traitors to the union from holding public office," he told ABC News, adding that he planned to conduct "more research" on the matter before pursuing it.


It's unclear exactly how the implementation of such a provision might work — it would likely be the first time in well over a century that Section 3 has been discussed in Congress, after the body waived enforcement of the clause for Confederate officials and some Ku Klux Klan members as a way to promote national unity during the Reconstruction era.
Constitutional scholars are split over how execution of the rule would work, with one group arguing that a simple majority vote in both chambers of Congress that found Trump guilty of fomenting the insurrection would be enough to bar him from holding future public office.



Others, including Tribe, say that a "neutral" fact-finding body would have to determine whether Trump officially engaged in an "insurrection" or "rebellion" — a task for either a Congressional panel or federal court.


Or a majority of Republicans ( I don't get a vote since I am not a registered Republican ) pick someone else as the nominee. Only two ways I know of to stop him from being the nominee in 2024.
bambino's Avatar
President Trump gave a fantastic speech this evening.

It felt a lot like a State of the Union address...

He said we were going to kick the Biden crime family out of the White House in 2024 OR SOONER.

He said he would tell us one day what he and Putin talked about.

He said "In summation and closing as your President...," with a methodical pause as the crowd went wild.

There is an excitement and fresh air among the patriot community that I honestly haven't felt in quite awhile.

I certainly don't have all the answers and can't say what will happen, but I'm trusting God and praying for big things! ��

- TippyTopPatriot

Subscribe: @TippyTopPatriot
bambino's Avatar
HedonistForever's Avatar
Speaking of State of the Union, have you heard that after Biden speaks, Rashida Tlaib, Ms. Palestine 2022, will give a "rebuttal" to the President and leader of her party. Can't imagine that anything she will say will help unify Democrats in the mid-terms. After all, what can she say other than how disappointed she is in her President?


I hope she throws in the line about emptying all prisons in this country.
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Why?
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
Why? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider



think about it .. who gives a "rebuttal" to their own party? when did that ever happen?
matchingmole's Avatar
President Trump gave a fantastic speech this evening.

It felt a lot like a State of the Union address...

He said we were going to kick the Biden crime family out of the White House in 2024 OR SOONER.

He said he would tell us one day what he and Putin talked about.

He said "In summation and closing as your President...," with a methodical pause as the crowd went wild.

There is an excitement and fresh air among the patriot community that I honestly haven't felt in quite awhile.

I certainly don't have all the answers and can't say what will happen, but I'm trusting Satan and praying for Mexico to p-aaaay for the churros! ��

- TippyTopPatriot

Subscribe: @Crappy-riot Originally Posted by bambino



Trump is a TRAITOR.

Trump Loves Putin.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
Trump is a TRAITOR.

Trump Loves Putin. Originally Posted by vegasmatt



if you say so
LexusLover's Avatar
I wouldn't get so worked up about sentencing guidelines.

The important thing to take away from this and Trump statements this week is that he is no longer a viable presidential candidate.
Originally Posted by VitaMan
So you believe he will win in 2024! So "Trump" up some bullshit?

Given the PROVEN track record of the Anti-Trump lunatics it is highly appropriate that he, or anyone on his behalf, retain possession of documents to protect them from destruction and tampering ... as has been done over the past almost SEVEN YEARS!

Wasn't that what HillariousNoMore was doing .... keeping government documents at her residence to protect them?

And you voted for her didn't you?
LexusLover's Avatar
if you say so Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Trump = effective anti-aircraft & anti-amored vehicle weapons.
Bitten = blankets and now ineffective "sanctions" POST-INVASION.

Like Bitten's claims about the effectiveness of VACCINES ...

..... he stated "HIS" sanctions would PREVENT a Putin Invasion of Ukraine!

And he actually voted for the Bitten-Kumola "team"!!!!



Speaking of TRAITORS! And now Putin expecting the same lameass BS with Ukraine!