question for providers

this is bonafied offer that i made to a provider i corresponded with last year but never hooked up with and just last week we started corresponding again. she is out of state and is not the one i mentioned in my last post. she also does not use this board so here is the offer. all expenses paid for a seven day cruise including airfare plus $4000 fee for the week. i feel it is more then generious and she is stongly considering it. looking forward to any responses. you may ask why. when i saw her pics last year i was intrigued. then we have been talking alot in the last week and i'am further intrigued. as i have told everyone i,am 62 in excellent health and can afford to do this. also you never know the cards that you are dealt so i'am going for it.
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Interesting topic Tommy. You have never seen the provider before? What if you don't click, you're stuck for week with this person and out $4K. Whatever you do, don't prepay the entire amount!

As far as pricing goes, $4K may be very generous or very low depending on the provider. I have always wondered about this.

Provider A, for example, may only make $2.5 K on an average work week so why not make $4k on a great vacation with a nice guy.

Provider B may feel her donation for an overnight is $2K, so why give you 7 days at $4K. She may feel this is work for her, not vacation, and should be paid appropriately for her time.

Provider C might be a total lush and has never been out of the country. Free drinks, white sandy beaches and the Tommy love-machine included, you might be overpaying at $4K.

Hope it works out. Let us know.
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Can you please restate the question??
Thanks.
Id go if I had previous interaction with the client..and as long as it isn't to Aruba..
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I would be carefull about a week with someone i have never met or been with a ship can get pretty small if you dont click
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Tommy,

I note that your question was to the providers and although a bit confusing, it seems that you are asking them how they feel about that fee for a week's sun and fun.

Are you also interested in any of the guys' experiences (both in terms of fees and actual experience) on these types of longer dates or just interested in the ladies' take?
Id go if I had previous interaction with the client..and as long as it isn't to Aruba.. Originally Posted by anita germane
Oh no Anita. Why did you have to mention Aruba?

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=279815
i don't know if that would be a wise decision bc of the length of time, international destination (so your really stuck depending upon the island & how many flights they have heading to the states per day), and you two have never met
Oh no Anita. Why did you have to mention Aruba?

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=279815 Originally Posted by mwebber
oh dear..i'm sorry...
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Nita why not Aruba?
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  • 08-30-2011, 02:02 PM
Nita why not Aruba? Originally Posted by nascar88888
Aruba seems to have gotten a bit of a bad reputation in recent years, what with all the disappearances there.

The place is also infested with muppets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-WAh...eature=related
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Tommy,

I note that your question was to the providers and although a bit confusing, it seems that you are asking them how they feel about that fee for a week's sun and fun.

Are you also interested in any of the guys' experiences (both in terms of fees and actual experience) on these types of longer dates or just interested in the ladies' take? Originally Posted by Deepthinker
Quoting my own post .. hmm... don't know about that, except that I am referencing it to say that Tommy answered me in a PM to please reply as he is interested in the guys' experiences as well.

I do not think that it is a bad idea to go on an extended date, but I do think that a week on a cruise with someone who you have not met is a bit risky. I suppose that if it doesn't work out, and you are willing to accept that risk going in that you may be out all the cash with no hard feelings (kind of like when you loan money to a friend who you accept may never repay you), then the risk is not huge beyond that. After all, a cruise is not a canoe, so if it stays amiable and not bitter, you could probably make it through on a boat that size. If you are sharing the same room on the cruise with no separate rooms to retreat to....could make for a long trip if it goes sour. Personally, I would not do the cruise week with someone who I have not met. I must ask, is there some reason that before this elaborate trip , you wouldn't set up a shorter date with this lady? Do a dinner date so you can spend some time together both in and out of the bedroom to get a feel for how it might work. Even better, do a dinner date followed by an overnight date so you Really get to see each other at your best ... and worst. Then if you are compatible, go for it. I mean, unless you have to bust her out of prison or something to get her on the cruise, I see no reason to jump into that without some preliminaries.

All that being said as a precaution, Let me say that the extended date can be very rewarding. I know that some guys just want the quickie and don't get why a guy would want to wine and dine his lady. For those guys, I don't think any amount of explaining will help. Either you feel that way or you don't. I am much more of a GFE guy and it is hard to get more GFE than a few days in an exotic place together. Back when I was younger and had more energy, I did several of these dates. I have spent between 3 and 7 days with SPs in NYC, Vegas, Scottsdale,Portland, Alaska, Denver, Hawaii and probably some more that I am not recalling at the moment. I have been quite lucky in that several of them were , in fact, ladies that I was meeting for the first time. ( I am shocked as I write that that the ladies would actually be that brave).The reason I did not follow my own advice and meet them for an hour ahead of time is that all of them were from out of state (and I guess I was more adventurous than I am now that I am old and conservative). Many of those dates are my fondest hobby memories as it would be impossible to get the same intimacy on a one hour date as you can get spending 5 days together on an island or in a mountain top retreat. I can see how the pendulum could swing the other way though and the intense feelings could turn negative rather than positive. For me, this has happened once and once was definitely enough. (That's a whole story in and of itself). The rest of the dates have been very positive. If the opportunity arose , I have someone that I would like to take away right now on such a date , but opportunity is the problem.

As for the price, that can vary a lot and I think that mwebber was exactly right as to why that is. It is a matter of how much work and how much fun the lady views the time together. That is another reason why it makes sense to have a date ahead of time. If you get along very well, the price for an extended trip will usually come down. Although this is still the ladies' livelihood, they are certainly people too. Despite certain remarks about this being all about the money for them, I find that to not be true in many cases. Naturally, if a woman enjoys her time with a person, it will be less "work" than if she barely tolerates the person. She will be inclined to offer her time on an extended trip for less as well. I think the discount has the potential to be greater , the longer the trip and the nicer the location. For instance, I once took a lady from Phoenix to Hawaii for 5 days and she charged me her advertised rate that she typically used as her overnight rate. Why? She had never been to Hawaii. She wanted to go and I was paying the expenses, and we had seen each other several times for shorter trips. She knew we were good together and did not want to take advantage of me. Obviously, that is not a deal you can expect from someone who you have never met before. It is not a deal you can really expect from anyone, but it is a nice bonus when it happens.

I think that your offer of 4K seems like a very fair offer as long as the expectations are reasonable in return. Most ladies will understand that a lower per hour rate is expected as much of the time will be relaxation and low key enjoyment when it is only one guy she is seeing the whole time. That is assuming that you have not been hoarding a year's worth of viagra and trying to use it all on this one week for a new record. Personally, if a woman found it that much "work" to vacation with me that she charged full rate for the whole trip, I probably would never extend the invitation as I would be a bit insulted that she felt me buying her dinner and sipping drinks by the pool was the same hourly rate as her seeing 5 clients at home that day for the "usual activities". All the ladies may not agree, but they would likely be the ones i wouldn't be seeing. Hey , as I said about them being people-- so are we , so the feelings go both ways.

Don't know if that is at all helpful, but that is a portion of one guy's experience with the extended date -- before he became so old and feeble that he is now homebound with his Oxygen tanks, part time ventilator use, and senile dementia.......
Nita why not Aruba? Originally Posted by nascar88888
because of the muppets of course!! they are every where!!!
Wow what a jump! Hey you better live your life now before it's gone, DO IT UP!